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Your 2007 Vegetable Garden?

post #1 of 24
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So what are you growing in your garden this year? Old favorites? Trying anything new?
post #2 of 24
Ha! If it doesn't stop raining sometime soon there ain't gonna be a 2007 garden. Only thing in the ground right now is the fall-planted alliums: garlic and Rakkyo.

There were no early greens and other hardy stuff, cuz if you stepped in the gardens you sank to your knees. I had three bundles of onion plants that were tossed, because they sat around since March 13. Etc.

But, if the weather starts to cooperate, there will be a mix of old favorites and new-to-me varieties. Only heirlooms, cuz that's all I grow.

What I've got are 5 tomatoes, 3 of which are new. A new okra that dates back to a Creek woman in the Indian Nations. Four chilies, all of which I've grown before.

I'm planning 6 pole beans, two of which are old faves, the rest new to me. And a new to me red cowpea that's said to be early (as opposed to Red Ripper, which is a late season pea). Then I've got three Cherokee bush beans, which I magically have room for, being as there are no onions taking up that space.

Blacktail Mountain watermelon, for the second year. A butternut squash. And all the usual suspects among summer squashes, herbs, etc.

And, before you know it, it'll be time to start planning the fall garden.
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post #3 of 24
No room for a garden here at this time, but I'd like to plant some potted herbs - basil, thyme, rosemary - the ones I use the most. Any suggestions as to soil, size of pots, fertilizer and the like.
post #4 of 24
Size of pots depends on your room, Shel.

My kitchen herbs are mostly in 8" pots, for instance. These are kept on a rustic shelf right outside the door. But you could go smaller and keep the pots in a sunny window. Or larger, if you have the room for them.

The possible exception is the rosemary, which is a herbaceous shrub. If you stunt it in a small pot you won't get the production you probably want. So I would keep it in a largish tub (like a Rubbermaid 18-gallon).

Both the basil and thyme will do ok in a smaller pot. In theory, as small as 4". But I wouldn't go smaller than 6" myself.

An interesting approach is to use a strawberry pot, and plant an entire herb garden in it, putting a different herb in each opening. In your case, I would put the rosemary in the top, then placy basil, thyme, broad-leaf parsley, etc. in the smaller openings. Don't forget one of the mints.

Herbs are interesting in many ways, one of which is that they do not require rich soil. Any potting soil will work fine, and you shouldn't have to fertilize them at all. Or, at most, mix the fertilizer to 25% of strength, and use that only once or twice a year.

Frankly, unless I want to encourage rapid growth, I don't fertilize my herbs at all. When I do, I just use fish emulsion for a shot of nitrogen.
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post #5 of 24
I want to grow them outside. I should have mentioned that, as well as the sunlight and climate situation. There's a nice, sunny patio here that gets sun most of the day and a plce in front of the house that gets morning sun, as well as the south side of the house that gets plenty of sun. Morning fog, even in the height of summer, can be an issue, but for the most part, the days are warm, sometimes even hot, and sunny.

You mentioned a strawberry pot. I don't know what that is, but I suppose my nursery people do. Didn't think about parsley and mint ... they sound like good additions. Do you think cilantro will grow in such a situation?


post #6 of 24
Your conditions are fine. And you can, I presume, go with as large a container as you wish.

What I would do is choose an assortment of widths and heights, so that you can arrange the containers aesthetically. Other than that, there are no restrictions.

A strawberry pot is called that because it's traditional use is for growing straberries. They are tall, for their width, and shaped somewhat like an amphorea. There are additional, cupped, holes in the sides. This lets you plant in the mouth, and in each of the additional openings. They come in various sizes, identified by gallons capacity. For a kitchen herb garden I'd get at least a 5 gallon size. Twice that is even better.

Cilantro is a semi-hardy plant, that doesn't tolerate heat. You can grow it, but should have planted it in February or March. Too late now, I reckon.

By the by, if you think of lettuce as an herb, you can grow your own the same way; in containers and boxes. Just choose loose leaf or loose-headed types.

Also keep in mind that most garden veggies can be grown in containers. So there's no reason not to have a tomato plant or two, and a couple of chilies, etc.
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post #7 of 24
Oh, I've seen and used those. Never knew what they were called.

I'm going to the nursery in a little while to see what they have to offer and get some ideas based upon their experince in our specific climate.

You've given me some ideas - growing some lettuce in boxes sounds ideal. I am so sick of the lettuce that's available in the stores, and even in the farmers markets. There's nothing better than fresh picked!

post #8 of 24
Lettuce is also a hardy plant, Shel. So keep it in the shade as much as possible.

Even so, you may want to wait until the fall to plant it. But order seed now, cuz in the fall they mostly won't have any.

Meanwhile, Hey, Mudbug! You started this thread. What are you growing this year?
They have taken the oath of the brother in blood, in leavened bread and salt. Rudyard Kipling
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post #9 of 24
Since we don't have space at home, we are sharing garden space with a friend and his wife. They are contributing plants as is Les's brother and his wife. I have already purchased Better Boy, Early Girl, and some Beefsteak tomato plants, Red Beauty peppers, jalapenos, and some pickling cucumber (can't remember the name) that we will plant this weekend. I also want to plant some yellow squash, eggplants, and would love okra if I can find some for this zone. I'd love a garden with various types of butterbeans and peas like my dad in Georgia grows but not sure that will happen this year. Since we're taking a trip to the local nursery this afternoon or tomorrow, I'll have a much better idea then!

Edited to add this: I really want to plant some herbs in planters on my deck. I have 6 planters and will put flowers (petunias and marigolds along with an ivy or something with trailing vines) in a couple. I've always used dried herbs because I've never had fresh ones unless I buy them. I've been buying a lot of cilantro recently but have a hard time finding other fresh ones and they are expensive when I do. lol
post #10 of 24
I just did mine yesterday and got a killer sunburn on my back.

Its nothing big and special but enough to keep me going for the summer.

I got the usual suspects

Tomatos (4 different types)
red peppers
banana peppers
2 other typoes of hot peppers (cant think of them just kidna grabbed them)

I also went herb crazy this year.

post #11 of 24
I'm not much of a farmer so I stick to tomatoes (3 beefsteak, 3 early girls and 3 cherry tomatoes). Also plant 1 sweet basil plant (can't ever use it all but it smells so good and tastes so good on the fresh tomatoes). I've got chives and green onions that come up with no help from me; I have to keep thinning these because they grow like weeds. Will also plant one sweet and one hot pepper.

I've put in some lettuce but the rabbits generally get it as soon as it comes up :lol:
post #12 of 24
I just planted basil & rosemary. My oregano and thyme comes back bigger and better every year.

I plant tomatoes, with little success. They may go in monday.

Last year I did zuccini. Had lots of flowers. I was hesitant to try frying them because I didn't want to mess up any chance of zucchini growing. But I NEVER got one zucchini. Not sure what to try this year as far as zucchinis go

I also get bunnies and squirrels who eat some of the other stuff I've tried. So I give up on it.
post #13 of 24
We planted at least 12 tomatoes on Sat. I don't even remember all the kinds but Early Girl and Super Beefsteak. Then we planted 6 green bell peppers, 4 jalapenos, and 6 Red Beaty bells. To go with that, 4 Burpee Pickle cucumbers, and 4 burpless, 4 eggplants, 1 zucchini, and 2 rows of onions. Today I'll be shopping for some yellow squash and cherry tomatoes. That was all in the garden plot we're sharing at a friend's house. At home, I planted Cinnamon Basil, Greek Oregano, and Sweet Basil in a planter. I wasn't sure about putting those in the ground to winter. In my small plot, I planted lavendar, rosemary, and onion chives. I also want to get some mint, dill, and parsley. I'm still pretty new to gardening in northeastern Indiana and I never grew any herbs in Georgia and neither did my dad.
post #14 of 24
This year I've got a variety of tomatoes, chives, green onions, turnips, beets and swiss chard. The swiss chard is already as tall as me!
post #15 of 24
Ahh...among the weeds I still need to till under...I have...

tomatoes (11 of them!)
green beans
green bell peppers
red bell peppers
banana peppers
apple mint
chocolate mint

I will hopefully be tilling up the other half of my garden sopt this week so I can plant some pumpkins and gourds.
post #16 of 24
I have the usual stuff this year:
yellow wax beans

recurring every year:
black raspberry (Rubus occidentalist)
autumn raspberry
OP strawberry
English thyme
lemon balm
Paulared apples
red currants

new this year
rainbow chard
Brussel sprouts
wild Canadian Ginger

heirloom tomatoes:
Amish Paste OP
Sungold select OP
Stupice OP (extremely early and robust.. already have 3, 1 inch fruits)
Tomatito de Jalapa OP (wild living tomato in the Andies mountains today)
Mémé Beauce (seed were found in an old 100 year abandon house in Beauce, Québec. The plant has been cultivated in Québec for probably 200+ years)
Calabash Purple OP (apparently a species cultivated in Europe around the 15th century).
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post #17 of 24

Can I ask why you follow the names of your heirlooms with "OP?"

By definition, all heirlooms are open pollinated, and shouldn't have to be identified that way.

I'm really intrigued by that Meme Beauce. Can you tell me more about it? Doesn't seem right that 100 year old seed would germinate.

I know some Canadian heirloom-growers who might be interested in getting seed from you, though.
They have taken the oath of the brother in blood, in leavened bread and salt. Rudyard Kipling
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post #18 of 24

Yes I know I wrote OP (open pollinated) but I just copied the titles I had and included the OP.... (I know it's redundant for heirlooms)

I have tried to find a reference for Mémé Beauce but they are all in French because of the locality in Québec.
This is the only reference I found in English: Canadian Heirlooms: Questions - Growing Tomatoes Forum - GardenWeb
The nursery guy told me that if I kept only of flower (the top one) on this plant, the fruit can grow to 1Kg (2lbs) as per the mention on the link above.
French references allude to the story that the seeds were found when an old house was reclaimed by a carpenter. The Beauce is one of the founding regions of the NewWorld (Québec).

My seeds won't be useful next year because the plants I bought are planted close together and will cross pollinate so Mémé Beauce seeds may not hold authentic to the next generation. I purchase many tomatoes this year to try them to decide on a few next year. I will collect seeds and see what new cross pollinated plants come out. Who knows maybe I will create my own line!! (joke)

I should not get credit for these seeds. If you want the reference, I can PM you the person's e-mail addy. Luckily the growers you mentioned are in Canada. (I know for a fact that shipping plant material from Canada to USA is a very difficult task due to the new terrorism laws on imports so this guy may not have a license to ship and I do not know who can)

PM me...
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post #19 of 24
Hi Mudbug;Good thread. I'm like shell as far as space goes. I have a small wood porch about 10 yards long howdever it has to also serve as a place for lounge chair,garbage can and a bbq grill. I went to the dollar store and found some large oblong containers on sale for $3.75 a piece.Then went to a farmers market where I got soil,a six pack of cherry tomatoes and a six pack of habanero peppers. Since then I just got some oregano and a carnation plant. I have room for 2 more containers which I will have basil,lemon basil thym and as KYH suggested a pot of rosemary. I wish I had rose bush,I have a recipe for a Thai rose salad, I made it before and garnished it with a perfect rose on the dish.I was trying to impress a lady friend... SCORE..lol. Any way I hope you all have great success with your gardens,I'm envious...good cookin..cookie
post #20 of 24
bubbamom; may I suggest a pesto sauce for all that unused basil. If you need a recipe post on the recipe thread for it...good cookin ...cookie
post #21 of 24
Our garden was planted pretty late this year owing to our wait for a new shed to be delivered-what's the point of planting when positioning the shed would crush everything.

Anyway, we now have it in, everything is up and lovely and the cutworms are no where to be seen.

Tomatoes-have to use VF varieties as the ground fungus and virus or whatever it is seems to be really bad around here.

Crookneck yellow squash
Oak leaf romaine
Kentucky Wonder beans
Lots of sunflowers-I love to watch the bird eat them

And Okra-two big rows
Neighbors who walk by always ask what it is--not a real popular item in upstate NY

I transplanted my rhubarb and it seems to be doing much better now that the dogs aren't trampling it everyday. But how long before I get nice long stalks? It's been short and stumpy with skinny little stalks for two years now. I've been feeding it nice compost, but is there something better?

The herb garden is doing great but the horseradish is starting to take over. The lemongrass is bushy and beautiful, and of course, there are the usual suspects-basil, thyme, rosemary, sages, oregano, parsley, tarragon, dill, fennel, chives and cilantro.
I'm also growing cloves, marjoram, wormwood, flax, stevia, lemon verbena, lemon balm and southernwood.

I can't seem to get my oregano to winter over. I covered it with straw last fall to protect it from the cold, but still it did not come back. What gives?


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post #22 of 24
I picked my first two banana peppers yesterday! I've had several strawberries and my tomatoes are looking awesome - still green, but about half of my 11 plants have something on them. My blackberries and blueberries aren't quite ripe and it doesn't seem that the birds have gotten to them...yet...

I got my pumpkins planted this weekend - hopefully it isn't too late, I guess we'll see if I have full size pumpkins by Halloween! I have Jack-be Littles and Jack-o'-Lanterns planted.

Oh, and my oregano and mint is doing some wonderful producing!

This is my first time growing carrots - can anyone tell me how you know when they are ready? Do you have to start digging them up to check??
post #23 of 24
I added to my herbs this past weekend. The nursery had everything 50% off and I picked up some cilantro, flat leaf parsley, and dill. We also planted 2 cherry tomatoes and 2 beefsteaks here at home. We have over 20 tomatoes growing at our friend's house so I don't think we'll suffer a shortage this summer!

I still want some mint but the nursery was sold out of it. I haven't been able to find it locally. Maybe I'll have to wait till next year for it.
post #24 of 24
I have raspberries (perrennial) red leaf lettuce and arugala, a few types of tomatoes, including a yellow roma, Italian pole beans, basil, rosemary and French tarragon. Getting some thyme from my mom one of these days. Hesitating on the yellow squash because last year critters ate them up when they were about two inches. Also have some mulberry trees that attract Cedar Waxwings.
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