After a restaurant reviewer mentioned a (chef) friend's use of wild mushrooms, canning, sous vied, and curing meats...the health dept came in and essentially told him to desist.
Then they hit the farmers market in the area (I founded and ran for a couple of years, and am still a regular)......essetially limiting low acid canning and tons of packaging.....pesto, truffle butter, butter, salsa, peppers........
So, the farmers asked for help and I've asked a university & state health inspector to hold a workshop......this is the outline, would love input from anyone that's had to deal with developing HAACP'S for cured meats, or low acid products.....I've got apple cider coming in, as well as jam....
Local Foods, Value Added Processing
Millie will talk about commercial processing center. (location, is it running yet? if not when?, times of operation, OP)
1) developing recipes for farmers
2) taking recipes they have (and product) and producing them to spec
3) sharing expertise on packaging
(a) canning
(b) heat packing
(c) cryovac
(d) ?
4) labeling....no one asked but it should be touched on.....if preserving is done for a restaurant does it need special labels?
5) Curing Meats....proscuitto, guanciale, bacon, hams, salumis, etc.
(a) storage for the time it takes to cure....in some cases years.
6) cheese and yogurt making
7) fee structure.....even if you work with individuals, they would like a ballpark idea of what it'll cost to have you produce the product with their goods.....b) to rent the kitchen
c) to hire processing expertise
d) what if they participate in making their products?
e) Jars/containers....some are using unique containers.....would it be possible to use commercial grade containers they provide, if so how does that change costs.
They need this to plan, so having an idea at the meeting is important.
8) HAACP Plans....examples for pickles, jams, cured meats, cheeses, sous vide
*I've asked the farmers/chefs to provide a list of products with ingredients they are producing now, as well as a list of future products they'd like to produce......that may give a head start to moving forward on production.
State Health Inspector, Virginia Phillips
1) Site Visits to commercial home/restaurant kitchens
a) what's needed?
2) STL County and STL City Health Dept Regs.....selling value added at farmers markets.......
a) low acid foods.....salsa, canned peppers
b) pickles/jams
c) butter
Suggestions for working out HAACP Plans that address Health Dept Concerns.
Most of these farmers have been processing for years, many in certified kitchens.....several have advanced degrees in science thus understand PH.....most have worked with state and local health depts through the years and have gotten mixed messages. It's important that they know what they need to do to proceed with this season's value added products.....for in many cases it's a big % of their income. Losing a year's production is not sustainable.
For the chef's interested in participating, it's about processing artisan foods.....either having SLU produce it or working with your facility or developing HAACP that would work for county'/city inspectors.
Thoughts?
And is anyone willing to share Haacp plans?
Then they hit the farmers market in the area (I founded and ran for a couple of years, and am still a regular)......essetially limiting low acid canning and tons of packaging.....pesto, truffle butter, butter, salsa, peppers........
So, the farmers asked for help and I've asked a university & state health inspector to hold a workshop......this is the outline, would love input from anyone that's had to deal with developing HAACP'S for cured meats, or low acid products.....I've got apple cider coming in, as well as jam....
Local Foods, Value Added Processing
Millie will talk about commercial processing center. (location, is it running yet? if not when?, times of operation, OP)
1) developing recipes for farmers
2) taking recipes they have (and product) and producing them to spec
3) sharing expertise on packaging
(a) canning
(b) heat packing
(c) cryovac
(d) ?
4) labeling....no one asked but it should be touched on.....if preserving is done for a restaurant does it need special labels?
5) Curing Meats....proscuitto, guanciale, bacon, hams, salumis, etc.
(a) storage for the time it takes to cure....in some cases years.
6) cheese and yogurt making
7) fee structure.....even if you work with individuals, they would like a ballpark idea of what it'll cost to have you produce the product with their goods.....b) to rent the kitchen
c) to hire processing expertise
d) what if they participate in making their products?
e) Jars/containers....some are using unique containers.....would it be possible to use commercial grade containers they provide, if so how does that change costs.
They need this to plan, so having an idea at the meeting is important.
8) HAACP Plans....examples for pickles, jams, cured meats, cheeses, sous vide
*I've asked the farmers/chefs to provide a list of products with ingredients they are producing now, as well as a list of future products they'd like to produce......that may give a head start to moving forward on production.
State Health Inspector, Virginia Phillips
1) Site Visits to commercial home/restaurant kitchens
a) what's needed?
2) STL County and STL City Health Dept Regs.....selling value added at farmers markets.......
a) low acid foods.....salsa, canned peppers
b) pickles/jams
c) butter
Suggestions for working out HAACP Plans that address Health Dept Concerns.
Most of these farmers have been processing for years, many in certified kitchens.....several have advanced degrees in science thus understand PH.....most have worked with state and local health depts through the years and have gotten mixed messages. It's important that they know what they need to do to proceed with this season's value added products.....for in many cases it's a big % of their income. Losing a year's production is not sustainable.
For the chef's interested in participating, it's about processing artisan foods.....either having SLU produce it or working with your facility or developing HAACP that would work for county'/city inspectors.
Thoughts?
And is anyone willing to share Haacp plans?






