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Reconditioned vs. new?

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Hello everyone! I just joined because I found the site so informative. At any rate, I am going to be building a house in the next year or so. I want to outfit my kitchen with professional equipment, but not sure how which route to take. I had picked out a Viking rangetop 48" with 6 sealed burners and the grille, but after reading the bad posts on Viking, not sure that's what I want. Also, it had been suggested to possibly find reconditioned retro appliances. I love the look of those, but I would imagine the versatility and efficiency aren't as good as the modern versions...any advice or where to find them? My husband about died when I told him how much that range was, about 4 grand. So I'm also looking for something less expensive but with the same quality and performance. Any input would be great!! Thank you! :confused:
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The other consideration here is warrantee and availability , of parts as well as cost of repair. If you can find someone to repair it?
With a new range you get a year parts and service with rebuilt you don;t. Also a commercial range for what ? Are you cooking in 10 to 30 gallon pots or standing on the oven doors?. You don't need it. Also will your floor hold the weight? The stove does not make you a better chef. Stick with GE, Hotpoint or whirlpool.:crazy:
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I wish I was a Chef!

:lol: Thanks Ed. I wish I was a chef. I wanted to go to culinary school once upon a time, but now I'm a stay-at-home Mom! Love that gig though! I don't want actual commercial equipment. That's way too much hassle to put it in your house with codes and insurance, etc. I really just want something that's good quality and has 6 burners and a grill. Unfortunately, I haven't found anything that big without going the professional residential route. I did stumble upon BlueStar. They seem really nice and actually cheaper than Viking. The BTU is better on both the high and low end as well. I thought maybe the reconditioned might work, but after I posted this I thought of some of the issues with repair and everything else. Thanks for the feedback though. I promise I won't get something with red knobs just to look cool! lol
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I've got a six burner Viking - worked fine for a 3 years and since then has been a headache. service and parts are out-of-this-world. each of the six grates has four little rubber feet. well, they 'wear out' - get sqooshed with time - whatever. no problem thought I - I'll just get some new ones. packet of four from the kitchen joint: $16

that's $4 each for a little rubber doohickey smaller than a pencil eraser; times 24 every 18-24 months. how outrageous is the price? I found a company online that makes them, called them up, explained what I needed. "How many?" was the question. "Oh, hold on, we can send you a fifty count package as a free sample product." that's how much they "cost" - the kind&generous manufacturer even paid the postage on the samples.

I picked the Viking because I wanted a sealed burner top, I only had two choices at that time. I would not pick Viking again.

nextly, on the grilling idea - you're gonna need a mega-sized exhausting hood to do any serious grilling indoors - physical size to cover the cooktop/grill area plus 2000+ cfm exhausting flow. 2000 cfm (cubic feet per minute) means that hood, in a 3500 sq ft house, 8 foot ceilings, will suck out the entire house volume of air every 14 minutes. if you live in the tropics, not a big deal. if you're heating that house air, gets costly and may require an upgrade to your heating (and/or air conditioning) systems - to keep up with it.

grilling shrimp on a skewer is not an issue. grilling 3-4 Delmonico steaks (ie the tasty one with fat...) will generate a lot of 'smoke.' it also coats everything in the kitchen with a fine layer of grease - whether you run the exhausting hood (low-medium-high) or not.

I'm not trying to dissuade you - it's your choice - but just be aware indoor grilling has its "costs" & issues.

as to 'reconditioned' retro-appliances - proceed with caution. one can 'recondition' an old gadget just taking it all apart, wire brushing off all the corrosion, lubing everything up and selling it. a more thorough job replaces all the working guts - valves, burner throats, etc., with new materials. a cleaned up old cook-top has the same parts availability as an uncleaned up one. one with new guts & working parts would be more serviceable - but be sure to get a complete list of those parts/manufacturer/etc because very few service people can walk in the door and recognize every and any make model part ever made for gas cook-tops.
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Re conditioned vs. New...

Basically, it's a crap-shoot

You can, however, make some informed decisions.

For instance, through the "grape vine" I learned that the local whirlpool dealer "reconditioned" the K.A. mixers, and I learned that the only reson they were returned--mostly from Costco and Mall-wart, was because they were the wrong colour/model. No mechanical issues what so ever, plus a new 1 yr warranty. So I bought. Not only the pro series 5 qt, but an extra bowl and several attachments as well. Significant savings, no issues.

Sometimes a mnfctr puts out lemons, and after a while most dealers won't touch that particular model. So the mnfctr. "reconditions" the model, shaves off a bit of the price and unloads them. Be suspicous of 30 day warranties....

"Scratch and dent" is another one. Sometimes the item has a new panel or glass door replaced as a result of sloppy shipping or warehousing---no mechanical or electrical issues, just cosmetic. This is a good deal IF you can establish that it's only cosmetic repair and not electrical/electronic

Do your market research, Consumer's guide, and all that, It'll usually list the lemons. Like the lawyers say, "Caveat emporium". Your biggest indicator of how much trouble or joy you will have is the factory warranty.
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foodpump,
Thanks! I have been researching all day :crazy: It's enough to make ya go nuts! I am the first to admit I don't know half as much as I want to, but I can tell you I know a lot more after today! I took Ed's advice and looked into GE. Their Monograms look awesome...have you heard anything on those? The dual-fuel 48" with the 6 burners and a grill is only around 7700. Which isn't bad compared to what I had been looking at. And it's pretty. haha. Asthetics do sway a girl! I'm going to see what I can find as far as reviews go. The BTU's look sufficient (18,000) and it has a simmer option as well. Self-cleaning...blah blah. Good advice on the warranty bit. Never thought of that. Thank you again everyone!
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If possible read any back issues of Consumers Reports. And your right monogram is pretty.:chef:
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