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post #61 of 72

Yowza. 8 year old thread. Ok. I'll play. 

 

I hate it when people consider food a simple necessity and that over elaborate cooking is stupid and unnecessary. I also hate it when people think all you need to know to cook well is to be able to read a recipe. I hate it when cooks and chefs aren't respected for their craft, and think it's just an activity every housewife can do - something you don't need to have a talent or knack for - and that anybody can do it. Sure, anybody can roast a chicken with practice, but developing a menu for a week without waste while keeping it exciting and interesting is something else.   

 

Food is more than just sustenance and proteins/carbs/vitamins to fuel your body. Food is society, art, culture, love, and relationships. Some people are good at it and others aren't. Just like medicine, accounting, law, etc. 

post #62 of 72
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I find it very interesting how we as chefs and cooks are so easily threatened by others in the industry, and how readily our hackles go up over the slightest things. I know many won't admit to that, but it's so true. I have experienced this cave-man behavior since the day I started in this industry. I wonder if other industries are like this, and if not, why do we behave this way?

 

Of course there are other industries like this.  All of them are like this.  It's a matter of ego, and egotists are everywhere!!!!  I'm a musician, you would not believe how easily people are threatened by others.  

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post #63 of 72

I hate it when I've made a nice plate with refined food and see my guest mix it all up before starting to eat!

post #64 of 72
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Guests who won't even try my food because they're used to crap. My family is the worst when it comes to this. I've given up cooking anything half way decent for any of them. I know it's a cultural thing, but it actually really hurts my feelings very deeply.

People who won't even try your food because they don't like the most basic ingredients on the planet, like effin vegetables.

Other chefs who add things to stuff you're cooking.

Someone who grabs my chef knife off my cutting board without permission, and even worse, leaves it wherever they used it and walks away. This is something that almost makes me homicidal.

and what panini said:

OMG!! That is the worst! My in laws who are actually living with us right now (long story) basically view my cooking as on par with Hamburger Helper (all they EVER eat). It's like, people PAY for my food, ok? Why even bother cooking for them? Waste of my time if boxed meals will suffice

And at work, if you touch my knife, you will get cut. It's my most prized possession and an anniveraary gift from my hubby smile.gif
post #65 of 72

I just had to add one more behavior I find insulting, and it's been irking me for nearly 20 years..

 

When you work in a kitchen (none that I've had recently, thank God for that) and the male chefs don't ever put you in charge of anything having to do with red meat, or any meat for that matter, because in their ignorant little pea brains only male chefs know how to fabricate meat, season meat, sear meat, roast meat, temp meat, rest meat, and slice meat.

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post #66 of 72
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Guests who won't even try my food because they're used to crap. My family is the worst when it comes to this. I've given up cooking anything half way decent for any of them. I know it's a cultural thing, but it actually really hurts my feelings very deeply.

 

People who won't even try your food because they don't like the most basic ingredients on the planet, like effin vegetables.

 

Yeah, I am no professional, but that one gets me, too. Had the misfortune to cook for some yoga fanatics lately. Everything suggested went right out of the window due to some ayurvedic reason or the other. I am sorry, I will accomodate any preferences based on allergies etc., I have no problems making vegetarian meals, but if *everything* is rejected due to some ideological bullcrap that boils down to "anything with taste is bad", well, I am not going to make a dish consisting of beans or lentils without any spice or aromatics. the chicken feed is in the shed out back. Grab a sack of it.

post #67 of 72
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Of course there are other industries like this.  All of them are like this.  It's a matter of ego, and egotists are everywhere!!!!  I'm a musician, you would not believe how easily people are threatened by others.  

 

Most certainly - seen the same in academic research as well as in patent law practise. Two reasons, I guess

 

- "anything done different from my way is an attack on myself" - stoneage brain taking over; or

- "I did this for twenty years and it always worked my way" - well, sure, but I am doing it long enough to know that my way works, too.

post #68 of 72
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 the chicken feed is in the shed out back. Grab a sack of it.

:p Lmao

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post #69 of 72

How about owner mud cutters that feel threatened and instead of embracing/recognizing talent respond with "your services are no longer needed"?, w/o cause of course.

Seen it a couple of times to some really good people, pi$$es me off thinking about it.

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post #70 of 72

You graduated from CIA?  Maybe it's not too late to get your money back.

post #71 of 72
What I find to be the single most insulting thing a customer can do is mistreat one of my cooks or service staff. Obviously, everyone deserves to be treated with dignity and respect. However, It seems to me that their is a perception, among some, that people that choose to work in the food business are below them. While the industry certainly does attract more than it's fair share of misfits, miscreants, and other dubious characters, those that choose a career in the business have generally worked hard to develop a skill no different than that of any other skilled tradesman. I take great pride in the career that I have chosen and I find it deeply insulting and offensive when the people that are following the same path I chose for myself are not treated with common courtesy and respect.

Another thing that customers do that I find to be deeply insulting is to claim that a dish, something they have never had before, is prepared improperly. To say that something is not prepared to their liking is one thing. However, I can assure you that I have gone to great lengths to ensure that your food has been prepared precisely the way it was intended to be prepared.

Finally, while this has been a rare occurrence, I find it offensive when a fellow chef thumbs their nose at the fact that I or one of my associates doesn't hold the same credentials that they do. I went to culinary school at a community college and don't hold any ACF certifications. The fact that you went to Johnson and Wales or are a C.E.C. in no way demonstrates your superiority as a culinarian. I have worked under chefs that had all the credentials in the world but couldn't cook their way out of a paper bag. On the other hand, I have worked for and with chefs and cooks with zero formal education that were among the most highly skilled, talented, and creative chefs I have ever met.
post #72 of 72
What I find to be the single most insulting thing a customer can do is mistreat one of my cooks or service staff. Obviously, everyone deserves to be treated with dignity and respect. However, It seems to me that their is a perception, among some, that people that choose to work in the food business are below them. While the industry certainly does attract more than it's fair share of misfits, miscreants, and other dubious characters, those that choose a career in the business have generally worked hard to develop a skill no different than that of any other skilled tradesman. I take great pride in the career that I have chosen and I find it deeply insulting and offensive when the people that are following the same path I chose for myself are not treated with common courtesy and respect.

Another thing that customers do that I find to be deeply insulting is to claim that a dish, something they have never had before, is prepared improperly. To say that something is not prepared to their liking is one thing. However, I can assure you that I have gone to great lengths to ensure that your food has been prepared precisely the way it was intended to be prepared.

Finally, while this has been a rare occurrence, I find it offensive when a fellow chef thumbs their nose at the fact that I or one of my associates doesn't hold the same credentials that they do. I went to culinary school at a community college and don't hold any ACF certifications. The fact that you went to Johnson and Wales or are a C.E.C. in no way demonstrates your superiority as a culinarian. I have worked under chefs that had all the credentials in the world but couldn't cook their way out of a paper bag. On the other hand, I have worked for and with chefs and cooks with zero formal education that were among the most highly skilled, talented, and creative chefs I have ever met.
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