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post #1 of 14
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Here we go again! :rolleyes: :crazy: :o I'm not asking for advice, just personal opinions from people who are and aren't in the "thick of things". Obviously I must want to get out of what I am doing now, that I have been doing for the last 5-1/2 years. I just went through a preliminary interview and will see in the next 2 weeks if they want me back for a second one. I feel good about it. It is for a "cooks" position. Moving into the head cook (chefs) position is always a possibility down the road. It is a 556 bed permanent care hospital with patient services, cafeteria, catering for 2 -250 as they put it. There is a Head cook, a sous, and 4 other cooks. The shifts are 4:30 am to 1:30 pm, 5:30 am to 1:30 pm, 7:30 am to to 3:30 and 9:30 am to 6:30 pm. The cooks rotate and cover other shifts as necessary.
It is institutional cooking at its finest. There is a puree station as there are usually around 100 puree meals a day. Then off course there's all manner of dietary needs throughout. The cafeteria of course has salads, hot items, pizza etc.
Uniforms are provided, clean them yourself, or have the laundry do them. The hospital is county run, so it's a state job, Union job, (good bennies, retirement etc) 13 holidays a year. I would make at least what I am making now, possibly 2K more annually than I now make.
Of course that means that the hours will vary, the kitchen is hot and steamy (steam kettles, etc, hot lines, dish room, pot room).
I sit on my butt now, which is nice, but how healthy is it to sit all day either? I also have quite a bit of freedom to come and go now, but I am low man on the totem pole which means that at any time the bubble could burst. Usually in a state job it takes an act of Congress to get rid of someone.
Any and all opinions welcome.
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My latest musical venture!
http://myspace.com/nikandtheniceguys
 
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post #2 of 14
The whole thing sounds like a crap deal. I mean holidays,state benes, hosptalization,probably overtime, 66 sick days a year, knowing you, fast tracking to whatever the highest level is over all hospitals-school-prisons etc. Oh and retiring with 70-90 percent pay. I'd think twice before doing something like that.
Get yourself a backpack carring buerre mixer and head on over there. Don't let this one pass. You'll still have a family life. opportunity to do some upscale stuff, you know they luv that kinda thing. and I know this is not PC but if your food cost is outta wack, just tell the alzheimer's floor they already ate.:D
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post #3 of 14
snort laugh snort giggle....that's really BAD Pan....really really BAD.
Looks like a winner to me.
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post #4 of 14
Follow your instincts Ch is all I can tell you man. No one knows you better than you.

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post #5 of 14
Thanks for that laugh out loud, at 0145 here after a ****** shift Panini!

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post #6 of 14
oh thats just wrong, but i did laugh my butt off. :lol:
post #7 of 14
Oh boy I did not see that line. Pan, shame,shame,shame:lol:

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post #8 of 14
Thread Starter 
Ohh that's baddd..... oh god, my sides hurt!:D
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http://www.myspace.com/popshowband "I'm at the age when food has taken the place of sex in my life. In fact I've just had a mirror put over my kitchen table." Rodney Dangerfield RIP
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My latest musical venture!
http://myspace.com/nikandtheniceguys
 
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http://www.myspace.com/popshowband "I'm at the age when food has taken the place of sex in my life. In fact I've just had a mirror put over my kitchen table." Rodney Dangerfield RIP
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post #9 of 14
This sounds pretty good. I used to hang with some Hospital chefs and they were actively involved in the ACF. They got their CEC along the way and managed to host some really impressive dinners.

Go for it! Stable, good hours. Start using the gym at the hospital, walk on the treadmill or something. :)
post #10 of 14
chrose,
having worked a couple of these gigs, i do know you won't be working your butt off, usually there's more than enough staff(and they're all trying to hide from the supervisor or pretend they're busy). the only part that fried my mind was there was zero creativity involved, and i just couldn't stand the boredom. but you can do the creative stuff at home. and state bennies are the best, you just have to love the 13 holidays a year! good luck on whichever way you choose.
kathee
post #11 of 14
Chrose,
I worked in a retirement home where they had puree, dysphagia, ADA and a few other diets. At least you'll have some support staff. I had to do it all by myself. You had to cook the main entree, create the entree for dysphagia and then for puree. Then you had to create an alternate entree for the patients who didn't like the main entree. Then let's not forget the ADA (Diabetics) meal. It was challenging but I learned a lot. I say go for it!
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post #12 of 14
I think you will love it. Certainly there are benefits, for you and your family. And it need not necessarily be boring. I owned a couple a rest homes for a decade or so, and for the most part loved it. They were a lot smaller than the one you are considering. They were all dementias of one sort or another, and we had fun. Quite often family members sat down with their relatives, the most popular day was Wednesday for their weekly lamb roast dinner with all the trimmings. Lots of pan gravy of course. It seemed so little extra for another leg of lamb in the overall scheme of things, and they loved us for it. Many of the visitors were elderly themselves, and it did help. Staff ate what the patients had. Sunday was roast beef or chicken. They liked roasts, and of course it makes yummy puree. With the gravy. Roasted meals are very NZ. We used a lot of fruit, mainly fresh stewed, at the 3 main meals, this resulted in substantial reduction in laxitives. But it has to be introduced slowly so they can 'acclimatise', or else the nursing staff will hate you. We used cartons and cartons of bananas for the potassium, a natural calming effect, and for the 'feeders' a bowl of mashed banana with grated cheese. I also gave my kids that, they loved it. We mainly used it for meals about 0500 and there about for the early wakers. The cheese can be pre grated of course but the 'nana must be freshly peeled. This small meal can induce sleep as well. Better than pills.

The food budget for that time, was generally understood to be 8% of the pre tax fee for service. Most came in about that, we were over, some, were less. I don't know how they did it. I inspected many many menus for the DOH, and I still fail to see why a few slips of camenbert cannot be slipped into a salad for those who can eat it. Peeling and deseeding a grape or 5, is tedious. What is not tedious is watching someone eat it.

These olds may be as mad as a snake. But even when they don't know their own name, they do remember the flavour.

I am quite certain you will just adore it. We used millions of eggs, they loved mushrooms, as soup or a sort of stew with finely chopped bacon. Some just liked them on toast and whole but cooked. They could manage that. It was popular with our evening visitors too. For tea time, 1750hrs, soup and tea sandwiches were well received, with a fine salad that could be eaten with a spoon. We never gave them pasta, or rice, these things can get stuck under a denture and irritate. But they did love rice pudding. Bread and butter pudding, and a savoury thing that involved cubed bread, herbs, onions, eggs, minced bacon. Whatever. There is too much to say.

I believe you will have a wonderful time. I did. We all did. Best of everything to you. Kindest regards. Diane
post #13 of 14
chrose,
what's the verdict? did you take the position?
kat
post #14 of 14
I worked for a union once. Ghastly. Kept changing my schedule around until I couldn't tell what day it was anymore. Union rules are the pits. No amount of benefits (which turned out to be a lot less than what was advertised) would get me to work for one again.
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