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Hi folks:
I have been baking for other people for a long long time, and as it seems now, baking has become the passion of my life..
I mostly bake breads and bagels, donuts and rolls, pastries and some.
I have been thinking of having my own little bagel shop for a while and saving pennies for a long time.
And now, I am ready to go for my dream. And here I face the problem.
I work with world class baking equipments. But I can't buy those retarders, proffers, ovens and walk-in-freezers new, I'm not that rich, nor I have saved that much.
Any one with suggestions on used Hobart baking line-up? (Baker aid is cool too!) Single rack oven, a double rack retarder and a proffer and a 8x10x8 freezer + some baking utensils....
I checked online, and clicked almost all the links there in about first 10/15 pages. They are all "ON-LINE" staff. Talked to more than 20/30 companies, but couldn't make a decision...Nervous? Yes. It's the only shot I have to give myself. And that's why I turn to you.
Any good company in Northern California selling used bakery items that you know? Or, if any one knows about any bakery closing or selling these, please let me know.
Thanks in advance for reading this and any feedback is sincerely appreciated.
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I'm not sure what area you live in, but i'm up in Oregon, and I've found that the Portland Craig's List is AMAZING for that kind of stuff. It is hit and miss if you looking for particular brands, but I've seen several bakeries closing and are selling all their stuff on the cheap. So, I'd check Craigs List for the all areas you live closest too... and even consider the ones a little further away, rent a truck and go pick up your stuff!

Hope that gives you a new idea!!
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Photographers are fond of saying it isn't the camera that takes good pictures it is the person holding the camera. The same can be said about opening a bakery. One only needs to walk through Paris, or old New York and look at the equipment they're using. Miracles can be worked with old and rusty equipment. I am not advocating that you shop for rusty junk but don't feel preasued to buy the newest shiniest, best. Sure RobotCoup is an awesome! food processor. But we've been using a home model Cuisenart for 3 years (at 1/10th price.) Of course it hard to go from an established (or school) kitchen to the real world but thats part of the business.

You don't mention if you are going this route, but you don't need to be rich or save all the money. That is what SBA (small business association) loans are for. Easier to obtain than regular loans. It requires some collateral, (savings often is enough) and SOLID business plan. There is probably an agency in your area that helps people get started with their own business.

I will have to second that comment about Craig's List, we opened a bakery with getting half of our stuff from CL. I warn though, bakery specific equipment like proofers, sheeters, mixers can be pretty hard to source. You mentioned Cali. If you can haul you could start with SanFran CL it seems to be quite a bit of baking equipment coming from there.

Another option is find your local equipment dealer and build a solid relationship. If they are good the prices will get better the more you buy from them.

Some advice (sorry if I am repeating something you already know). Don't buy used just when looking at expensive things. For example a used refridgerator could end up costing you more in repairs when it breaks (at 2am Saturday night, they always do). Not to mention used has no warranties. Also check your local energy company there may be regulations and or REBATES regarding energy efficiency on equipment that has heating or cooling elements, a good relationship with a dealer will help you save here.

Very roughly I would buy cheap and used any small wares and stuff that doesn't plug in, and non-essential refridgeration (prep tables, milk fridge for espresso machine etc...), sinks, prep tables. And buy new equipment that has heat, essential refridgeration, (though used walk-ins are generally ok) and or water running through it...Exceptions abound, but that is good thing about forums.

I would also advise to not get non baking-specific equipment from bakery equipment suppliers. Restaurant equipment dealers tend to have more of these things. The same for bakery specific equipment, go to a bakery equipment supplier, they will have more in stock (even used and be more knowledgeable).

Some non-equipment advice, sorry if stepping on toes. If you have'nt already take some business classes either from the SBA or your community college. Running a bakery will be 25% baking (if you are lucky) and the rest trying to balance the books, fix the equipment, hire the staff, designing stickers, ordering bags, pricing flour, dealing with customers, etc...... Unless you have a business partner or hire a good general manager you may find yourself doing very little baking. Especially if you are thinking of a retail type establishment, even a very small one.

I could ramble all night with unsolicited advice. I am truly advocate for owning your own business, but also for doing it smartly. I'd be happy to answer (or throw opinions at you) any more questions.

Good Luck
"Just can't wait to get on the road again."
Willie Nelson
"Just can't wait to get on the road again."
Willie Nelson
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Bussiness Plan

I am trying to get my Bussiness Plan ready but where do I start ? Do i hire a Lawyer?
I am in the process to launch my bussiness but I am so nervious with the economy
right now....Any Advice?

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