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post #31 of 79
Sorry, not original thoughts on my part. This was sent to me by a friend a while ago.

I do have a quite funny one on Martha NOT coming to Thanksgiving dinner, however.

:D
post #32 of 79
Lets's have it, Nancya.


post #33 of 79
Kyle,
I agree...that was good!
How are the boys?
post #34 of 79
The boys are well. I posted their lastest progeny on Monday. I have one from this morning I will post tonight along with pictures of Mary Agnes.
post #35 of 79
nancya... hats off to you. those were very funny indeed.


about martha "borrowing" recipes from other people: we all do that in one way or another. no one is going to reinvent the wheel. everything has been done by someone sometime ago.
post #36 of 79
Thread Starter 
Again, as I stated in an earlier post -- I know ideas are borrowed from other people. I said my complaint was that Martha acts like they are her own ideas -- like they are her little brainchild. Example -- she was doing a show on that dirtcake -- you know for kids -- the chocolate pudding, crushed oreos, and worms on top. I have seen it a million times. On the show, she was talking like she and her food staff had made the idea up. It was just too ridiculous. There is a difference between being infuluenced by someone's work, and just plain taking credit for an idea. Ya know??
Another example is how she started arranging fruit and flowers together. This has been done forever. Again, she was talking like she had *invented* this idea. It is one thing if she just takes ideas here and there and uses them, it is another to take credit for ideas that have been around forever. That is my complaint -- not that she is influenced by the work of others (I know we all are influenced by the work of others).
Whew!
post #37 of 79
Yes Nancy don't stop now! I nver heard the Thanksgiving story. I know of a Chrsitmas story: Why I want to slap Martha. I didn't write it.


Dear Santa,

I rarely ask for much. This year is no exception. I don't need diamond earrings, handy slicer-dicers or comfy slippers. I only want one little thing, and I want it deeply.

I want to slap Martha Stewart.

Now, hear me out, Santa. I won't scar her or draw blood or anything. Just one good smack, right across her smug little cheek. I get all cozy inside just thinking about it.

Don't grant this wish just for me, do it for thousands of women across the country. Through sheer vicarious satisfaction, you'll be giving a gift to us all. Those of us leading average, garden variety lives aren't concerned with gracious living. We feel pretty good about ourselves if our paper plates match when we stack them on the counter, buffet-style for dinner.

We're tired of Martha showing us how to make centerpieces from hollyhock dipped in 18 carat gold. We're plumb out of liquid gold. Unless it's of the furniture polish variety.

We can't whip up Martha's creamy holiday sauce, spiced with turmeric. Most of us can't even say turmeric, let alone figure out what to do with it.

OK, Santa, maybe you think I'm being a little harsh. But I'll bet with all the holiday rush you didn't catch that interview with Martha in last week's USA Weekend. I'm surprised there was enough room on the page for her ego.

We discovered that not only does Martha avoid take-out pizza (she's only ordered it once), she refuses to eat it cold (No cold pizza? Is Martha Stewart Living?) When it was pointed out that she could microwave it, she replied, "I don't have a microwave."

The reporter, Jeffrey Zaslow, noted that she said this "in a tone that suggests you shouldn't either." Well lah-dee-dah. Imagine that, Santa!

That lovely microwave you brought me years ago, in which I've learned to make complicated dishes like popcorn and hot chocolate, has been declared undesirable by Queen Martha. What next? The coffee maker?

In the article, we learned that Martha has 40 sets of dishes adorning an entire wall in her home. Forty sets. Can you spell "overkill"? And neatly put away, no less. If my dishes make it to the dishwasher, that qualifies as "put away" in my house!

Martha tells us she's already making homemade holiday gifts for friends. "Last year, I made amazing silk-lined scarves for everyone," she boasts. Not just scarves, mind you. Amazing scarves. Martha's obviously not shy about giving herself a little pat on the back. In fact, she does so with such frequency that one has to wonder if her back is black and blue.

She goes on to tell us that "homemaking is glamour for the 90s," and says her most glamorous friends are "interested in stain removal, how to iron a monogram, and how to fold a towel." I have one piece of advice, Martha: "Get new friends."

Glamorous friends fly to Paris on a whim. They drift past the Greek Islands on yachts, sipping champagne from crystal goblets. They step out for the evening in shimmering satin gowns, whisked away by tuxedoed chauffeurs. They do not spend their days pondering the finer art of toilet bowl sanitation.

Zaslow notes that Martha was named one of America's 25 most influential people by Time magazine (nosing out Mother Theresa, Madeline Albright and Maya Angelou, no doubt).

The proof of Martha's influence: after she bought white-fleshed peaches in the supermarket, Martha says, "People saw me buy them. In an instant, they were all gone." I hope Martha never decides to jump off a bridge.

A guest in Martha's home told Zaslow how Martha gets up early to rollerblade with her dogs to pick fresh wild blackberries for breakfast. This confirms what I've suspected about Martha all along: She's obviously got too much time on her hands. Teaching the dogs to rollerblade. What a show off.

If you think the dogs are spoiled, listen to how Martha treats her friends: She gave one friend all 272 books from the Knopf Everyman Library. It didn't cost much. Pocket change, really. Just $5,000. But what price friendship, right?

When asked if others should envy her, Martha replies, "Don't envy me. I'm doing this because I'm a natural teacher. You shouldn't envy teachers. You should listen to them." Zaslow must have slit a seam in Martha's ego at this point, because once the hot air came hissing out, it couldn't be held back.

"Being an overachiever is nothing despicable. It is only admirable. Never lower your standards," says Martha. And of her Web Page on the Internet, Martha declares herself an "important presence" as she graciously helps people organize their sad, tacky little lives.

There you have it, Santa. If there was ever someone who deserved a good smack, it's Martha Stewart. But I bet I won't get my gift this year. You probably want to smack her yourself
post #38 of 79
Oh, my, Iza...if nothing else, Poor Martha has inspired a tremendous number of parodies. Okay, the Thanksgiving story [also not an original]:

A Change in Plans

Martha Stewart will not be dining with us this Thanksgiving. I’m telling you in advance,
so don’t act surprised. Since Ms. Stewart won’t be coming, I’ve made a few small
changes:

Our sidewalk will not be lined with homemade, paper bag luminaries. After a trial run, it
was decided that no matter how cleverly done, rows of flaming lunch sacks do not have
the desired welcoming effect.

The dining table will not be covered with expensive linens, fancy china or crystal
goblets. If possible, we will use dishes that match and everyone will get a fork. Since
this IS Thanksgiving, we will refrain from using the plastic Peter Rabbit plate and the
Santa napkins from last Christmas.

Our centerpiece will not be the tower of fresh fruit and flowers that I promised. Instead,
we will be displaying a hedgehog-like decoration handcrafted from the finest
construction paper. The artist assures me it is a turkey.

We will be dining fashionably late. The children will entertain you with you wait. I’m
sure they will be happy to share every choice comment I have made regarding
Thanksgiving, pilgrims, and the turkey hotline. Please remember that most of these
comments were made at 5:00 AM upon discovering that the turkey was still hard
enough to cut diamonds. As an accompaniment to the children’s recital, I will play a
recording of tribal drumming. If the children should mention that I don’t own a recording
of tribal drumming, or that tribal drumming sounds suspiciously like a frozen turkey in a
clothes dryer, ignore them. They are lying.

We toyed with the idea of ringing a dainty silver bell to announce the start of our feast.
In the end, we chose to keep our traditional method. We’ve also decided against a
formal seating arrangement. When the smoke alarm sounds, please gather around the
table and sit where you like. In the spirit of harmony, we will ask the children to sit at a
separate table. In a separate room. Next door.

Now, I know you have all seen pictures of one person carving a turkey in front of a
crowd of appreciative onlookers. This will not be happening at our dinner. For safety
reasons, the turkey will be carved in a private ceremony. I stress “private” meaning: Do
not, under any circumstances, enter the kitchen to laugh at me. Do not send small,
unsuspecting children to check on my progress. I have an electric knife. The turkey is
unarmed. It stands to reason that I will eventually win. When I do, we will eat.

Before I forget, there is one last change. Instead of offering a choice between 12
different scrumptious deserts, we will be serving the traditional pumpkin pie, garnished
with whipped cream and small fingerprints. You will still have a choice: take it or leave
it.

Martha Steward will not be dining with us this Thanksgiving. She probably won’t come
next year either.

I am thankful.
post #39 of 79
What is they say Nancy? Talk about me in good or bad terms but talk about me? Must be true for Martha.

I love your Thanksgiving story!

[ August 03, 2001: Message edited by: Iza ]
post #40 of 79
Love everyone's stories!
I have tried a couple of recipes at her website and 4 out of five have been horrible. I've learned to take note of her people's ideas and decorating techniques and leave the recipes behind.
post #41 of 79
In all fairness to Martha, I should say that her hors d'oeuvres book is very good.
post #42 of 79
I've never tried any recipes from her website, but all of the ones I've used from the magazine turn out nicely. Could they be editing the recipes ingredients/instructions for space constraints?
post #43 of 79
Her website has all her recipes from her more current baking book. Plus many from the magazine although certainly not all of them and they aren't edited at all for space from what I can tell. I don't recognize any from her earilier work (like from Entertaining or quick cook) which I agree were qustionable at times. She credits recipes from contests she's held and from freinds (personal and professional) and many of those are nice.


I'm just so curious which recipes you all are using that were bombs? I can only think of a couple that I've tried that weren't great...but certainly less then from other sources.

I'd love to talk specific recipes if anyone is interested?? We might be able to save time experimenting or we might see a pattern of which recipes seem to work or not...

I swear to you all I've used ones from her that turned out great! I can think of a couple examples where I added some extract or baked at a different temp. then written (but only obvious changes anyone might have made)....I've made alot of her cookies, frozen items, frostings, fillings, techniques...not as many cakes, are her cakes what are failing for you?

I'd love to hear which recipes failed for you and I'd be happy to tell you which ones worked for me, if anyone is interested?
post #44 of 79
DeBord,
I think that is a wonderful idea!
post #45 of 79
I have Pies and Tarts from Martha and made several things from the book. I must admit that nothing bombed!

I also tried some of her cookies and a few other things from her website and all worked very nicely.

Her latest hors d'oeuvres book is a gem.

Seems to me, even if most dislike her style, a great deal of her recipes work!
post #46 of 79
Good idea Wendy! I'll stick to cookie recipes for today, it's all I can remember doing from her show.

One of her recipe that I did not like was the chocolate cookie recipe who won her cookie contest. It seemed like a dried brownie to me.

On the other hand, I love her crackle chocolate cookie is great but that was from her tv show. It's now part of my classic cookie list.

I’m not crazy about her sugar cookie. It tastes better when made with brown sugar.

The pistachio shortbread. It cooked all right but it is such a greasy dough. If I ever make it again, I'll reduce the amount of butter.

Voilà, for now anyway.
post #47 of 79
Man I've posted twice on this topic today and neither went through. Let's see again......
post #48 of 79
As a matter of interest, I collect 19th century household books. I wonder what people will think of poor Martha's tips in a hundred years?

From the Physician in the Home:

"To remove Proud Flesh - pulverise loaf sugar very fine and apply it to the part afflicted."

"To prevent choking - break an egg in a cup and give it to the person to swallow. The white of the egg seems to catch around the obstacle and remove it."

Or for helpful decorating tips, remember:

"No material is too common to be a medium for ornamentation. ...Pincushions, to be hung on gentlemen's looking-glasses, are made of swan-skin in the shape of a rabbit and well stuffed."

Or for self care, how about shampoo made of olive oil, spirits of ammonia, alcohol and "soft water?"

And Martha doesn't even have to try to figure out what a "fast oven" is.
post #49 of 79
O.k. I'll try again.......

Just cookie recipes that I've tried and thought were pretty good:

1. Her 3 Macaroon recipes. I use regular coconut since I don't have a source for unsweetened. People go crazy for the chocolate chip coconut macaroons.
2. Peanut Butter Chocolate Chunk. Excellent!
3. Ornamental Gingerbread. It's very edible and the perfect dough. I use it for all my houses and I do over 50 a year.
4. Cookie-press dough. I do add almond or lemon emlusion to her recipe.
5. Shortbread wedges. From her baking book, they taste best after they age a couple days.
6. Oatmeal crisps. From her baking book.
7. Her checkerboard cookies are nicer than anyone elses for that genra. I add almond extract to it.
8. Pistachio shortbreads. Hum, I liked them, but they weren't a huge seller.
9. Meringue bones. From her Halloween sweet table. What a brilliant way to use meringue!!!
10. Chocolate kisses.


I would agree that her lime sables were horrible, way to tart! I also didn't like her mocha shortbread from her baking book, which was very bitter.

Anyone else have any cookie recipes they've made from her before we go on to other items?
post #50 of 79
Thread Starter 
W. DeBord

Thanks for sharing the recipes that have worked for you. Now, I have to admit that I do have a recipe for Scottish Shortbread from Martha (You divide it into 3 parts and add orange to one, chocolate chips to another, etc) and bake it in 3 9" pans. That recipe did turn out great.
Thanks for the tip about the Lime Sables -- I did want to try that one a while ago. The disappointing this is -- they always look so good in the pictures.
That is what I love about the epicurious site -- you can real all of the reviews before you make something!
post #51 of 79
Oh wow, MaryeO! I'm going to have to try that with my depressed clients! Never know which of those old methods might work!
post #52 of 79
Didn't Saturday Night Live do a parady on her?

I've worked thru alot of her recipes in her dessert book here are my picks (I made many of them regualars for me, they all worked great):

1234 lemon cake, the curd is terrific and my favorite!
Warm Chocolate cakes worked quite well.Although it's for home cooks not to be mass produced.
Chocolate-Almond torte, great, simple...
Pear upside down cake, too strong, pass.
Applesauce cake, Amish do this better.
Cranberry up-side down cake, good but tart.
Cafe' gelatin, so-so.
Buttermilk panna cotta, excellent, very light.
Summer pudding, good.
Pumpkin flan, excellent.
Chocolate macadamia tart, so so.
Plum Tart, excellent!
Mini Lemon-meringue pie, very good.
Deepest-dish apple pie, pretty good.
Chocolate pecan pie, good but not great.
Roasted S.b. Napoleon, Excellent techinque with the puff pastry! Pastry cream horrible!
Carmelized-peach melba, good.
Frozen Tiramisu, great, I used vanilla and one coffee ice cream!
Mint c.c. cake, excellent.
Almond crunch cake, excellent, excellent technique with the sugared almonds!!!!
Pear sorbet, great.
Semifreddo al caffe', MOST EXCELLENT!!!!!!!!My favorite pick from that book.

From what to have for dinner, book:

Mango with warm pinappple ginger sauce, excellent!
Summer berry gratin, OUTSTANDING!!!!
Sangria Soup, excellent!
Peach Shortcakes, terrific.
Berry fool, quick and good.
Bananas in brown sugar, a classic always.
Pineapple in brown sugar, also good.


Have any of you worked any other recipes from these books? What did you like and what bombed?
post #53 of 79
My favourite dessert is almond tarte, Add some pears and I am in heaven. When I read your post Wendy I must say the almond & chocolate tarte intrigued me. If you have the time would you mind sharing that recipe?

Thanks!
post #54 of 79
Who forces all of you to gorge on M.S.? I guess I'm glad that I never watched her. :rolleyes:
post #55 of 79
Saturday Night live brought us -

"Martha Stewart's Topless Christmas"

Martha was the only one topless. I twas very funny :)
post #56 of 79
I've only seen a few shows (she's on when I'm at work), but perhaps that's why I still like her work (I don't see her, I read her stuff). But she makes a great subject for parody, I've seen a couple funny skits on her...

When you have to make as many different items and constant sweet tables as I do (soon to be, did), you'd be suprised the volume of recipes you can go thru.

Choc. Almond Torte (it's not a tart): Kind of a cross between a brownie and a flourless chocolate torte in texture...

1 c. butter
8 oz. semi sweet chopped

Melt together over double boiler.

5 yolks
1/4 c. br. sugar
3/4 c. sugar
1 tsp. vanilla

Whip together till light. Then fold in melted chocolate mixture.

1/4 c. ground almonds
1/2 c. cake flour

fold in to chocolate & egg mixture.

5 whites whipped with a pinch of tartar. When full fold into above mixture.

Pour into a 8" (I use a 9") springform that's buttered and lined with buttered parchment. Bake in a 375 oven aprox. 50 min., take it out while there's still some crumbs clinging.

I add a tbsp. of almond emulsion to the cake. The recipe has a chocolate glaze to finish it, but I frost it with ganche sometimes with a splash of amaretto in it. Oh, decorate it upside down for a neat apearance.

P.S. From her Pies and Tarts book the pear tart with almonds is pretty good too. I use almond flour for a better texture, a splash of almond extract and top the tart with sliced almonds before baking. Serve it with cream anglaise, UMM...
post #57 of 79
Oh, just in case I haven't over dosed you enough...I forgot she had a much better pear tart recipe in her magazine in the fold out area. It was called "thin pear tart". It had a paper thin crust, I spread it with almond paste mixed with vanilla cream (for danish) (her recipe didn't include this step), then thin slices of fresh pears soaked in amaretto. Dust the top with cinnamon sugar baked....and it's wonderful!
post #58 of 79
You're right Wendy.

The reason why I haven't OD'd on her is probably 'cause I don't watch her on TV either. And I purchase about 3 of her magazines a year; and that's a real maximum!

Thanks for perfecting the pear tart recipe...

:p
post #59 of 79
Thanks for the recipe Wendy. In my head I had envisioned an almond tart with chocolate incorporated in it. Your torte does look interesting I will give it a try.

I do recall a very thin lemon tart in one of her Christmas issue but I am not familiar with her thin pear tart, in which issue is it?

I must confessed, I am a magazine junkie. I do control myself fairly well except in December which is magazine heaven for me. It's then that I buy, among many other, Martha's magazine…
post #60 of 79
Boy, I can't remember when it was in the magazine. I've been using it for about a 1 1/2 years now.

I also buy alot of December issues. Every year I get sucked into the "christmas cookie" issues thinking I'll find something new to add to my list of regulars. But honestly I've only found a couple over the last few years that were worth adding. Its totally the same recipes over and over. I think that's Good Housekeeping who publishes a couple of cookies magazines, wish someone would tell them it's time for something new.
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