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post #61 of 70
Thanks for the clarification.
Your rant has even less validity than it did before.
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post #62 of 70
What the heck???? That's BS.
post #63 of 70
First of all, when I owned my place in Austin, TX I did a background check on everyone and never hired an ILLEGAL but did have a couple of prep guys and a dishwasher who didnt speak a work of english and even though they lived in the US. They were from Honduras but you wouldnt be able to tell from looking at them as their skin color was pretty white.
Second, now that I have read this going back to the original thread you have truly confirmed you are an idiot and there isnt any help for you.
Some advice would be to find a new line of work outside of the service industry in general, there are lots of Hispanics, Latin Americans and others that work hard and do a good job despite the color of their skin and where they come from.
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post #64 of 70
Why, why, why?

1) People are cheap. They don't want to pay more for food than they have to. A restaurant has to make money, so they hire whoever will stoop low enough for minimum wage

2) See #1, and then: A kid fresh out of Gr. 12 can make more money working construction, working a factory floor, or lifeguarding then he/she can being a "Drop Chef" (guy who drops the fryer bsket down) or an "underwater cermaics technician". Besides, the hours suck. Granted, you need "connections" to get a job that pays better than minimum wage when you have "0" experience a fresh high-school garduate, but heck, you've lived 18 yrs in the country, so you have connections. A new immigrant doesn't.

Don't believe me? Ask any restaurant owner. After you get bitten in the butt 8 times by the same dog, you learn to avoid that dog. No one wants to hire a local kid for a dishwasher because the odds are 100:1 that the kid won't make it past the first 3 days.

You bitter and racist about these facts? Learn to deal with it. Just about everyone on this board has sob-stories abut local workers. The kind who go screaming to the shop steward about "illegal firing" after getting caught red-handed with their hands in the till, the kind who go whinging to the labour board that you won't hire them because they've got half a fishing tackle box stuck in their face or ink all over their bodies, the kind who go sobbing to the worker's comp looking for compensation because they've got an ingrown toenail. I'm not kidding here, you want the documentiation on that one, I'll be happy to fax it to you.

Hospitality industry pays crap because the customers don't want to pay for the labour. No employer wants to take a chance on someone who'll run off within a week for a job that pays $2.00 an hour more. Biten in th butt once too many times

Now, I'm a white guy, whiter than sour cream, and the furthest south I've been in this continent is Seattle, WA. It is my understanding that the word "Hispanic" refers to anyone who claims Spanish as their mother tongue. Nothing to do with non-American or illegal. Don't speak it, but I understand tht Spanish is a fairly popular language....

Of course, I could be wrong, what would a sour-cream white guy from Vancouver know about that?
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post #65 of 70
this thread should have been shut down 61 replies ago and some 2100 views. seriously, is this guy even around anymore?
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post #66 of 70
As jobs get scarcer and more people get laid off you're going to see and hear more of this subject. Plant closings, lack of jobs and a sour economy tend to make people bitter and hostile. Although I agree illegals need to be dealt with rather than hired, race has nothing to do with it. The Govt approach to the issue is to mostly ignore it and hope it goes away although the Governor of My state went beyond the pale by wanting to give illegals legal driving privileges.
post #67 of 70
Why do they hire him to wash dishes instead of maybe a 17 year old who just wants to see how it's like in a restaurant kitchen? Why do they hire an old gray haired illegal Mexican to prep vegetables for your kitchen instead of a culinary student looking to just get a start? WHY? Hire those who are qualified. Part of qualification is the legal right to work.

Why? Because they are the only ones who want to work some of the jobs. Example a past post mentioned a female grad of CIA who when the chef asked her to sweep said''I didnt go to CIA to sweep floor'' I am discrimanating I guess because I wont hire most 17 year old American guys. It has been my experience that they are lazy, dont want to work and are half the time high on something. About 2years ago I hired 6 young American cooks, sent them for drug test . 5 failed. I least these illegals as you call them want to work and are not on welfare.
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post #68 of 70
Hi Gunnar. I agree, it's a trolling topic.
I don't like to feed trolls, but it seems like the troll is being force fed at this point.
Y'know, like a goose. Mmmmmm... troll liver...
Which makes it okay. :)... or at least amusing.
First dibs on the liver! (I'll share)

I do appreciate the line of conversation that was opened, though.

edit: messed up on the singular "goose", need to go back to South America to learn proper English I guess... (ahem.., they speak their second language better than some of us Northern Americans speak our first) /joke
post #69 of 70
I think the math speaks for itself......at least 40% of kitchen staff in the southeastern larger cities in the U. S. of A. are hispanic,
mostly Mexican, or from the surrounding countries below it. For whatever reason...it works out. Let us not forget....even though undocumented, they
do supply papers, not real, but papers....employers and employees pay into social security, federal, and sometimes state taxes. No one ever asks where that money goes, and employers never recieve a refund because the documents don't match up...just a little form asking for new papers. Now I
may not think its right, but, our country would be crippled without undocumented workers....produce, construction, F&B, Poultry, etc....plain truth is, there's no answer or solution.....it will change as years pass, but, we will always need them here.....
post #70 of 70
Oh, no, the O.P. is still around, last posted on the 17th of July.

Now, this may be a wierd analogy, but compare the problem of illegals in the workforce to the problem of prostition:

For centuries, the common tactic was to focus on the hooker, jail, fines, etc. Never worked. Some counties just gave up and made it legal, mainly because once legal it was easier to control, but mainly because once it was legal, they could get taxes. The smarter thing to do--if you want to control or get rid of prostitution, is not to focus on the hooker, but the john. Fine the dude, jail him, publicly embarass him, and you have some modicum of control. Less market demand, less product--or less hookers. But then again no society has ever eradicated the problem of prostitution

Illegals come here to find work. Can't blame them really. And they find the work no one else wants to do. Hospitality is a poorly paid business. Too much competition, customers expect and demand cheap, and cheap comes with a price.

So for people like Culinary Hustler, you now can figure out the whole deal. Learn to live with it and deal with it. Better learn to get along with everyone in the kitchen--or you'll never last in a kitchen.
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