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French Pastry School, Chicago ..or France?

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Thread Starter 
Hi there,
I'm a student finishing up my B.Sc. Degree in Anthropology in Toronto. I currently have a cool job (archaeological fieldworker for a company that does contract work), but i'm weary about advancing in the field. I don't think i can handle the academic aspects of this field and i'm just not particularily motivated enough to make a career out of it. It was never something i even expected to be doing, and while working outdoors is great, to advance, you gotta do more academics.

ANYWAY, i've always loved cooking (ok, here comes the cliche part) and actually its the only thing i feel i have ever had a passion for. I think i need this kind of hands on work. i'd love to get rid of all the self-doubt that comes with doing something that others around me actually really LOVE doing (whereas i simply chose it out of a list of options).
So i'm considering incurring heavy debt and going into cooking in the somewhat near future...

I found out about the French Pastry school in Chicago doing a simple google search, and it looks good. Does anyone know how it rates or have any comments?
I saw this comment on another thread:

"The French Pastry School recently started teaching in conjunction with Washburn and I believe their program to be top notch. I have also heard that some of their students have been aprenticing at a few of our city's better restaurants (including Trotters). Maybe they are on the upturn."

Ideally, i want to work in restaurants, cafes, bakeries...and i like the idea that being self-employed in the future is a definate possibility.
I plan on maybe going to France/Europe after the 24 week program and finding work for a while, before returning to Canada.

Does all this sound viable?

Also, which schools are recommended in France?

PS_ chicago seems like a random choice for a Torontonian, but my mother just recently moved there, so why not spend 6 months closer to her if the school is decent :)
post #2 of 10

Lcb

hi, Eda and everyone,

i've been thinking about studying for a pastry cert or diploma during the past 2 years. although i've got a master's degree in finance, i never feel completely satisfied with what i do at work. i am like Eda that i've always loved cooking (there are a lot more cooking and pastry books than finance books on my book shelf!), and decided that i must at least try to do this or i will regret it for the rest of my life, and finally i quitted my research job at a university about 2 months ago!

i prefer pastry because i love desserts and chocolates and i think it's more suitable for a female who is physically small (i'm only 5 feet tall :D ). i took an online 3-month chocolatier course last september and have been taking 1-day pastry course occasionally with local (hongkong) pastry chefs.

in the past, i always think that LCB in Paris is the place to go to, but it is too big of an investment at this initial stage. after talking to pastry chefs, researching and considering my financial situation, my 2 final choices came down to LCB in Ottawa and the French Pastry School. in the past week, i think i will apply for a basic pastry cert at LCB in Ottawa because it can give me more flexibility in terms of what i can do in the short term and long term. i want see what i can do with the basic cert first, and i can always continue for the higher level certificates in the future at LCB Ottawa or Paris if i need to. but well, if i am richer, and live in US or Canada, i would choose the French Pastry School...

Eda: good luck with your search!

;)
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Hey Eda...I'm a current student at The French Pastry School. All I can stay is...the school is amazing. You have chefs Jacquy Pfeiffer and Sebastien Canonne who are known throughout the world. Chef Sebastien not long ago received his MOF, Chef Jacquy was named Celebrity Pastry Chef of the year 2005 , and Chef John Kraus won the Chocolate Challenge award in Atlantic City and he has been named one of the Top 10 Pastry Chefs.

I know of one guy, in the morning stream, who's working at Trotter's right now...which is cool. A few others are working a couple well-known pastry shops around Chicago.

Just my 2 cents.

Best wishes with school
post #4 of 10
Thread Starter 
Thanks to you both! And Tytitan, that sounds pretty impressive.
Any other comments are still welcomed..
post #5 of 10

Hi everyone, I was going to  start my culinary program  at Kendall College Chicago untill my executive sous chef asked me not to he told me to check the French Pastry School first I just viisited their website today and I really Love it ... so I'm thinking about joinging :D ...

 

P.S : I'm still going for the tour and check the wedding pieces of the FPS to compare them to those at kendall ( I loved them when I visited )...

 

I wish a good luck to all of you ...

 

Myriam :D

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I urgently need some advice on pastry schools I have seen earlier posts on the French Pastry School and Kendal but no conclusions, if you went to either would you recommend either to a family member? and what about the NY schools has anyone been to one. PLEASE PLEASE your advice would be invaluable.

Many thanks Joy

post #7 of 10

Hi Joy,

 

Can you tell me more what your looking to do? Your title says owner operator so what business are you currently running that would benefit from pastry school? It is a sizable investment and time commitment and I think you could get the same training working for a good restaurant and pastry chef. The one in NY is going to cost even more because of the housing issue so that is definitely something to figure into your cost.

post #8 of 10

Dear Eda and others considering culinary schools.

 

 

Please, please, pretty please with a cherry on top, work first in the industry  before you plunk our money down for a school. 

 

It doesn't matter what kind of a job, supermarket bake-off or M & P muffin shop, but please work at least 6 mths.

 

I kid you not, cooking and baking is a manual trade, and because there are so many restaurants and bakeries around,  people have very little respect for them.  This translates into lousy salaries

 

I also have to inform you that in the U.S., there is no standard as towhat a cook or pastry cook should know or be capable of.  This fact is exploited by many culinary schools and is reflected in their curicculae. Since there are no standards, there are no standards for pay scales.

 

So please work in the industry for a while before you spend big money on a school.  

post #9 of 10

Thanks for the prompt response, I currently run my own at home bakery business catering deserts for small parties, individuals etc but I want to take it to the next level with wedding cakes proffessional finishes etc I'm just not where I want to be yet, so I've been thinking about pastry school........any suggestions??

post #10 of 10

Pastry Chefs were in great demand a few years ago and it was hard to find a good one at least here in Florida . Therefore companies such as ""Sweet Street ""started making excellent cakes,pies and pastries for sale to food service facilities.  I have used them and some are excellent. Cheaper then hiring pastry chef too. Schools may help BUT you have to have it in the hands(artistic qualities) there is a vast difference between a pastry chef and a baker.

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