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post #61 of 74
I have wondered the same thing, none of these guys seem overly bright. I cha;ked it up to a reality show.
post #62 of 74
Ok, I'm finally getting into He11's Kitchen. I've never seen any of the series before. I'm a few episodes into season 4, but which season should I watch after that?


I assume I'll just go to season 1 and watch chronologically and then skip back to season 5.
post #63 of 74
I also just started watching it and can only find 4 and 5 on hulu. Hoping to find 1-3 somewhere.
post #64 of 74
theyre filming kitchen nightmares at a friends restaurant. they setting up tonight and going through the weekend... i am going to try to get in there and see how it goes, but apparently how the show works is there are no walk-in customers... everyone is given vouchers before filming begins. i had no idea.
post #65 of 74
I just finished season 4 this week. I loved it.

I didn't get it before. All the words that are spewed; it's just a game. It's not personal, that's how the kitchen works.
post #66 of 74
I'm almost done with watching season 1. What a great show once you get past Chef Ramsey's insults. I have developed a great respect for him.
post #67 of 74
Instead of starting a new thread on the topic......... Why not just resurrect last years where it left off.

So we have another group of folks that by either editing, casting or lack of talent are rather "interesting" in both attitude and....well....... ability.

Understanding full well that we only see a portion of what is actually said or what goes on as well as some of the seemingly staged situations and bumped up attitudes.......Even some of the entertainment factor of the show is fading and after the second episode tonight......it's just about reached the end for me. I just can't sit and watch people being stupid in any fashion. Plus the attitude most of all......is this really the crap that Television audiences want to see? If so.....Am I missing something and exactly what is it? :confused:As a former Executive Chef I'm just not sure I can continue watching the show, even for what ever gits and shiggels factor remains.

Then again..... there is really nothing else worth watching during the time slot (so far). I can say for sure that it's not worth it to continue trying to figure out the contestants or Show from on a professional level. Maybe I'm wrong for even trying in the first place but....... that's just me.

It's almost like the majority of the contestants really don't have much talent to begin with and have some deep seeded desire to show off or are so masochistic and have such low self esteem they need the abuse. No matter how loud they bark even to the contrary I'd like to believe that is not the case and in years past there have been some shinning moments. This year?????? I guess we'll have to wait and see.

I guess I've had a shift in position about things. In the past I have made comments in favor of Chef Ramsay and in some cases the show but now I have to wonder. Why does a Chef that is so talented and so successful have to do a show like this? What is gained in stature or role when things are done in the interest of ratings, shock and awe......Talent is traded for what? Where the heck is the bar being set? IMHPO there is no longer any focus on cooking or talent and the show and role of Chef Ramsay can do nothing but deminish the overall public perception of what a truly talented Chef should be and act like.
post #68 of 74
Just watched what I think was the first episode of the newest season.

For living about 2 miles due north of the digital broadcast towers, I'm amazed at how much of the time the screen is blank. Didn't get to see who got kicked off the blue and red teams last night.

But one question that plagues me: I've been to restaurants where I complained to the waitress that a steak was not medium rare, and was told the chef would make that determination. So, why in Gordon Ramsey's xxxx kitchen, does every customer carry the weight of having just come down off the mountain with their opinion carved in stone? And the chefs get beat up because of what some customer of unknown cullinary prowess complains?

At least Mr Ramsey should oughta verify the legitimacy of a complaint before taking it out on the poor chefs. Customers are always right, so give them another plating, but don't yell at the chefs unless its really warranted. And those times should be sparse occurences!

doc
post #69 of 74
I watched both episodes, as I am a slut for this sort of thing.
It's not exactly realistic, but there are touches of reality.
We've all (well most) worked for the agro-chef at one time or another, and we've defintely worked with cooks with those types of attitudes.
It's entertainement, and I myself am entertained by it.
Those that take it too seriously or literally are the ones that have the biggest issue with it.
I'm not big on reality shows, but this one has aspects that appeal to me personally, so I watch.
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post #70 of 74
So last night's episode, who got kicked off the red team and which 2 got kicked off the blue team?

Curious minds wanna know! :)

doc
post #71 of 74
During the first episode the Diner Owner got booted during service, opening up a spot for Robert, who at first was on the blue side but then got moved to the red when Melinda was voted off the red team.
At the end of the second episode the ex-Marine (Joseph) got in Chef's face, and we had a cliffhanger (to be continued), so no one actually was booted from the second episode.
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post #72 of 74
Just for the record.....and remember this is just my opinion (professional or not) I did find the show amusing at first. Unfortunately it's progressed past that point. It's the heightened level of arrogance, anger and loose canon portrayal of all of us that have worked in a kitchen.

The average schmo has never had and because of these shows still has no clue about what it's like in the kitchen. I have family that even after being in the business for 20 years would look at me in utter surprise when I would say that I had to be at the restaurant 6hrs before open. They didn't realize what it took to get ready and thought we just kind meandered through things. That was until they actually visited the restaurant to see me before opening.

Part of the problem is there really aren't too many shows that show you that. and probably for good reason. Maybe because it doesn't make for good television?????? Then again there are probably a 1000 just in the kitchen and somethings were just not meant to be put on television for that reason.

Unfortunately the show this year...in just the first 2 episodes.......has been able to highlight the the worst possible attitudes and behavior from all aspects.........FOH and BOH. It's the fact that the producers have gone out of their way to outfit the show with the very reason why the restaurant industry is in it's current state and why it has never been taken nor received any form of serious respect. It's the "when I get a real job" mentality and the reason many end up saying........ when I get a real job. Drives me up the wall especially since I gave close to 30 years of my life and limb to the industry. It was my real job!

I admit the kitchen is a stressful place and we all have blown off steam. I have come close to crossing the line on more than one occasion and probably did but......you did your damdest to avoid it or at least that's what I was taught. But when you did, and I sure I did in my Bosses eyes, you paid the price.

This has been a long time building especially for me. Events all over during the last 10-12 years have prompted me to try and figure out what has gone wrong. If you're asking why or saying what a pin head I sound like that's not the case. It's because I fix things. 80% of the kitchens I took over needed to be turned around or restructured. I was mostly hired to mop up after a dismal start or when things had fallen to a low point after a few years of operations. I also did many start-ups as well.

Anyhow, I see something broken, the least I do is try to figure out the issue and then formulate a plan and then execute it. What that experience has shown me is that there are so many reasons why but the one that stands out in my mind is that I honestly believe the issue is the WWE, WWF or WW who gives a flying rats azz what ww it is. The Springers, the Real Housewives (Atlanta, OC, New Jersey) Miami social, etc, etc, etc "shtuff" that seem to be spewing forth on the airwaves currently. It's that whole in your face mentality that has become mainstream in todays teens as well as the 20 and 30 "nothings" that appear on shows like this. Who woulda thunk that acting like a inmature, overspoiled, underdisciplined @#!%%^**&^%$#$%^&*()_ would get you notoriety and fame. What ever happened to class, hard work and style?

It's been mentioned that this is entertainment and....believe it or not I would whole heartedly agree. But.......when the line between entertainment is blurred and that entertainment enters the mainstream in the form of actions and attitude....like the WWF, WWE, Extreme Fighting, etc have done.......Then it's not just entertainment. It rubs off. People become their environment. Can't help it and the only way for it not to........ is to change, fix or outright avoid it.

You eat fat and you get fat. You watch stoopid, arrogant, angry jackazzez you............

post #73 of 74
oldschool -

this "whole schtinge" goes way way way back in my own experience on this board to the Gordon Ramsey schtick shows.

but I completely agree - most of the tvfood network and (other) cooking themed shows are not a single atom more than "Dancing with the Stars" or "American Idol."

replace "saute and docking" with "singing and dancing" and you can't tell the difference.

substitute Allen Funt and "Candid Camera" and that is the entire intent - television
amusement for ratings. cooking, bikinis, personal conflict - pick a topic - matters not - "food tv" has moved far far far away from "educational" to "ratings"

get a wannabe Playboy Bunny, put her on a beach, in a straw hut, with propane burners, in a bikini, have her dump the boiling pasta water down the front of the bikini, bingo - top ratings. educational value = zero; ratings = off the chart.

sad <sigh> but fact.
post #74 of 74
sadly, i have to agree that ****'s Kitchen is crap. I am however glad that Ramsay's BBC show The F Word is back and as good as ever.
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