Hi -- First post and a somewhat odd question. Pardon the epic saga; the impatient can safely skip past the long-winded exposition to the question in red text below. Moderators, this seemed to me inappropriate for the Equipment Reviews forum but y'all know better than I how you like things arranged, so feel free to move the thread wherever you please.
Here's the setup. I've had one episode of dipping homemade candies, using a toothpick to dunk buttercream-cherry-nut centers into molten chocolate (a melted-down 22-ounce Easter bunny my mate picked up for a dollar after Easter was over). It went okay, considering I didn't bother with tempering. I wasn't sure that could be done with a remelted commercial confection, for that matter, so I didn't bother. Anyway, I didn't mind keeping them refrigerated and they tasted great. The only not-so-great part was fiddling with those darned toothpicks.
Next time I'll get proper chocolate and temper it, meaning I'll need an accurate candy thermometer... and for the dipping itself I'll need something better than a toothpick for holding the centers. So I googled and looked at the many varieties of dipping forks, the loops and spirals they call dipping spoons, and so forth. Eeep! The prices! Can't justify the cost of even a tiny set.
Well, there's a reason why Agatha Heterodyne, Girl Genius, is something of a role model for me. :-} If I can't buy them, maybe I can make them.
Got plenty of doweling suitable for cutting into six-inch sections for handles, and tools for sanding them smooth and rounding the ends. Once they're shaped I'll stain them lightly and (after they're entirely assembled) give 'em a few coats of food-grade mineral oil. Easy.
But what about the business ends? Of what material should I make the actual forks, loops, and so forth?
Though it might be possible for a skilled craftsperson to steam-form bamboo skewers into the appropriate forms, realistically I figure metal's the only option. Some dipping utensils are formed of a single bent wire. Forks require a join, though, where the tines meet the "stem" that goes into the handle, and loop-shaped spoons might do well to be joined to close the loop. That join could be welded, soldered, or for forks, assembled using a tubular stem and epoxy.
* I'd hoped to get some Monel metal wire 'cos it's exceedingly non-reactive... but it's also expensive and difficult to work, well beyond my abilities.
* Stainless steel is an obvious choice, and I could cannibalize an inexpensive whisk to get plenty for my purposes. But I have no equipment that can make joins in SS. And I don't know how easily such reused wire can be bent to shape by hand.
* Silver wire is expensive but readily (and locally!) available in a variety of sizes, including a "half hard" temper that is bendable but stiff enough to hold a shape. I should be able to make joins using a hobby oxygen-butane torch and silver solder, and if I can't maybe the folks at the jewelry shop that sells it can. Though it's reactive, silver's been used in contact with foods of all kinds for ages so I reckon it's safe for this use.
* Copper wire is dirt cheap, easily formed, stiff enough when used in a heavy enough gauge, and silver solder should work with it too. (Wouldn't want to use standard electronic solder of lead and tin!) It's pretty reactive too but copper vessels are valued for heating candy-making syrups so I'd think it's safe enough for this.
For multiple-branched forks I could epoxy multiple wire ends into a little brass tube stem and insert that into the handle, rather than a length of wire being the stem. For stainless steel and Monel that'd be the only choice. But I'd like to keep things simple if possible, which means a soldered or welded join. That would be more elegant, and cheaper, too -- and coming up with a stock of these doodads really cheap is my motivation here. So I'm thinking silver and copper are the leading candidates, copper preferred because silver is comparatively costly.
Any ideas? I don't suppose anyone else here will have made their own dipping implements, but any experience you have with the effects various metallic vessels or utensils have on chocolate might be useful. And if (who knows? stranger things have happened) someone actually has done this, that would be beyond cool.
Thanks in advance for any advice,
Meffy
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Here's the setup. I've had one episode of dipping homemade candies, using a toothpick to dunk buttercream-cherry-nut centers into molten chocolate (a melted-down 22-ounce Easter bunny my mate picked up for a dollar after Easter was over). It went okay, considering I didn't bother with tempering. I wasn't sure that could be done with a remelted commercial confection, for that matter, so I didn't bother. Anyway, I didn't mind keeping them refrigerated and they tasted great. The only not-so-great part was fiddling with those darned toothpicks.
Next time I'll get proper chocolate and temper it, meaning I'll need an accurate candy thermometer... and for the dipping itself I'll need something better than a toothpick for holding the centers. So I googled and looked at the many varieties of dipping forks, the loops and spirals they call dipping spoons, and so forth. Eeep! The prices! Can't justify the cost of even a tiny set.
Well, there's a reason why Agatha Heterodyne, Girl Genius, is something of a role model for me. :-} If I can't buy them, maybe I can make them.
Got plenty of doweling suitable for cutting into six-inch sections for handles, and tools for sanding them smooth and rounding the ends. Once they're shaped I'll stain them lightly and (after they're entirely assembled) give 'em a few coats of food-grade mineral oil. Easy.
But what about the business ends? Of what material should I make the actual forks, loops, and so forth?
Though it might be possible for a skilled craftsperson to steam-form bamboo skewers into the appropriate forms, realistically I figure metal's the only option. Some dipping utensils are formed of a single bent wire. Forks require a join, though, where the tines meet the "stem" that goes into the handle, and loop-shaped spoons might do well to be joined to close the loop. That join could be welded, soldered, or for forks, assembled using a tubular stem and epoxy.
* I'd hoped to get some Monel metal wire 'cos it's exceedingly non-reactive... but it's also expensive and difficult to work, well beyond my abilities.
* Stainless steel is an obvious choice, and I could cannibalize an inexpensive whisk to get plenty for my purposes. But I have no equipment that can make joins in SS. And I don't know how easily such reused wire can be bent to shape by hand.
* Silver wire is expensive but readily (and locally!) available in a variety of sizes, including a "half hard" temper that is bendable but stiff enough to hold a shape. I should be able to make joins using a hobby oxygen-butane torch and silver solder, and if I can't maybe the folks at the jewelry shop that sells it can. Though it's reactive, silver's been used in contact with foods of all kinds for ages so I reckon it's safe for this use.
* Copper wire is dirt cheap, easily formed, stiff enough when used in a heavy enough gauge, and silver solder should work with it too. (Wouldn't want to use standard electronic solder of lead and tin!) It's pretty reactive too but copper vessels are valued for heating candy-making syrups so I'd think it's safe enough for this.
For multiple-branched forks I could epoxy multiple wire ends into a little brass tube stem and insert that into the handle, rather than a length of wire being the stem. For stainless steel and Monel that'd be the only choice. But I'd like to keep things simple if possible, which means a soldered or welded join. That would be more elegant, and cheaper, too -- and coming up with a stock of these doodads really cheap is my motivation here. So I'm thinking silver and copper are the leading candidates, copper preferred because silver is comparatively costly.
Any ideas? I don't suppose anyone else here will have made their own dipping implements, but any experience you have with the effects various metallic vessels or utensils have on chocolate might be useful. And if (who knows? stranger things have happened) someone actually has done this, that would be beyond cool.
Thanks in advance for any advice,
Meffy
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