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Low-tech homemade yoghurt

post #1 of 28
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I started making yoghurt as a personal experiment. I was following the logic that store bought yoghurt was alive with beneficial bacteria and I wanted to coax them into turning milk into yoghurt at home but most of my trials failed. My conclusion is that store bought yoghurt may not be as <healthy/beneficially alive> as I previously thought. One day I purchased some freeze dried yoghurt culture at the supermarket and started making amazing tasting yoghurt. When I tell people I make yoghurt they think I bought a machine to make it, not the case. I share with you my low tech technique.

Equipment: (have very clean)
1.5+ litre (6 cups+) capacity mason jar
accurate thermometer
a spatula
measuring cup
tall glass
Yoghurt culture (1 pouch/5g makes 1 litre of yoghurt)
a 6 pack beer cooler that can hold water (mine is plastic)
Dishwashing detergent (powder).
heavy bottom pot


Recipe:
I blend 500ml (2cups) of 10% cream (half and half) with 500ml (2cups) of 2% milk to make 1 litre (1 pint) (any combination of milk/cream or just plain milk will do). Place in pot and heat over medium-high

In the meantime:
Add 1 tbsp of dishwashing detergent to the glass and fill with hot tap water. Place the thermometer and spatula in the liquid. This glass is your sanitizing liquid for your instruments.

Add 2 tbsp of dishwashing detergent in the mason jar and fill with hot tap water, close and shake so that the liquid has contacted every surface.

To use either the thermometer or spatula, take it out of the glass, rinse under running water and use. Rinse under water before placing in the sanitizing liquid (glass).

Stir the milk occasionally. Heat to 82C (180F). Maintain the heat for 5 minutes. (If you overshoot the temperature, no problem.). When you reach the temperature, empty the sanitizing water from the mason jar into the measuring cup. Rinse the jar thoroughly several times until no residue. Pour the hot milk in the jar, leave the lid ajar, place in the cooler then add cold tap water to the cooler to the same level as the milk. Let stand until the milk has cooled to between 42-45C (108 – 112F) (about 8 min).

Take out the jar, empty the cooler, rinse the measuring cup thoroughly then add ¼ cup approx of milk, add culture and stir. Pour the inoculated milk back in the jar, seal, mix well then place in the cooler. Let the tap water run in the measuring cup in the sink and adjust the tap hence the water temperature using the thermometer to 45C (112F). Add the 45C (112F) water to the cooler to the same level as the milk. Close the cooler.
Let the mixture sit for 4 to 6 hours. (I usually change the water after 2 hours because it often has cooled to below 42C by then.)
Take out of the cooler when the milk has thicken/gelled and refrigerate. If the milk has not gelled after 7 hours discard and try again.

Luc H.
post #2 of 28

i do it easier

and works every time with very little effort.
bought me from moulinex a yogurtmaker. has 6 little glassjars, 200 ml each, with screwtop. machine has a timer, but there are also models without.
at the store buy a very good, plain, Bulgarian type yogurt.
put into each glass a coffee spoon full of yogurt. i than fill it up with 6% milk, no diat for us.
turn it on, the machine keeps the temperature of about 40C and after 8-9h yoghurt is done. close the jars and store the yogurt in the refridgerator.
the last glass you use than always as a 'starter' if you want to make the next patch.
if after some time (10-15 times) the yogurt becomes weaker, just buy a new jogurt and start all over again.
The little yogurtmaker was (here in Moscow) 30 $. it makes now yogurt once a week since 5 years with no hassles.
want to have flavored yogurt or honey. just put one spoon full of whatever you want to into the glasses and than the yogurt on top and milk and the rest...
post #3 of 28
I've made my own yogurt plenty of times. I make a gallon or a half gallon at a time. What I do is bring the milk/cream mixture barely to a boil in a stainless steel pot, let it cool to about 45 C, then use a whisk to mix in 1 cup of room-temperature yogurt per half gallon of milk, wrap the pot thickly with insulating material (towels or whatever), then let it stand 6-8 hours, in a place free of any major vibration (on top of the fridge is too much vibration). I also use Bulgarian style yogurt because I like the flavor that its culture produces.

After 8 hours or whatever, the way you handle the yogurt is important. In India, where I grew up, a kind of clay wok-shaped pan is used for fermemtation. After fermentation, a few slices are made through the pan of yogurt, and some of the whey separates out into the crevices, making the resulting curds thicker. Here in the US, usually a thickening agent is added (pectin or powdered milk or something like that) and no whey is drained off. Easier for mass production, but I prefer letting some whey drain off.

In India, there is a drink, or kind of a milk shake, made with yogurt that hasn't had any whey drained off. They call it Lassi (rhymes with fussy). It's whisked or stirred, and salt and pepper added to it, or sugar and fruit or whatever. For thicker curds, you don't want to disturb it--handle gently.
post #4 of 28
Luc and Yeti, how about making Greek style yogurt. Do you have any advice on this?

Thanks!

Yeti I love yocheese (where much of the whey is drained out and the yogurt becomes the consistency of cream cheese!)
post #5 of 28
You mean tzatziki? Greek style yogurt dressing for gyros?
post #6 of 28
Or if you were talking about just the yogurt itself, the cultures that are used make a difference, and the handling if it. If you are talking about a Greek yogurt culture, I don't know.
post #7 of 28
I make my own yogurt all the time....ussually the kind that you drink...mixed with lemon curd or pureed peaches....very good.....and then the thicker kind too...the thin yogurt I let sit covered with cheese cloth for about 8 hours and the thicker kind I let set for 10 hours....I could post the recipe but I think every one here is pretty much knowlegable in that department.
post #8 of 28

the way i do my yogurt

[QUOTE=bluezebra;179105]Luc and Yeti, how about making Greek style yogurt. Do you have any advice on this?

with the 8% milk it that thick that the spoon says upright in the jar.
maybe if you want to pour yoghurt into a very fine marley cloth and let drain of the liquid for an hour or so. than it will be realy thick.
post #9 of 28
"I was following the logic that store bought yoghurt was alive with beneficial bacteria and I wanted to coax them into turning milk into yoghurt at home but most of my trials failed."

Luc, there are really two types of supermarket yogurt. Most of it, perhaps 99%, has been pasturized and flavored. That will never work, because the bacteria are dead. Even "plain" yogurt usually has been pasturized and sugar added.

If you want to start with store-bought, it has to specifically say "live culture" on the package.

But the freeze-dried culture is cheap enough. And is consistent every time. So that's what we use.
post #10 of 28
There's that "pasturized" word again. Has the yogurt been put out to pasture? Ok aside from that most yogurt here has live cultures.
post #11 of 28
KYHeirloomer I would like to make a yogurt that tastes like greek yogurt (not tzaziki SP? sorry...). It tastes different. Is there a specific culture you use for this and how do you handle it? Do you use cream instead or is it raw goat milk or raw cow milk? I would like the probiotics in it that's for certain!
post #12 of 28
Thread Starter 
Bluezebra,

I found this reference for you (if yogurt cultures are available in your local supermarket I would go for that instead of buying plain yogurt, see my reason below...)
Luc
post #13 of 28
Thread Starter 
KYH,
I knew about the live yogurt versus the pasteurized ones but nevertheless when using live plain yogurt my results were disappointing and inconsistent (sometimes it worked sometimes not).
It almost felt like what Hotchef said :...after some time (10-15 times) the yogurt becomes weaker...
I think live yogurt is pumped, packaged and transported (etc..) that it is probably affected in someway and weaken. Cultures is the way to go.

HoChef,
I posted this recipe because many people that I tell them about making yogurt think you need a machine and are hesitant to make it themselves. This post was to show how low-tech yogurt making can be.

Luc H.
post #14 of 28
Thread Starter 
OregonYeti,

That clay wok-shaped dodad is interesting. I can almost taste the yogurt you are describing.
I have made Lassi before (with mango purée).. great stuff but never had the salt/pepper lassi.

As for Bulgarian yogurt, it is a very thick product that has to do with the culture composition:
The culture I use has a combination of:
Lactobacillus bulgaricus, Streptococcus Thermophilus, Lactobacillus Acidophilus.

L. Bulgarian bacteria converts lactose to lactic acid quickly which sets the yogurt into a firm product. If you replace milk with cream your yogurt will be thicker and creamier.

Luc H
post #15 of 28
Depending on what I will be using the yogurt for, I'll use whole milk (normally), or mix in some cream for a richer, thicker yogurt. When I buy yogurt in a store, it's plain whole milk yogurt, preferably "Bulgarian Style" or "Russian Style". The store-bought flavored yogurt usually has so much sugar in it that I don't care for it.

Brands I like, which may be just local:
Pavel's Russian Style Yogurt (whole milk variety)
Mountain High Original (which also has L. Bulgaricus)
post #16 of 28
Please do! I'm a home cook with no experience but I love yogurt, especially Greek style. I've been buying Fage (pronounced "fay-yeh") but at about $2 per 5 ounce container, it's pricy. I buy the zero fat version, 80 calories for the container.

Tzadziki, if I remember correctly, is actually a sauce made with thick yogurt. It includes cucumber and lots of garlic, with variations that include herbs, onions, etc.

When I was in Greece many years ago I enjoyed the "yaorti mi meli"- yogurt with honey. I got a case of food poisoning and after my guts settled down a bit, that's all I wanted to eat for a couple of days. Poor me.... ;)
post #17 of 28
Where did that littlemama go? I miss her already
post #18 of 28
Hi Mezz,

A couple of weeks ago the tasting booth at the local TJ's was offering TJ's greek style yougurt. It compared favorably to Fage at a substantially lower price. You might want to give it a try if there's a TJ's near you.

Tzadziki is good stuff - cool and refreshing, nice for a summer spread - and I don't even like cucumbers that much.

Shel
post #19 of 28
Now that I have a very nice sourdough starter robust and happy, I'm really wanting to try my hand at fermented foods. Yogurt and brined pickles and veggies top the list. :D

So if I understand correctly, I can just go to WF and get their greek yogurt with active culture or their White Mountain Yogurt with active culture and just use that over and over again to start my yogurt, correct?
post #20 of 28
1 qt of milk, any type
1/4 cup of dry powdered milk for thickening agent if prefered
2 tblspoon of yogurt with live cultures

combine the milk, milk powder if you are using it and heat the mixture to 180 degrees F.

let milk cool to 116 degrees F and add the starter (yogurt with live cultures) and mix well.

keep covered, at 116 degrees F, for at least 6hours or until the consistency is of thick cream.....you can go for as long as 10hours and use a heating pad set on low to maintain temp.

Refrigerate and serve cold. this will keep refrigerated for up to 2 weeks.

save 2-3 tablespoons for your next batch......when your culture stops working, get fresh yogurt from the store with live cultrues and start again.
post #21 of 28
Not quite, Blue.

What you want to do is save about a half cup from each batch you make to be used as the starter for a new batch.
post #22 of 28
Thread Starter 
My fellow forum colleagues please be cautious if you want to start making yogurt.

Make sure your equipment is always clean and sanitized while handling milk because the temperature used to ferment the yogurt is also the perfect temperature for nasty bacteria to grow as well.

Pasteurized milk, in particular, is susceptible of being contaminated with a pathogenic bacteria because it has little or no natural live bacterial flora of its own as a defense.

I have explained in my original post how to stay safe with a sanitizing solution.

Be safe,
Luc H
post #23 of 28
Lots of good advice on this thread.

Has anyone used a home yogurt maker? It heats to a set temperature and comes with little cups to put the mixture in. This one is available at Williams Sonoma for $39.95 US:

They also sell freeze-dried yogurt starter, 10 packets for $19.50 US. Each packet has 1.75 ounces.
post #24 of 28
Thanks to all of you! I do think I'm going to try it soon. I may do a test with my heating pad and my tiny crock pot I use to keep queso cheese hot to see how hot it heats some water or milk.

Mezza I like the looks of that and may see if I can save my pennies for it! I love the idea of a thermostat!

Another idea I'm wondering about it using an electric frying pan with a thermostat control and a hand or dish towel place between the bottom and the yogurt container? Maybe will do an experiment about that too...

Luc thanks for the info about sanitation. That is exactly why I've always been afraid to do it before. It took a huge walk of faith to get past the Leukonostoc phase of Sir Stinky (my sourdough starter as I call him) and into the pleasant smell phase of him. I was skeered the whole time that I would be poisoning us all! I would love to make fresh fermented kraut and kimchee and pickled veggies but have been askeered of that too! Will start slow with the next step of yogurt. It's so dam expensive to buy in the store!!! :-/
post #25 of 28
Thread Starter 
Mezzaluna,

almost $20 for yogurt starter cultures Wow that sounds expensive?!

I purchased cultures from an industrial source for $30 that can inoculate 100 liters of milk.
Even the cultures I buy at the supermarket is $4 for 6 packets of 5grams. Each packets can make 1 liter (1 pint) of yogurt.

Luc H
post #26 of 28
With yogurt, sanitary conditions are not as important as, say, making beer or canned stuff. If you leave milk out it gets sour and it has to smell and/or taste bad before it's a health risk. Yogurt might not taste as good if you don't make it properly, but no worries about salmonella or botulism or anything like that. Unless you make it really wrong.

I'll try yogurt starter cultures. When you make a batch of yogurt using some of your last batch as starter, it doesn't taste quite as good sometimes. Getting starter culture would avoid this.
post #27 of 28
Thread Starter 
Hi OregonYeti,

(I feel this is too important not to respond)

Pasteurized milk is a low acid and high protein containing food before becoming yogurt (high acid) so has the potential of being dangerously contaminated by manipulation. see: http://www.fcs.msue.msu.edu/ff/pdffiles/foodsafety2.pdf

(Unspoiled from healthy cows) unpasteurized raw milk will sour into harmless curds if left on the counter because it is teaming with harmless even beneficial bacteria. Pasteurized milk having lost most of its indigenous bacteria is potentially susceptible to pathogenic bacterial contamination. Although the pathogenic bacteria may die off once the milk becomes acid turning to yogurt their toxins may not be destroyed and can be harmful.

In my recipe, the initial heating to 82C (180F) is a pasteurizing step then the sanitation solution for instruments just makes any subsequent manipulation more safe.

I have made beer from grain and mash for many years. Being high in carbohydrate and in water (low protein) the worst beer can turn is being spoiled by wild yeast or mold. None of which is life threatening. High protein foods like milk, meat and the like are potentially dangerous for a host of bacteria.

Bread, high in carbs, low in water and protein are almost always safe although like homebrews, not always edible.

The main problem with cans is botulism because of the provenance of the produce (cultivated in earth) which, strive in low acidity and lack of oxygen.

Luc H.
post #28 of 28
Right, botulism with an anaerobic environment. The safety precautions you mention are important. Don't can your yogurt and, let it breathe at least a little bit, but keep it warm as it ferments.

I bring my milk to barely a boil, (hotter than needed) before making yogurt with it. I haven't used raw milk and I probably won't try it.
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