:crazy: thanx panini, so your saying that at20hrs @15$/hr =300$ I should retail this out at 1500$ and what does cogs. stand for ? ok , this is what i do , the owner of the resort rents the banquet facilities for weddings and since we are out of the way he has a kind of one stop shop going on with other venders sub-contracted. Now, i'm the pastry chef (also sub contracted) so i can make custom desserts for the party and i charge the resort by the piece (eg.14 lemon tarts @18.$each) he then upcharges the couple for his cut plus plating. now the cakes have come up because no one delivers from winnipeg to our dirt road and there are no bakeries in our small towm or any where around who do homemade quality cakes, hand made sugar flowers etc.now the resturant is booking up fast (this is it's second year) as people are finding out about us .Brides are excited to know that someone is doing cakes cause that is one less thing they need to worry about so now i'm getting very booked with the resurants 6 desserts 5 homemade icecreams and all the sauces to go with them. plus custom desserts for those brides who don't want Sisco products and i just bought a chocolate fountain since they are hot and no one is doing that in my neck of the woods but that means i've got to be there to man it. so i charge very well for my desserts, and fountain i'm happy the owner is getting a profit and the brides are happy but the cakes are a diffrent story. the owner wants me to charge what ever will make me happy he just passes it on to the bride with his 10% cut, but i don't know what is reasonable for all the time (steps involved baking cake, filling,buttercream,fondant,flowers wiring, piping work, putting all together and then making sure it gets there i one piece) see the stress!do i just need more experience to be faster or just charge more?