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Good point, Kuan. There's a natural food store near my home that labels the milk that merits the label as "hormone free". (One of my U.S. Senators, Russ Feingold, spearheaded legislation that resulted in such labeling when he was a state senator.

The marketing people will want to use that "pure" status as a tool. At least people who want to know would be able to make an informed choice.
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post #62 of 69
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FDA calls for comments on cloned meat policy

My local paper had a piece about the FDA calling for comments on its DRAFT policy on cloned meat.

Here's a link to see the draft policy. At the bottom of the page there's a link to follow to add your comments.

http://www.fda.gov/bbs/topics/NEWS/2006/NEW01541.html

Have at it!

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post #63 of 69
I have a question, if they do get cloned meat mainstream, and they do decide (voluntarily or mandatory) to label it- how will that affect what we find in a restaurant? Will we have to change the menus to include "cloned" in the dish description ie. "9oz cloned rib-eye, with a wine, mushroom, and shallot sauce served over...." ??? and would customers order that?? (I'll take this, only could you hold the cloning on mine??)
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post #64 of 69
I doubt that "cloned meat" will be making an apperance at the local market anytime soon, as the cost to clone a cow is MUCH higher than to breed one.

That being said, this is just one more example of government hiding facts about our food supply from us. You have to disclose all ingedents in your salsa, but cloned, medicated, and chemically enhancement doesn't warrant a mention.
post #65 of 69
I have to call BS on that. Nowhere in the structuring documents of our nation does it declare that the governemnt shall require all food to be labeled about every possible thing. It's simply not the government's job. Nor should it be.

Look at the dairy issue. Most doctors think we consume too much dairy product. But the dairy lobby and gets the FDA to include a sizable dairy recommendation in the food pyramid. The government is a poor standard for healthy practices. We should look to people who are in the health industries, doctors and nutritionists for example who as private groups aren't subject to political lobbying.

If we as consumers showed detailed interest in our food, producers would be all over themselves to provide detailed info for the competitive edge. And there are producers providing all that info and more. But the fact is most consumers don't read labels and don't understand the nutrition labeling even when directly asked to read it.

With all that against the FDA and our current food market, what we call organic produce today simply CAN NOT meet the requirements for FDA approval in the food supply if that varietal were to have been created via genetic modification. Our natural food doesnt' rise to the level of safety the FDA requires of modded food.

Paracelcus was right. Everything is poison; only the dosage makes something poison.

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post #66 of 69
That's the point, the FDA is actually an arm of large agribusiness, and as such is not interested in health, but in maximizing industry profits.

As for looking to people in the so-called health industry, they are the ones that where pushing margarine a number of years ago. The health industry has no real interest in improving health, as there is so much more profit in healing rather than prevention.

We need to think more about what we eat and how we prepare our food. Fresh, clean and natural always beats heavily pre-processed.
post #67 of 69
To a small degree. More strongly, Doctors relied on the BEST information available. When the information was updated, they updated their views. Sounds highly responsive and responsible to me.

I like fresh food, but we can't know everything so at some point you have to rely on professionals in their respective fields. Pick them wisely.

Phil
post #68 of 69
That's a good question, b.c there will be people who want to know, as evidenced by many posts on this thread, including mine.

I think we might see more of what we see now, menus that list where the meat comes from, like "Niman Ranch organic milk-fed pork," or whatever. I find it hard to believe anyone will print the word "cloned" on it b.c its rife with controversy. I don't think the labeling thing applies to menus anyway, and I don't think that kind of labeling even falls under truth-in-menu laws. Its just that if a customer asks a question, hopefully they'll get an honest answer.

I don't know, I have to say, these kinds of things provide a great opportunity for the more "natural" and "organic" food purveyors to capitalize on b.c their products become a rarity.
post #69 of 69
Unfortunately, when all health concerns, ecology, moral aspects, truth in advertising, and fear of the unknown, is all cleared aside...... it seems to all come down the the $$$$- who has it, and who stands to make the most from it! If it was a moral/ethical/health decision, wouldn't most restaurants be serving local organic produce and meats because it is healthier for the comsumers?, but it is rarely financially feesible to do so. Right now, it still costs $40,000 to clone a cow- even Kobe beef is cheaper than that- but remember when other "controversial" items came along- microwaves for example, they were pricey and folks were concerned about the effects- now you can buy a micro for $30 and they are in nearly every kitchen and college dorm in the country. And no one even thinks about the effects of microwaves anymore........ perhaps we become complacent with time.....
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