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 I found this article this morning.....Nice read HAHA!
The chef owns a restauraunt in New York called "Klee Brasserie"


New York chef makes cheese out of wife's breast milk
 

By Colin Fernandez
Last updated at 10:35 AM on 08th March 2010

 

 

In the world of haute cuisine, pushing the boundaries of taste has become commonplace.

But in a move that has delighted some and disgusted others, a chef has made cheese out of his wife's breast milk.

The idea struck chef Daniel Angerer eight weeks ago after his wife gave birth and she began freezing her excess milk.

 
Angerer cheese dish
Daniel Angerer
 

I'll pass, thanks: Chef Daniel Angerer has put breast milk cheese dishes on his menu such as this maple caramelized pumpkin seed encrusted cheese with concord grapes
 

As she produced far more than she could use for their their daughter Arabella, Daniel became curious as to whether human milk could be used in the kitchen.

So he began to experiment in using it to make cheese. He aged it for a fortnight before testing it - and was amazed at its sweet taste.

Now the unusual cheese is on sale at the chef’s Klee Brasserie in New York.

He is using it in a range of upmarket dishes including maple caramelized pumpkin encrusted cheese with concord grapes, and cheese rolled in dehydrated porcini mushroom powder with burned onion chutney.

How to make it... if you should ever want to
 

Ingredients:
 

4 cups mother’s milk

1½ teaspoons yogurt (must be active cultured yogurt)

1/8 tablet rennet

1 teaspoon sea salt

For recipe, see Daniel Angerer's blog
 

Daniel said: 'Being a chef, you're curious about anything in terms of flavour - you look out for something new and what you can do with it.

'After two weeks ageing, it was somewhat like a raw-milk cheese - it had all the flavours in there. It tastes just like really sweet cow's milk.

‘It wasn't like, “Hey, this is such an amazing cheese.” It's just like, “Can you use human milk? Yes, you absolutely can!”

'Our baby has plenty of back-up mother's milk in the freezer, so whoever wants to try it is welcome to try it as long as the supply lasts.'

He added that his 'cooking instincts are rather natural... such as sourcing ingredients from the local market... but this is a whole other level of “natural”.’

Daniel offers a recipe for the adventurous to make their own. It requires four cups of milk, a small amount of yogurt, rennet and a teaspoon of sea salt, which he said will yield half a pound of cheese.

The chef, who first announced the project on his blog, received responses ranging from 'gross..who's supposed to eat this', to 'fabulous'.

His supporters are now urging him to consider making breast milk butter and breast milk ice cream.

 



Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1256200/New-York-chef-makes-cheese-wifes-excess-breast-milk.html#ixzz0hagZqfO2
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post #2 of 16
I'm wondering about the legality of this.
post #3 of 16
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Me too....
Was his wife federally inspected before milking by a uhhh......Vet? Can a doctor give a clean bill of heath concerning human consumption?
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post #4 of 16
I think she needs to be checked for, Mad Wife Disease
post #5 of 16
I'm wondering about her productivity. Seems like an awful lot of lactation if there's that much excess after the baby has had it's full.

How, I wonder, does he keep her freshened up?
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post #6 of 16
Is this guy for real?? How could he possibly subject his wife to share in his stupidity. Legal  from Health Dept viewpoint I think  NO WAY. Not if you are serving it to public in same state you obtained it.  What some clowns will do for publicity?????????
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post #7 of 16
Does he pasteurize it? I thought raw milk and raw milk products were illegal?

Or is he selling SHARES in his wife?
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post #8 of 16
What some people will do for attention.....and they have a child ? These two need a medical .

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post #9 of 16
The "cheese" was taste tested on the Today show this morning...

The poor man on the crew didnt know what he was eating before he tasted it...he claimed it tasted like cheese.  He wasnt impressed to find out however what he had just ingested.
post #10 of 16

No way.  Wrong in too many ways.  If I were there - and was considering going to his establishment - I wouldn't.

 

But is he having a joke on people just to get attention and "acclaim", and it is just plain old normal cheese?

 

I am sure the Health Dept would indeed should be asking some serious questions.  Mother's milk is sweet, so they baby should benefit from it first and foremost, and if there's some left, nothing wrong with him getting some if that's what he likes.  But,  I don't want hers.  He's a twat.

Thanks for the story Mason...it's really incredibly stupid thing, if he is actually doing it - I have my doubts.

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post #12 of 16
Well then, he isn't the first, and probably won't be the last.  Too many issues there.

Use mare's milk, for example, to be "out there", animals that pass Health Standards etc etc.  Camel's, pig's, deer - all that come from certified farms/producers,  Just not humans. Must be sure to inform people though so they have the choice of rejecting it for their own reasons, 

Sure, the more milk is used by the baby animal, the more the body will produce.  Up to a limit. Feed the baby (insert breed here) first, then use any excess.

Just stay away from the dolphins, seals and whales.  What a ridiculous thing.
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post #13 of 16
I wonder, could breast milk be considered vegan?

The Vegan Society defines veganism in this way:
[T]he word "veganism" denotes a philosophy and way of living which seeks to exclude — as far as is possible and practical — all forms of exploitation of, and cruelty to, animals for food, clothing or any other purpose; and by extension, promotes the development and use of animal-free alternatives for the benefit of humans, animals and the environment. In dietary terms it denotes the practice of dispensing with all products derived wholly or partly from animals.[1]

In this instance, would humans be considered animals?  Since it is being "freely" given by a person possessing "free will" doesn't that skirt many of the issues that vegans have with animal products?  Think of the marketing possibilites!!!!

post #14 of 16
Has anybody really thought this out? 
Has anyone tried even to make simple curd cheese with acid (rennet or vinegar) and (cow's) milk?

You get a very tiny amount of cheese per liter of milk. Not to mention if you age it a little and it reduces even more.  I've made cheese just for the heck of it when i've bought excess milk.  One liter gives you about 3 tbsp of cheese, maybe 1/4 cup - and that is very watery cheese, not aged in any way, not drained.  

And that is with cow's  milk.  Do you know what human milk is like?  There is way less protein in human milk, way more water.  Human milk is geared to make the brain grow, cows have to stand at birth, and is geared to make muscles grow.  It's way harder for human babies to digest because it forms a big clump of protein (cheese, literally, since it hits the stomach acid which is what rennet is, roughly) and the baby can't assimilate it easily.  

Do you have any idea how much more humnan milk you would need to make the same amount of cheese?  Probably double.  Do you have any idea what expressing that amount of milk would mean for a woman?  the amount needed to make cheese?!?  A woman would have to be connected to a breast pump permanently day and night. 

Come on guys.  I guess too few women nurse babies for anyone to realize how ridiculous this is.   

But look, he got his picture all over the papers and people are curious.  He looks so smug and full of himself.  let's not give him any more attention.  Their poor baby - with two narcissistic parents.
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post #15 of 16
Has anybody really thought this out? 

Did you read my post above? That's exactly what I was talking about.
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post #16 of 16
Yes, KY, sorry, you did say that it would be a huge amount of milk.   I was just emphasizing the fact that i think most people weren't thinking about, that to make cheese it takes a particularly large quantity of milk, and that human milk is very low in that component of milk that turns into cheese.  It is also so exceedingly sweet, you could probably make cream cheese frosting rather than any savory type of cheese for eating!
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