Thanks for your reply. I scrolled through the messages. I guess I am stumped. I currently live in Austin,TX and I am looking into schools in SF. I went and visited SFCC last week. Everything seemed ok, but maybe I wasn't asking the right questions. The appealing aspect was the class size, and yes the externship is weak. I honestly don't know what to do at this point. I like the fact I can get it done for $2,000 compared to the other schools like CCA. But at what price do I really pay? Do I pay to learn basic techniques I may be able to teach myself or do I go into debt and go to one of the better schools in the country? This whole process is frustrating. In a funny way, these message boards sometimes work against you. I may have a decision figured out, then I will read some negative posts about certain schools and I feel I am at the starting blocks all over again. Anyway, thanks again Greg.