[boar_d_laze]

Originally Posted by bagelmen Int.

What is LYE?

Either sodium or potassium hydroxide. In high concentrations these are very caustic "bases."

BDL

[kokopuffs]

Originally Posted by bagelmen Int.

What is LYE?

Lye is NaOH (atomic symbols) or chemically known as sodium hydroxide, lye as in lye soap and serves as the active ingredient in Draino drain cleaner. It burns. Either failure to rinse thoroughly or using too much laundry detergent in clothes washing will cause lye burns on the skin.

[ED BUCHANAN]

Originally Posted by bagelmen Int.

AS far as kosher, i believe its a jewish tradition. there is many recipies and that they use for their sabbath and they call them kosher. please dont quote me, but i think that is what kosher means.

The word Kosher defined means CLEAN thats all. Although not of the Jewish faith I was in Kosher catering business in NY for 20 years. The rabbis trusted me more then the jewish guys I worked with.

[kokopuffs]

Originally Posted by ED BUCHANAN

The word Kosher defined means CLEAN thats all. Although not of the Jewish faith I was in Kosher catering business in NY for 20 years. The rabbis trusted me more then the jewish guys I worked with.

I hear that the rules or laws of Kosher are really complex.

[bagelmen Int.]

Originally Posted by boar_d_laze

No need to be sorry.

Jewish dietary law is called kashrut (sometimes written or pronounced kashruth, with an "h" -- long story). Kosher is the Yiddish/Hebrew adjective describing things which fall within the law, while treif is the term to describe things which are well outside the law.

It's not just a matter of ingredients, but combinations of ingredients and practices which can be kosher or not. Kashrut has nothing to do with shabat (the sabbath).

One combination which isn't allowed is combining milk with meat.

The term "kosher bagel" usually means one of two things. The two most common is that the bagel was made in a kosher kitchen; was only handled according to kashrut afterwards; and observant Jews are permitted to eat them. Or, that the bagel is pareve, i.e., made without milk or meat, and may be eaten during a meal which includes either.

If you see "kosher" applied to some bagels but not others on the same menu, it's the second meaning.

Not all Jews keep kosher. Of those that do, not all follow kashrut to the same degree or in exactly the same way. When in doubt, ask -- preferably the person you're trying to feed.

Hope this helps,
BDL

this really does help. it has been verry educational these last few days. but i think any one would agree, traveling is the best way to learn about kitchen, and the cullinary art in a whole entire subject. i have yet so much to see. thank you for your time.(feel good).

[bagelmen Int.]

chef ed,

thats funny how the rabbis trusted you more than their own jewish guys.lol.

[ED BUCHANAN]

Originally Posted by kokopuffs

I hear that the rules or laws of Kosher are really complex.

Many of the laws or rules are based on common sense health codes and laws we have today. A lot of politics come into play also, Example my on premise rabbi from the (OU)
union of orthodox rabbis will not permit meat into the building unless a letter accompanies the meat, from the rabbi where the meat came from(wholesaler). Therefore assuring the fact it is kosher, but also guaranteeing the other rabbi a job.
You usually can't by from a place that does not adhere to the sabbath. You can't mix dairy and meat at same time or same meal. Seperate sets of dishes for meat and dairy even in some cases seperate dishwashers. Another set of dishes for passover. You can circumvent this by using glass plates, which are non pouris. Seperate pots and pans for cooking and in some cases seperate kitchens. Thats why Kosher caterers charge more.

[petalsandcoco]

In Hospitals, even separate kitchens.

Petals

[ED BUCHANAN]

There are many ways around seperate kitchens.