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Old 08-07-2008, 09:55 AM
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I really like good stake at restaurantes, but a bit afraid of making it at home, because i dont really know how to spot it when its ready. it sound very simpleut it in the stove when its done/pink/rare.but how can I tell how many minutes i need?(i mean,my steak needs?)
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Old 08-07-2008, 09:57 AM
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it sounds easyut it in the oven until it is done.but how can i tell how many minutes my steak needs to be pink (that is how i like it)?i always have problem with that, i keep overcooking the stake.
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Old 08-07-2008, 10:11 AM
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Cham -

forget the minutes thing - those are guidelines only as cooking temps, thickness of cut, etc., play a much more important role.

I like the "pushie" method - open your thumb from your hand, not stretched out tight - just open. with your other hand index finger, poke the fleshy web between the back of the hand and the thumb - it's firm but a little "gooshy in the middle." oh - if you are really skinny, find a friend who.....

that's medium rare. poke the steak with your finger / blunt end of a wood spoon to judge. better to error on the too soon side - you can always put it back in for more. a little practice and it's an easy technique.
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Old 08-07-2008, 10:16 AM
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thanx for the answer.my hand is gonna be perfect for the purpose. not skinny at all.
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Or cheat and buy an instant read thermometer I just use the poke with my finger method though.
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Old 08-07-2008, 11:04 AM
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Dillbert makes a good point cham, i was a line cook and when i first started that is what my friend told me to do. Only i do mine by moving my thumb across my fingers but pushing on the same spot, opne hand is rare and when you get your thumb to little finger that is well done, just touch the tips as you go across.
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it sounds easyut it in the oven until it is done.but how can i tell how many minutes my steak needs to be pink (that is how i like it)?i always have problem with that, i keep overcooking the stake.
thanx.cham
You seem to like your meat in the medium-rare/medium range. Getting it right consistently has quite a bit to do with how thick your steaks are, and how you cook them. Very thin steaks, 300 gm and 20mm or less, should be cooked in a pan, and cooked very quickly. Very thick steaks, 500 gm and 30mm or more should be seared in a pan or in the broiler, then finished roasting in a 220C oven. Those in between should be cooked in a pan or under the broiler at a slightly more moderate heat than thinner steaks.

For steaks between 20 and 30mm, a good time to remember is two minutes. A room temperature beef steak will take about two minutes to sear in a hot pan. Preheat the pan on a medium-high flame, put around 1 tsp of oil in it, let the oil come to heat and add the seasoned steak. Allow it to cook exactly two minutes, then shake the pan to loosen the steak. If it won't slide, give it another 45 seconds and shake again. When the steak moves, that means it is seared and you can turn it over. If it won't release after the extra 45 seconds, turn it anyway. 3 minutes is plenty of time to sear a piece of beef.

Cook for another two to three minutes on the other side. Then push your index and middle fingers gently into the steak.

The touch methods suggested by the other posters are all good, but a little difficult to learn. If you press the steak and it's very soft, it's not cooked. If it's hard, it's overcooked. If it just pushes back, it's between medium rare and medium. This method is very simple and fine to begin with. The more you do this, the better you get at making fine distinctions and the more adept you'll be at comparing the steak's texture to your hand. At some point, you don't need that anymore. You just touch and know.

If the steak isn't cooked the first time you feel it (it won't be) reduce the heat to medium and repeat the steps, allowing another 60 seconds per side. If a steak takes more than 8 minutes total (4 minutes per side), it was too thick to cook under the broiler or in a pan and should have been finished in a hot oven.

To do this, note the weight of the steak before cooking. Preheat the oven to 220C, and when it's heated, sear both sides of the steak on top of the stove in a pan that can go into a hot oven. Then put that pan in the oven. Figure 14 minutes per 500gm for medium rare, less the time spent searing. So, if you seared a 500gm steak for 2 minutes on each side (4 minutes total) you'd subtract 4 minutes from 14 and get a total of 10 minutes in the oven.

The best way to test the temperature on a thick steak is with a thermometer. After about 40mm, the touch method is no longer reliable. Instant read thermometers are very inexpensive, and very useful. Everyone should have at least one. Unfortunately, if the steak is too thin -- less than 15mm -- it's difficult to get an accurate measurement.

When the steak is cooked, you must allow it between 5 (thin steak) and 10 (thick) minutes to rest. 7 minutes is ideal. The resting period is part of the cooking process, you shouldn't short circuit it. Rested meat will be juicier and more tender.

Finally -- never cut into a steak to see if it's done. This will always result in a dry, overcooked steak.

Hope this helps,
BDL

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Wow BDL now that my head is kinda spinning haha, I do have a question i want to ask and a comment for you cham cham, BDL said finish it in the oven and to use a pan that can from stove top to oven, i use a cast iron pan myself cause they can go from one to the other with no problems and they retain heat quite well. So BDL i have a method i wanted to get your insight on about resting steak, i have a friend that cooks steak all the time and he rest his on a saucer turned upside down . . . why?
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So BDL i have a method i wanted to get your insight on about resting steak, i have a friend that cooks steak all the time and he rest his on a saucer turned upside down . . . why?
Totally stumped. Please ask him though, it will be interesting to hear his thoughs.

I either rest mine on the board, or on a warmed plate. Because I usually make a pan-reduction, and wait until the steak is out of the oven to finish and plate the sides and garniture, the resting time works without any extra thought.

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Grass fed and grass finished, prime or top choice quality, dry aged rib eye is a great choice. I'm not a big steak eater, and in the past when eating steak I ate different cuts. However, the past year or so, after being introduced to it, the rib eye is my steak of choice.

Grilled over mesquite lump charcoal may be my favorite way to cook it, but other woods are also nice. Charcoal briquettes are not part of the equation. Season with a little salt (Diamond Crystal Kosher is my preference) and some fresh ground (medium grind), good quality black pepper, maybe a little oil rubbed on the meat, and that's it. Medium rare with a nice crust ... no need for much more, if anything.

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i have a friend that cooks steak all the time and he rest his on a saucer turned upside down . . . why?
If done properly, a pan seared, oven finished steak will have a nice brown crust on it, somewhat akin to the bark that forms on a smoked pork butt. Putting the steak on something elevated while it is resting helps to keep the crust from getting less crusty by the water vapor and such that will be coming out of the meat. Just flopping the steak on a plate won't let the crust 'breathe' and can make the crust soggy. I usually rest my steaks on a wooden cutting board, a porous surface, loosely tented with foil to keep it warm while I fuss with the rest of the plating.

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Ahhh ok i can see how that would work now. Thank you very much for letting me know TF
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