I am interested in becoming a bread baker. I am currentley 15 and work at a top artisan bread shop in detroit. I was wondering if it is really necesary to go to a pastry school if i just want to bake bread and eventually open my own bakery. Also, how much money can be made owning a bread bakery.
ChefTalk.com › ChefTalk Cooking Forums › Food and Cooking Forums › Pastries and Baking General › Opening a Bakery
Join Now
Be a part of the community.
It's free, join today!
Featured Sponsors
Recent Reviews
-
I love this knife and have used it daily since i got it from a friend about 3 years ago. I also have the 20 inch but im much more comfortable with this one. my only gripe is because the blade is...
-
I have learned and made many delicious and delicate recipes. Any recipes here will make your man/men happy
-
It is a very handy pastry book however the recipes measurement uses large quantity. This make it difficult for home cook. Nonetheless I enjoy reading and some of the professional techniques I...
-
We got this as a wedding gift and used it several times of the years. I have recently been using it quite a lot and have debated replacing it with a new bigger compressor model, but may just...
-
I have been waiting for years for a good, reliable and easy to use iperEspresso machine. Now I can have my favorite illy espresso every morning. I highly recommend to get 'capresso froth pro' to...
Opening a Bakery
post #2 of 5
2/26/06 at 7:07am
- chrose
-
- Professional Chef
- offline
- Joined 11/2000
- Location: Rochester, NY, USA
- Posts: 2,556
- Reviews: 7
- Select All Posts By This User
There are a number of people on this site that are better suited to answering this particular question, but let me put my 2ยข in (0.235 Euro)
Simply put no you do not need to go to culinary school to be a bread baker. School will offer you a well rounded education that will make you better suited to work in a given industry. It is possible to apprentice (or at least work for awhile and absorb what they're doing) at some places. You may well learn all you need to know from that. That being said there are also schools that specialize in bread baking do some research.
As far as your second question; "how much money can be made owning a bread bakery."
That is almost entirely up to you. You can make as little or as much as you like. You can have a small family artisan bakery and make enough to survive, or maybe be popular and make a nice living. You may turn it into a chain and make a freakin fortune! Money is a large function of your desire, dedication and business savvy that can't always be learned. There are many people that went to the prestigious Wharton school of business. Many make a lot of money, many make a fortune, many likely just make it, and then there's the occasional Donald Trump. The point being, there are a lot of ways of being successful in the hospitality industry, and also in the bread making biz, that will be up to you.
Good luck!
Here are a couple of links that might help:
http://www.progressivebaker.com/
http://www.bakingandbakingscience.com/
Simply put no you do not need to go to culinary school to be a bread baker. School will offer you a well rounded education that will make you better suited to work in a given industry. It is possible to apprentice (or at least work for awhile and absorb what they're doing) at some places. You may well learn all you need to know from that. That being said there are also schools that specialize in bread baking do some research.
As far as your second question; "how much money can be made owning a bread bakery."
That is almost entirely up to you. You can make as little or as much as you like. You can have a small family artisan bakery and make enough to survive, or maybe be popular and make a nice living. You may turn it into a chain and make a freakin fortune! Money is a large function of your desire, dedication and business savvy that can't always be learned. There are many people that went to the prestigious Wharton school of business. Many make a lot of money, many make a fortune, many likely just make it, and then there's the occasional Donald Trump. The point being, there are a lot of ways of being successful in the hospitality industry, and also in the bread making biz, that will be up to you.
Good luck!
Here are a couple of links that might help:
http://www.progressivebaker.com/
http://www.bakingandbakingscience.com/
post #3 of 5
2/26/06 at 11:49am
- foodpump
-
- Owner/Operator
- offline
- Joined 10/2005
- Location: Vancouver, Canada
- Posts: 2,636
- Select All Posts By This User
Keep on baking, but also keep an eye on your Boss, and see what he does in the office.
You can make good money from Artisan bread, IF, and only IF you have customers to buy it. No matter how wonderful your bread is, no one will buy if they don't know you or your bakery exists. Very harsh and matter of fact statement, but that's what business is all about, it's very realistic.
Keep on dreaming and planning, it's good preparation. Start looking at recipie costs, yields, etc. Go shopping with your family or friends, and when passing a bakery ask them what they would pay for this loaf, what would they pay for that loaf, what kind of bread do they normally buy. See what rent would cost for a 1200 sq ft bakery, what tripple net means, what kind of power you'd need, what kind of equipment. Once you're aware of all these costs, then you can start making more definate plans.
You can make good money from Artisan bread, IF, and only IF you have customers to buy it. No matter how wonderful your bread is, no one will buy if they don't know you or your bakery exists. Very harsh and matter of fact statement, but that's what business is all about, it's very realistic.
Keep on dreaming and planning, it's good preparation. Start looking at recipie costs, yields, etc. Go shopping with your family or friends, and when passing a bakery ask them what they would pay for this loaf, what would they pay for that loaf, what kind of bread do they normally buy. See what rent would cost for a 1200 sq ft bakery, what tripple net means, what kind of power you'd need, what kind of equipment. Once you're aware of all these costs, then you can start making more definate plans.
post #4 of 5
2/26/06 at 6:07pm
icore4,
I think this is a very motivated question for a 15 yr old. You are at a very good age to get structured. First, remember that those who post to you are only giving you their opinions, so you soak up everything and store it. I'd like to address the idea of opening a bakery. This is a good time to understand that you want to open a bakery, but more importantly, you want to open a business. What you do is secondary to running the business. So I would spend some quality time gathering the tools you might need to do so. The question is, how much money can you make owning a BUSINESS?
Stay with the bread and take one step at a time. If you have specific questions, We have a little bakery, email me anytime.
pan
I think this is a very motivated question for a 15 yr old. You are at a very good age to get structured. First, remember that those who post to you are only giving you their opinions, so you soak up everything and store it. I'd like to address the idea of opening a bakery. This is a good time to understand that you want to open a bakery, but more importantly, you want to open a business. What you do is secondary to running the business. So I would spend some quality time gathering the tools you might need to do so. The question is, how much money can you make owning a BUSINESS?
Stay with the bread and take one step at a time. If you have specific questions, We have a little bakery, email me anytime.
pan
post #5 of 5
3/3/06 at 11:49am
baking program
We have a baking program here at Le Cordon Bleu (Chicago).. If you are interested in learning more about it give me a call at 312-873-2037. I am enrolled for May.. I am an admissions advisor here and work 9-6 typically. I have a business degree and thought i would combine the two. (bakery or do wedding cakes?)
Return Home
Back to Forum: Pastries and Baking General
ChefTalk.com › ChefTalk Cooking Forums › Food and Cooking Forums › Pastries and Baking General › Opening a Bakery
Currently, there are 162 Active Users
(4 Members and 158 Guests)
Recent Discussions
- › More Flavor 33 minutes ago
- › Irish Food? 44 minutes ago
- › Looking for a book - That's Sugar by Ewald Notter 55 minutes ago
- › I hate Vegans (cooking)........!!!!! 1 hour, 36 minutes ago
- › expanding horizons 1 hour, 42 minutes ago
- › I am going on a summer holiday ..... 1 hour, 47 minutes ago
- › Crepe Recipes? 1 hour, 50 minutes ago
- › Favourite color 1 hour, 52 minutes ago
- › ventless deep fryer 2 hours, 11 minutes ago
- › for those in professional kitchens - ticket taking/expediting 2 hours, 20 minutes ago
View: New Posts | All Discussions
Recent Reviews
- › Shun Classic 8-Inch Chef's Knife by Pirate-chef
- › Pastry: Savory and Sweet by Shin Louis
- › The Professional Pastry Chef: Fundamentals of Baking and Pastry,... by Shin Louis
- › Donvier 1-Quart Ice Cream Maker by jhop
- › FrancisFrancis Y 1.1 iper Espresso Machine by jkun
- › Victorinox Cutlery 10-Inch Curved Cimeter, Black Fibrox Handle by boar_d_laze
- › Spiced Right: Flavorful cooking with herbs and spices by KYHeirloomer
- › Royal Coffee Maker Modern Copper Vacuum Coffee Brewer by boar_d_laze
- › Bodum Eileen 8 Cup French Press Coffeemaker, 1.0 l, 34-Ounce by boar_d_laze
- › Breville BCG800XL Smart Grinder by boar_d_laze
View: More Reviews
Recent Articles
- › Traditional Bologna Bolognese by MARGCATA
- › Basque Cod Fish Brandade by MARGCATA
- › Irish Soda Bread by MARGCATA
- › Turkey: Kasar Cheese by MARGCATA
- › Cuban & Mexican Tamales: by MARGCATA
- › Sushi and Sashimi by MARGCATA
- › Sukiyaki by MARGCATA
- › Shirataki by MARGCATA
- › Thistle Family: Cardoon Root by MARGCATA
- › Shichimi Togarashi by MARGCATA
View: Recent Articles | All Articles
Home | Reviews | Forums | Articles | Galleries | My Profile
About ChefTalk.com | Join the Community | Advertise
© 2012 ChefTalk.com Inc. is powered by Huddler Fashion & Lifestyle | FAQ | Support | Privacy/TOS | Site Map
About ChefTalk.com | Join the Community | Advertise
© 2012 ChefTalk.com Inc. is powered by Huddler Fashion & Lifestyle | FAQ | Support | Privacy/TOS | Site Map




