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Baking Sheet Question

post #1 of 18
4/21/07 at 4:59pm
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Over the years I've done a reasonable amount of cooking, but have never had the need for a baking sheet. Now I do, and I'd like to get a high quality sheet that will be durable. What should I liik for? Is this a good sheet?

Williams-Sonoma | Catalog

I've only picked this one as it was one of the first to come up on a Google search, and it seemed as good a place to start as any. Comments and suggestions very welcome, especially with regard to material, coatings, thickness. And what's the deal with these silicon mats I've heard about? How do they affect things like pizza crust or cookie crispness?

BTW, is a baking sheet and a cookie sheet the same thing?

Thanks!

Shel
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post #2 of 18
4/21/07 at 5:09pm
i use silicon mats as if looked after will last you years and nothing will ever stick to them
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post #3 of 18
4/21/07 at 5:22pm
shel, my darling,

go to the nearest restaurant supply store and get half size sheet pans, sometimes called jellyroll pans. (they should cost you 7-14 dollars each)

DO NOT BUY OR USE NON STICK WITH TEFLON - it's environmentally not so good and not good for you.

invest in a box of parchment paper sheets (not the rolls, they never lay flat) that you can cut in half to fit your pans, keeps cookies from sticking, great for sugar work etc.. (48 dollars for 500 to 1000 sheets, should last a home baker a lifetime) {and you can make pastry bags with them, writing cones and paper hats! also good for tracing and chocolate work}

light pans take on less heat while dark pans absorb more heat.


:bounce:
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post #4 of 18
4/21/07 at 5:30pm
some ideas from the cheftalk.com link to amazon:

pans:
Amazon.com: sheet pan


parchment:
Amazon.com: Parchment Paper Sheets - 13 × 18: Home & Garden
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post #5 of 18
4/21/07 at 6:02pm
Jelly roll pans are what I use the most.

One of the specialty kitchen equipment stores in my area sells packs of pre-cut parchment paper for the jelly roll pans. Very handy, though I also have silpats

I do have some of the air insulated sheets too. They have some specialty uses, but I mostly use it for a huge peel for cooking big pizzas as it doesn't have sides.
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post #6 of 18
4/22/07 at 6:38am
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Thanks all - you've been a big help and have refreshed my memory about these items. I've gotta get over to the local restaurant supply house, even if only to look around.

Shel
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post #7 of 18
4/22/07 at 6:48am
Shel, I agree with M Brown, jelly roll pans should work just great, I have several for the house. They fit in my home oven. Parchment...well that stuff is great, helps with clean up a bunch, when fillings, syrup, sugar spill over etc... just ball it up and in the trash. Generally they are impregnated with silicone, but I still use non stick spray. If you use parchment you really do not need "non stick" pans they only scratch when cleaning anyway. I also use a sil pat (silicone sheet) for specialty stuff I do not want to stick, florentines, tuille cookies etc. As others said nothing sticks.. I do not use any other silicone stuff ie: muffin trays etc. seems to me to be to flexible to handle when filled with batter...just a personal opinion.

I have been reading your posts about you starting to bake, you will enjoy it. When I first started school I wanted to "cook" and the classes were filled. I was asked to take the baking & pastry first...hmmm OK... I am glad I did, taught me alot of discapline when cooking. A good lesson. Another good kitchen item (tool) you may want to consider is a decent digital scale, alot of baking formulas are written using weight, not volume, ie: 1 lb of bread flour = 4 cups BUT 1 lb of cake flour = 4 1/2 cups:eek: But as the old joke goes between lead and feathers... a pound is a pound...:smoking:

Good luck.... enjoy
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post #8 of 18
4/22/07 at 7:49am
I have half-sheet pans I got at Williams-Sonoma; I think they were $12. I use parchment most of the time and Silpats occasionally. I can even get two uses from a sheet of parchment for some cookies. Parchment is also nice because you can portion out the next batch of cookies (rugelach, in my case) while the pans are in the oven. Swap the sheets and you're ready to go with the next batch.
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post #9 of 18
4/22/07 at 7:57am
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The real question is how do the mats affect the results ....

Shel
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post #10 of 18
4/22/07 at 8:01am
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So, is there a preference for light or dark pans depending on what's cooking?

Shel
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post #11 of 18
4/22/07 at 8:14am
i like a dark pan for pizza and a light pan for cookies and cakes.
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post #12 of 18
4/22/07 at 9:04am
For 1/2 sheets, check out Costco. They usually have some fairly sturdy and inexpensive ones.
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post #13 of 18
4/22/07 at 9:24am
I use silpats only for delicate things like FrayedKnot noted (tuiles, fricos). Also I have only two of the mats, so I must remove one batch and put the next one onto the hot mats. Drop cookies start spreading out before they're even in the oven, which I can't think is good. Sometimes the mats need to be wiped down (melted chocolate, etc.). With parchment I can cut a sheet to fit the pan and pre-scoop the next pansful. When the first pans come out of the oven I just swap out the sheets and pop the next batch in the oven.

I also use Silpats for rolling out dough (pie crust, rugelach). But I'm more of a parchment fan these days.
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post #14 of 18
4/22/07 at 9:25am
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Thanks for jumping in, but as I mentioned, perhaps in this thread, I don't shop at big box stores unless absolutely necessary.

Shel
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post #15 of 18
4/22/07 at 9:45am
I agree with the posters who suggested you go to a restaurant supply for your pans. Count me among the Silpat fans. NOTHING sticks, they are reusable, and cookies and breads/rolls/biscuits don't get too brown on the bottom. For pizza I use a stone or a cast iron pizza pan.
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post #16 of 18
4/22/07 at 8:56pm
I use unbleached parchment. It withstands a higher temp and there is no chlorine to leach into your food.

I am thinking of getting the silpat. Does Costco carry them? I have become a Costco fan since they moved to my town last Nov.
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post #17 of 18
4/23/07 at 7:13am
I bought 4 heavy duty aluminum sheet pans that m brown posted a couple of years ago, and they are just super! No buckling or warping with these..

All my older ones were either non-stick or stainless steel, and none of them worked that good..
Especially if you put frozen items on them to bake.. Stupid things would warp like crazy after putting them in the oven..

When I make cookies I use the heavy duty sheet pans upside down.. That way, theres no sides to interfere with the heat circulation in the oven.. Not to mention it saves me from buying rimless sheets for cookies.
Works like a charm! :D
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post #18 of 18
4/23/07 at 12:21pm
the result you get with a silimat is much better than any paper, because the mat is much heavy than a parchment paper meaning whatever you place on the mat will lie flat and not be affected with a fan assisted oven,also because the mat is a good conducter of heat you will always get an even cooking but not overcooking on the underneath of the procduct, if that makes any sense, hopes this helps
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