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post #31 of 45

appreciated your ragetop review from the repair man perspective.  I am in the market for a 36 INCH cooktop or range top--considering a  DCS CPU 366 rangetop .  wonder what you would buy??  I'm concerned about the ignitor problems--any other Manufacturers that have units that can go 17500 - 700 BTU on 4 burners and 1250-700 on the other 2 burners  ??t  I want to cook, not be calling the repair man ti fix new stuff!!  wonder if you have any comments on the DCS CPU 366 ??

 

I am also interested in the kitchenaid steam double oven  KEBU208SSS?? anyone have experience with this unit??  There are absolutely NO reviews anywhere!!

 

THANKS. 

post #32 of 45

If Wolf when it is delivered don't let repair man leave. My opinion JUNK.

Chef EdB
Over 50 years in food service business 35 as Ex Chef. Specializing in Volume upscale Catering both on and off premise .(former Exec. Chef in the largest on premise caterer in US  with 17 Million Dollars per year annual volume). 
      Well versed in all facets of Continental Cuisine...

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Chef EdB
Over 50 years in food service business 35 as Ex Chef. Specializing in Volume upscale Catering both on and off premise .(former Exec. Chef in the largest on premise caterer in US  with 17 Million Dollars per year annual volume). 
      Well versed in all facets of Continental Cuisine...

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post #33 of 45

I've had two Wolf ranges. The first one, made by Wolf for the home was great. The last Wolf range I had was made by subzero. The top worked fine for a couple of years and then the ignitions went crazy. We lived in the country and no Sub zero dealer could get a repair man to come to even look at it. When you turned one burner on the ignition on one of more other burners would start striking and wouldn't stop until we went down to the basement and turned off the power. It was horrible!

 

The only time we got a repair man was when there was a fire/burning hazard in the ovens and they sent their serviceman. And by the way, the ovens were horrible - uneven heating, broiling etc. If I made corn bread, I'd had to reverse the pan halfway through otherwise one side would over brown and the other side would be under cooked. The repairman's answer to that is "that's how their oven works"!

 

We recently moved and our current kitchen has a cook top which is from New Zealand, and it's the worst - all different sized burners, badly placed, etc. So now I'm looking for a replacement range top and hoping there's something on the market that will fit in my space and work with my pop up vent.  June

 

Make sure that whatever choice you make, that they have people in your area who will service it; and it would probably be a good idea to have them write it down. And by the way, Sub-Zero was no help at all, other than referring us to dealers in two states, none of whom could get a service person out to our house. And with those Wolf ranges, no one else can service them!

post #34 of 45

If you go with a regular cook top, I think you will be very unhappy. You'll be moving pots back and forth constantly. I have one of these and I've never been so frustrated with any stove. The New Zealand brand that is in this house we recently purchased is horrible. First of all, it has a wok burner and that's the most powerful. OK, but then they put the simmer burner at the right front, and the most powerful of the other regular burners at the right back. There's a pop up vent, so you can't put your large pan on that burner because it hits the pop up vent. All the other burners are less powerful than that; and even that burner which is supposed to have enough BTU's, doesn't. When I've brought a 2 gallon pot of water up to a full boil, when I remove the lid, the boil almost immediately stops. So if you buy a model like this, you'd better have an overhead vent, which is a lot more expensive option.

 

These cook tops, if they're all anything like the one I had, are a waste of money. If you only need two burners, and aren't really into cooking, I guess they would be OK. But I can't imagine anyone who spends any amount of time cooking full dinners, being happy with these.  June
 

post #35 of 45

I am the proud owner of the Hypotheory HTRT366NG six sealed brass burner professional style range top and I agree with June Perry's posting. It may not be worth it buying a Wolf or Viking range top they are a lot of money, and at the end of the day you are simply paying for the "name" & popularity.  The product does not function any better then competing brands, a gas burner is a gas burner. You still run into the same issues when it comes time to service the item, nobody wants to come out & Wolf only allows qualified technicians to work on their systems, which makes it even more difficult. I can relate because my mother owned one when I was a child, and we lived in Albany, NY, very far from New York City. No service techs!

 

I got married three years ago and it came time to renovate "our kitchen". My husband's mother left him a house in Orange County. The last time it was updated was probably when "I Love Lucy" was popular. I could not afford a Wolf or Viking with our income, I am a culinary student. I did some digging and was able to find a 36 inch range top offered by Hypotheory called the HTRT366. It is a professional style range top with six sealed brass burners and versatile BTU output. Two of the front burners are triple ring burners. It is a culinary student's dream to be able to have a system that has such diverse burner output options(High,Simmer,All-Purpose). I have owned the unit for about 3 years and I LOVE IT! 

 

I purchased the Hypotheory HTRT366 range top at www.tagndrop.com originally because it was a third of the cost of any range top on the market and it appears to still be at only $1,295.00; that is a steal! It is probably priced low because they are a younger company then Wolf or Viking.

 

When you are a culinary student you cook ten times more food then the average, I originally bought the Hypotheory range top because I expected it to fail like my mom's Wolf RT366 lol in a few years. My mother paid $6,000 dollars for her Wolf range top and in 3 years she was forced to buy a new one because nobody wanted to come out and repair the dam things ignition pin. I expected the same when I purchased the Hypotheory HTRT366 but the exact opposite occurred, I was quite impressed lol. To date I have cooked around 8,000 meals on the range top which is equivalent to 7 years of average residential usage in my opinion, the appliance still cooks as if it were a year old, not kidding! I scratched it up a bit, but it is still gorgeous, and I wouldn't trade it in for the world. 

post #36 of 45

I am the proud owner of the Hypotheory HTRT366NG six sealed brass burner professional style range top and I agree with June Perry's posting. It may not be worth it buying a Wolf or Viking range top they are a lot of money, and at the end of the day you are simply paying for the "name" & popularity.  The product does not function any better then competing brands, a gas burner is a gas burner. You still run into the same issues when it comes time to service the item, nobody wants to come out & Wolf only allows qualified technicians to work on their systems, which makes it even more difficult. I can relate because my mother owned one when I was a child, and we lived in Albany, NY, very far from New York City. No service techs!

 

I got married three years ago and it came time to renovate my "husband's kitchen". My husband's mother left him a house in Orange County. The last time it was updated was probably when "I Love Lucy" was popular. I could not afford a Wolf or Viking with our income, I am a culinary student. I did some digging and was able to find a 36 inch range top offered by Hypotheory called the HTRT366. It is a professional style range top with six sealed brass burners and versatile BTU output. Two of the front burners are triple ring burners. It is a culinary student's dream to be able to have a system that has such diverse burner output options(High,Simmer,All-Purpose). I have owned the unit for about 3 years and I LOVE IT! 

 

I purchased the Hypotheory HTRT366 range top at the Tagdrop web site originally because it was a third of the cost of any range top on the market and it appears to still be at only $1,295.00; that is a steal! It is probably priced low because they are a younger company then Wolf or Viking.

 

When you are a culinary student you cook ten times more food then the average, I originally bought the Hypotheory range top because I expected it to fail like my mom's Wolf RT366 lol in a few years. My mother paid $6,000 dollars for her Wolf range top and in 3 years she was forced to buy a new one because nobody wanted to come out and repair the dam things ignition pin. I expected the same when I purchased the Hypotheory HTRT366 but the exact opposite occurred, I was quite impressed lol. To date I have cooked around 8,000 meals on the range top which is equivalent to 7 years of average residential usage in my opinion, the appliance still cooks as if it were a year old, not kidding! I scratched it up a bit, but it is still gorgeous, and I wouldn't trade it in for the world. 

post #37 of 45

I have had a 48" all gas self clean range for over 10 years and love it.  I had three children at home, so cooking was an important aspect of our home lifestyle and family time.  They are now older and out of the house, so moving to a smaller condo/apartment is in the near future.  I plan on purchasing a range top or cook top with an over in my new home.  The features and benefts of both the range top and cooktop are great, but for my kithen I am leaning towards a cooktop. 

post #38 of 45

My wife and have owned two homes that we retrofitted with all Viking products.  They both had 30" dual fuel ranges.  We built our current house in 2006 and designed in all Viking appliances as well.  This time we specified a 36" Gas Range as it gave us the largest oven capacity and we were sold on the broiler which acts like a commercial salamander(?).  We installed a separate electric built-in oven. 

 

We've had good luck with Viking appliances but I hear good things about Wolf as well.  I will say the Viking kitchens certainly helped sell our previous homes.

post #39 of 45

Although I don't currently own a Viking rangetop or cooktop I do own 3 other Viking appliances that i have been well pleased with.  I have a Viking free standing side x side refrigerator, 450 dishwasher, and convection microwave oven - have had them for a few years and haven't had the first issue with any of them.  My next Viking purchase will be a VGIC5366BSS open burner range hopefully sometime this year.  The rangetop/cooktop question to me would be the look you want to have in your kitchen and the type cooking you want to do.  I think this is going to be a personal preference - commercial look or sleek modern look?

post #40 of 45

I do not have any experience with Wolf, but I would recommend Viking ranges.  I own the 30" electric range, and it is great.  Not only does it look as good today as it did 10 years ago, but it has also performed extremely well.  I have two teenage boys, so I use my range almost every day, and it has never let me down.  The smooth top is so easy to clean!

post #41 of 45

I've had my 30" Viking dual fuel range for several years now, and I have been extremely happy with its performance.  I've cooked on other high-end ranges, and Viking continues to be my favorite.

post #42 of 45

Viking, hands-down!  There is no comparison between Viking and Wolf in my humble opinion.  Why go with a knock-off when you can have the original?  My husband and I are repeat Viking customers, as we have now purchased our 2nd full Viking kitchen.

 

Besides the design aspects of the product, we have found the quality to be second to none.  Viking is an American company that we are happy to support!

post #43 of 45

I  am building my final dream kitchen and that is why I just ordered a new Viking range.  I have had nothing but wonderful cooking experiences with my workhorse Viking range which I owned for over 16 years. I love the burners that do everything from boiling to simmering perfectly. And with six burners I can easily cook for holiday celebrations and large parties.  

post #44 of 45

Be careful!

 

There are a couple of reasons you should be leery about having a commercial range in your home. If you know what you're doing then go ahead and ignore this post.

 

Some things you should consider:

1. local fire codes

2. homeowners insurance

3. clearance (can't put these suckers up against a cabinet)

4. no electronic ignition (i think this is posted above)

 

American Range has some pretty sweet residential-but-commerical-looking options, fyi.

 

Other than that, go at it! I'm jealous.

post #45 of 45

Most of the manufacturers mentioned in this thread make a residential range - Wolf, Viking, DCS, etc.  They look commercial, but must meet residential codes to address the items you mention.

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