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post #1 of 26
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I have a recipe book published in new zealand (wish I'd noticed that prior, but the recipes are good...) anyway, I am looking at a scallop recipe that calls for "mixed spices".

Peachy. Anyone have any idea what their idea of "mixed spices" is over there? Or any natives on the board? Please? Is it just a generic seafood mix or does it mean something particular to a kiwi?
post #2 of 26
I found the following on Recipezaar.com

Kitchen Dictionary: mixed spice
mixed spice

Mixed Spice in New Zealand is a pre packed spice containing the following: coriander, cinnamon, pimento, ginger, cassia, nutmeg and cloves.
plural: mixed spice

Ingredient
Season: available year-round
post #3 of 26
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on scallops???
post #4 of 26
Is "pimento" what is also called "allspice"?
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post #5 of 26
I believe Pimento is black pepper corns
post #6 of 26
What is cassia?
post #7 of 26
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pimento is not the red stuff?
post #8 of 26
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any suggestions for a readily available american substitute for this mysterious "mixed spice" that might work? it is a grilled scallop that is wrappe in a thin slice of carrot & zucchini & the spice was basically used as a rub.
post #9 of 26
Use garam masala.
post #10 of 26
pimento is more than likely paprika.
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post #11 of 26
Cinnamon ....

Shel
post #12 of 26
Doubtful - pimento is probably paprika in this case.

Shel
post #13 of 26
As NZ has lots of British roots, I am interested in their use of the term 'mixed spice' which seems to be slightly different to that used in the UK - as you would not traditionally use 'mixed spice' for a savoury dish.

Here we use mixed spice in sweet puddings and pies - espcially things like traditional Christmas Puds, Christmas cakes or steamed suet puddings. I looked on the container in my pantry and its ingredients are listed as powdered cinnamon, ginger,cloves, nutmeg and allspice.

I remember having a discussion with an American friend who asked me for my Christmas pudding recipe and was similarly stumped by 'mixed spice' - she said it sounded like something she used called apple pie seasoning (or similar name)- I don't know if that's true as I have never used it!
post #14 of 26
Pimento means allspice which fits well in this ingredient statement.

http://wwwchem.uwimona.edu.jm:1104/l...s/pimento.html

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post #15 of 26
I guess there are a number of definitions for Pimento. I see from some posts here that it is another name for Allspice. Hmmm, OK.

I buy pimentos in a jar at the grocery store and sometimes if I'm lucky I can find fresh pimentos and they are small, sweet red peppers.

Being British born I know the mixed spice that Ishbel describes. But it is possible the Kiwis have their own version and why not? Either way, like someone said, on scallops???

Jock
post #16 of 26
You'd have to use a light hand to not overpower them, but the sweetness of scallops and those "sweet" spices might work. Just a touch though.

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post #17 of 26
Allspice = pimento bush berries = Jamaican pepper. Tastes like cinnamon plus nutmeg plus cloves. Its mostly sold pre-ground here.

Mixed spice is great in baking - fills the house with a wonderful aroma. Good with baked apples too

Cassia is the bark of the Chinese Cinnamon tree. Different from regular cinnamon, which is native to Ceylon. Its not got such a "cinnamon" flavour. It's a cheaper ingredient sometimes used to bulk out real cinnamon.
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post #18 of 26
I was at the grocery store yesterday and there on the shelf, as always is a jar of pimientos - the little sweet red peppers.

But wait! Are we talking about two different things here? The product I am seeing is Pimiento (Spanish for pepper) and we started talking about Pimento; notice the second "i" is missing.

So, are pimiemto and pimento the same thing with a typo or are they in fact two different things?

Jock
post #19 of 26
Jock:
Pimento means Allspice when referring to a spice. I urge you to read this reference:Jamaican Pimento

Excerpt (which may explain some confusion): The name Pimento originated from the Spanish word "pimienta" (pepper or peppercorn). To most English speaking people the tree is called "pimento" and the berries "allspice". The name allspice originated from the popular notion that the pimento berry contains the characteristic flavour and aroma of cloves, nutmeg, cinnamon and pepper, all combined in one spice.


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post #20 of 26
Pimentos are also the red sweet pepper used in olives
post #21 of 26
Mixed spice is a commercially available spice mix. The nearest equivalent available in US is apple-pie spice [penzeys - Cinnamon, nutmeg, mace and cloves] or pumpkin pie spice [penzeys - China cinnamon, allspice, nutmeg, ginger, mace, cloves]

Common ingredients:
coriander - seeds of cilantro plant
cinnamon - bark of Ceylon or real cinnamon [more common in AU/NZ cooking]
pimento - allspice [seeds of pimento]
ginger - powdered root
cassia - Chinese, Saigon, and Korintje cinnamon [more common in US cooking]
nutmeg - powdered seed
cloves - flower buds

Mixed spice or allspice is common in savoury dishes - the warm spicy tones bring out the flavours without overpowering the dish ..
post #22 of 26
This coming from someone from the land Down Under... (I think?).

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post #23 of 26

its actually a mix of sweet spices

nutmeg, cinnamon and allspice , its mainly used in sweet dishes, cakes, pies, cookies , etc so if you want to make a mix its a 1/3 , 1/3, 1/3 mix , the
closest thing in america would be either pumpkin pie spice or apple pie spice

if you google Greggs and new zealand it will give you a great product range and show you what you can use mixed spice for
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post #24 of 26
Being from New Zealand and a professional chef,

Tessa does pimento mean allspice? (this is the lingering question in this post)

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post #25 of 26

hi Luc

allspice is a blended mix thats a bit more seasoned t han mixed spice
so yes the pimento is a mild peppery flavour and its in the all spice, somebody mentioned cassia as well thats a different form of cinamon ( i think )

i can get back to you all later with an exact ingrediants list on the allspice if t hat helps. i am just off to work now but can find out this evening
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post #26 of 26

i was looking at a different mixed spice mix

there are two kinds of mixed spice , the main one is a blended sweet flavour its ground to a fine powder its dried too. it has corander cinnamon, pimento (allspice) ginger , cassia, nutmegs, and cloves , , its mainly used to flavour , fruit cakes, cakes , apple dishes, cookies, candies middle eastern food. , hot puddings like a steamed pudding etc

It has a sweet spicey flavour with out being hot or overpowering
it also goes really nicely with mixed herbs which is a dried mix of thyme,rosemary,marjoram,basil,oregano,sage in a bread and onion stuffing for roast chicken.

the one i use most often is a mix of cinammon , nutmeg, and alspice which is the one i gave you the ratio of earlier. its great stuff.

In case you dont know what allspice is , heres an ingrediant list

And Yes Luc Allspice is referred to as pimento , (meaning a mix of peppers) it has cinnamon, nutmeg,cloves and a either whole or ground dried peppercorn berries.

Its used to flavour meats, gravies, sauces, pickles , and relishes as well as hamburger meat, deserts, cookes , pastries and beverages, a little pinch of it gives a hot chocolate a nice tasty wee zing

hope this helps
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