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post #1 of 21
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Some months ago I read an article that stated that the act of shopping released endorphins and stimulated the pleasure center in the brains of many people. I've been trying to find a citation or article about that and haven't had any luck. Does anyone know about this? It's such a pleasurable experience whenever I visit the farmers' market, as I did this afternoon. Could shopping for produce be a cure for depression and other such problems? :crazy: :roll:
post #2 of 21
I have no serious research behind me, but i think that in particular women, who evolved as gatherers (couldn;t go hunting with babies and all) had to spend many hours a day on the lookout for stuff to eat there in the wild, when we were wearing skins and living in caves or wherever we lived. My hypothesis explains why women like shopping and men can;t do more than one thing at a time (and of course, these are overlapping groups and many men can indeed do many things at a time, and many women hate shopping - what i mean is on the whole, like men tend to be taller than women but many women are taller than many men, it may be an overall tendency).

Shopping involved scanning the environment for things that "look good" - berries that are edible, plants that have good edible roots, grains that could be put into a porridge, etc. It's highly gratifying when hyou find something. I think, back then, probably this great satisfaction and tirelessness in looking made the difference between someone spending enough time "shopping" and having enough food in the end, and soemone getting bored and not getting enough. Those who got enough lived long enough to reproduce and their children survived childhood.

For men, who had to hunt all day, probably distractions and thiniking about anything but their eye on the prey would have meant coming home empty-handed. I try to think of that when my husband is in the kitchen and the sauce is burning and i come in and ask why he didn;t notice "I was on the phone!" (I think, what if you had two kids running around getting into trouble, the phone ringing, the doorbell too, and the sauce burning as you tried to peel the potatoes?)

Unfortunately, shel, i don;t have any bibliography for you but if i run actross some i'll let you know. I imagine in the field of evolutionary psychology you might find something.
"Siduri said, 'Gilgamesh, where are you roaming? You will never find the eternal life that you seek...Savour your food, make each of your days a delight, ... let music and dancing fill your house, love the child who holds you by the hand and give your wife pleasure in your embrace.'"
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post #3 of 21
Er... I like shopping. Food, clothes, furniture, etc. Perhaps I'm more higly evolved...:D
post #4 of 21
I'm living proof.

I'm a male...and when I have anxiety, boredom, or going to be alone (which couples with anxiety) my first instinct is to shop and spend money (or binge on fast food).

I USED to be one of those "have to get a new package in the mail every day" guys.....I've curbed that.

even in the supermarket, fiance yells because I take a long time "shopping"
post #5 of 21
Since this is posted in the "Food and Cooking Questions and Discussion" forum, I'll limit my response to those topics.

I LOVE browsing in grocery stores, small food markets and anyplace that sells anything related to food and cooking. When I go to high-end places, I especially enjoy looking at produce and meats. To me, that's as interesting as browsing in a jewelry store is for some people. :D

When I visit other cities or countries, I love to see what's unique to that area. When abroad I look to see if items from the U.S. are sneaking onto the local shelves. For instance, when I was in Paris in 1998, I was surprised to see Tex-Mex food on the shelves (I think it was Old El Paso products). Twelve years earlier, those items were unavailable.
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post #6 of 21
I'm probably a retailer's worse nightmare. I can spend hours in a cookware store, and then leave without spending a dime. All the while, the sales staff is 'at the ready' in case I might finally have a question or want to make a purchase. It's all part of the "buying process" for me to look at things, handle them, consider if this is really what I want, or if it will really get used once I have it. Many times it is weeks or even months until I actually get an item (if I get it at all). One of the reasons is that my kitchen is very small, so before I bring in anything new, I have to first figure out where it will go, or what other item(s) will have to be eliminated to make room for it. This system works for me, and keeps me from accumulating too many things that don't get used.
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post #7 of 21
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I'm pretty much the same way, although the sales staff is told that I'm just looking. When the decision is finally made, it's one that I know I can live with for a very, very long time
post #8 of 21
amazingrace and shel, I'm the same way. I'll spend weeks and months learning about a product before I purchase. It took me an entire year to finally decide to buy a few All Clad pans. But I couldn't be happier with my purchases and I know they will all last a lifetime in my kitchen.

I'm glad to know I'm not the only one who takes time to shop. :chef:

Emily
post #9 of 21
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I'm still vacillating between a 1984 Ford Galaxie and a 1984 Chevy Impala. I prefer the radio knobs on the Chevy but the Ford has better turn signals <sigh>
post #10 of 21
For any reasonably large purchase (microwave, fridge, couch, etc) I feel i have to see every possible model on the market before i can decide (the next one might just be the perfect one) - i guess it also extends the shopping time.
About men shopping, i know, of course, just like there are plenty of women taller than plenty of men, there are plenty of men who like to shop and plenty of women who don;t. And i don't mean my hypothesis to be taken quite so seriously, but asking my husband, he says he likes to shop too, but he likes to go into a store knowing exactly what he wants, going to the exact place he knows he'll find it, and buying it. More like hunting, to my mind, than gathering. What i enjoy is the browsing.
"Siduri said, 'Gilgamesh, where are you roaming? You will never find the eternal life that you seek...Savour your food, make each of your days a delight, ... let music and dancing fill your house, love the child who holds you by the hand and give your wife pleasure in your embrace.'"
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"Siduri said, 'Gilgamesh, where are you roaming? You will never find the eternal life that you seek...Savour your food, make each of your days a delight, ... let music and dancing fill your house, love the child who holds you by the hand and give your wife pleasure in your embrace.'"
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post #11 of 21
[quote=siduri;238621 [B]but he likes to go into a store knowing exactly what he wants, going to the exact place he knows he'll find it, and buying it.[/[/B]quote]

I wouldn't call that shopping either. This is just another example of how men interpret concepts differently from women.

If my hubby were asked if he knows how to cook, he would state emphatically that he does. Is boiling water in the microwave actually considered cooking? ... and oh, I forgot he can fry an egg (never mind that will have more black lace than a Victoria's Secret catalog). :look: But this is off topic. sorry.
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post #12 of 21
...... egg with more black lace than a Victoria's Secret catalog

now _that's_ a line worth filching <g>

otherwise, "compulsive shopping" is sorta' mebbe' might be could resemble an "addiction" so a search for research on addiction and endorphin might be fruitful....
post #13 of 21
Well, so could posting on this website, but getting pleasure out of doing something doesn;t constitute an addiction and addictive shopping is different from shopping shopping. I don;t mean overspending and getting into debt and maxing out credit cards and i don;t mean compulsive shopping that only brings on more desire to shop. I mean the relaxing effect going around looking in shops and picking nice things, something that most women experience, most that i know, anyway. (not all, for sure)

When i travel i like to look in stores and buy little things i can;t find when i'm home, it gives me some kind of calm pleasure, and it's not tied to spending money because when i've travel to nature places, i like to pick dried flowers to take home. It amounts to the same thing. Probably some atavistic browsing instinct, looking for the roots and berries. I even enjoy the weekly supermarket shopping, though in many ways it's a huge chore and eats up quite a bit of my free time here, where the store is far away, overcrowded and takes a good 3 to 4 hours, home to home, not counting putting stuff away.

Anyway, avoid searches for addiction and endorphins on internet, and stick to the professional journals, there's enough crap science out there on internet where anyone can claim to be an expert. (sorry, when i'm not cooking, one of my other identities is psych professor)
"Siduri said, 'Gilgamesh, where are you roaming? You will never find the eternal life that you seek...Savour your food, make each of your days a delight, ... let music and dancing fill your house, love the child who holds you by the hand and give your wife pleasure in your embrace.'"
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"Siduri said, 'Gilgamesh, where are you roaming? You will never find the eternal life that you seek...Savour your food, make each of your days a delight, ... let music and dancing fill your house, love the child who holds you by the hand and give your wife pleasure in your embrace.'"
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post #14 of 21
well, if you're in the field and can't find it, I'm not likely to have much luck.

....addictive shopping is different from shopping shopping

not really. there's activity, then there's habit's, then there's compulsions, then . . . . just like baking - it's all a matter of degrees <g>
post #15 of 21
degrees, huh? baking temperature?

Anyway, i didn;t try to find anything, i just don;t look for stuff like that on internet unless i want to show students how bad research is done. But addiction is defined not by the action but by the experience: the compulsiveness and the ultimate lack of satisfaction at the end. (in my opinion, and from my perspective)
"Siduri said, 'Gilgamesh, where are you roaming? You will never find the eternal life that you seek...Savour your food, make each of your days a delight, ... let music and dancing fill your house, love the child who holds you by the hand and give your wife pleasure in your embrace.'"
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"Siduri said, 'Gilgamesh, where are you roaming? You will never find the eternal life that you seek...Savour your food, make each of your days a delight, ... let music and dancing fill your house, love the child who holds you by the hand and give your wife pleasure in your embrace.'"
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post #16 of 21
When shopping Amazons reviews are an excellent source. And as a college student I use the online databases all the time :D
post #17 of 21
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i just don;t look for stuff like that on internet unless i want to show students how bad research is done.
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methinks it would be much more educational to teach students how to recognize good internet sources / info from raving lunatic / extremist "research".......... but that's just me.
post #18 of 21
For academic research you would never use an internet source, unless it were a professional journal you can access online. I'm not talking about raving lunatic research, just bad science, or journalistic jumping to conclusions and misrepresenting research, even when the conclusions are quite conservative and mild-sounding.
"Siduri said, 'Gilgamesh, where are you roaming? You will never find the eternal life that you seek...Savour your food, make each of your days a delight, ... let music and dancing fill your house, love the child who holds you by the hand and give your wife pleasure in your embrace.'"
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"Siduri said, 'Gilgamesh, where are you roaming? You will never find the eternal life that you seek...Savour your food, make each of your days a delight, ... let music and dancing fill your house, love the child who holds you by the hand and give your wife pleasure in your embrace.'"
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post #19 of 21
I'm a guy and I like to make my grocery shopping pretty quick. I'll write a list before I go and usually won't stray too far from the list. I do spend time comparing prices and products but still I'm on a mission to get the shopping done.

On the other hand, I often read ingredients on the container if it's not a staple that I already know. Usually an ingredient list that covers half the container makes my mind up not to buy it, but other than that, I do read them.

Shopping for tools, on the other hand, gives me a high :smiles: I take my time on those. I'm a Home Depot loiterer.
post #20 of 21
A college student can trust 90% of the info found on .gov, .edu sites. I still prefer to verify the author before using it in a paper to make sure it is legitimate. There are thousands of online resources that are acceptable at all college levels when doing research. My campus library also links into thousands of newspapers, journals, magazines, etc that are all online. I have done many papers based on internet research only and I got A's on them. Several of my classes even taught proper online research so it is a very acceptable source. Here is just on area of online resources my college has SMSU - Library - A to Z list of databases and I still do lots of online research before buying kitchen gadgets :D
post #21 of 21
If you read my reply, i said "unless it were a professional journal you can access online" - anyone, ANYONE can write something and put it on internet, and can claim to be quoting scientific research, and can make everything up or can be actually citing cutting-edge scientific research, and there is no way of knowing. And Journalists are notorious for taking pieces of information out of context and claiming this is the "newest discovery" or the "latest research" and publish this on reputable newspapers (not all do but unless you know the author, how can you tell?) and of course companies of all kinds - drug companies (including homeopathic), sellers of various treatments, beauty and otherwise, sellers of cars and deodorants and anything else, can write "scientific" articles with no basis and patch together other people's ideas out of context and post them on internet with a good web designer that will make sure that if you put in a key word, their site will come up and be pushing their particular product with a false "scientific" quotations. They can write these without identifying themselves or their particular vested interest, maybe as a site on child care or on hairdos. And these are only the ones who maliciously distort information to sell something. Loads of them are well-meaning but still have distorted information. So sure, there are great journals you can access online, but it's not usually journals that come up when you do a google search.
"Siduri said, 'Gilgamesh, where are you roaming? You will never find the eternal life that you seek...Savour your food, make each of your days a delight, ... let music and dancing fill your house, love the child who holds you by the hand and give your wife pleasure in your embrace.'"
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