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post #31 of 44
Is this just something he is proposing in general or is there some specific language, as in proposed legislation?

Rich
post #32 of 44
My understanding is that he's actually introduced a bill in the NY legislature.
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post #33 of 44
OK, I looked it up and will paste the proposed bill here.  I don't believe that violates any copyright laws.  The legislation is:

A10129 Text:

                           S T A T E   O F   N E W   Y O R K
       ________________________________________________________________________

                                         10129

                                 I N  A S S E M B L Y

                                     March 5, 2010
                                      ___________

       Introduced  by  M. of A. ORTIZ, MARKEY -- Multi-Sponsored by -- M. of A.
         PERRY -- read once and referred to the Committee on Health

       AN ACT to amend the general business law, in relation to prohibiting the
         use of salt in the preparation of food by restaurants

         THE PEOPLE OF THE STATE OF NEW YORK, REPRESENTED IN SENATE AND  ASSEM-
       BLY, DO ENACT AS FOLLOWS:

    1    Section 1. The general business law is amended by adding a new section
    2  399-bbb to read as follows:
    3    S  399-BBB.  PROHIBITION ON SALT; RESTAURANTS. 1. NO OWNER OR OPERATOR
    4  OF A RESTAURANT IN THIS STATE SHALL USE SALT IN ANY FORM IN THE PREPARA-
    5  TION OF ANY FOOD  FOR  CONSUMPTION  BY  CUSTOMERS  OF  SUCH  RESTAURANT,
    6  INCLUDING  FOOD  PREPARED TO BE CONSUMED ON THE PREMISES OF SUCH RESTAU-
    7  RANT OR OFF OF SUCH PREMISES.
    8    2. WHENEVER THERE SHALL BE A VIOLATION OF THIS SECTION AN  APPLICATION
    9  MAY  BE  MADE  BY  THE ATTORNEY GENERAL IN THE NAME OF THE PEOPLE OF THE
   10  STATE OF NEW YORK TO A COURT OR JUSTICE HAVING JURISDICTION BY A SPECIAL
   11  PROCEEDING TO ISSUE AN INJUNCTION, AND UPON NOTICE TO THE  DEFENDANT  OF
   12  NOT  LESS THAN FIVE DAYS, TO ENJOIN AND RESTRAIN THE CONTINUANCE OF SUCH
   13  VIOLATIONS; AND IF IT SHALL APPEAR TO THE SATISFACTION OF THE  COURT  OR
   14  JUSTICE  THAT  THE  DEFENDANT  HAS,  IN  FACT, VIOLATED THIS SECTION, AN
   15  INJUNCTION MAY  BE  ISSUED  BY  THE  COURT  OR  JUSTICE,  ENJOINING  AND
   16  RESTRAINING  ANY  FURTHER  VIOLATIONS,  WITHOUT REQUIRING PROOF THAT ANY
   17  PERSON HAS, IN FACT, BEEN  INJURED  OR  DAMAGED  THEREBY.  IN  ANY  SUCH
   18  PROCEEDING,  THE  COURT  MAY  MAKE ALLOWANCES TO THE ATTORNEY GENERAL AS
   19  PROVIDED IN PARAGRAPH SIX OF SUBDIVISION  (A)  OF  SECTION  EIGHTY-THREE
   20  HUNDRED  THREE  OF THE CIVIL PRACTICE LAW AND RULES, AND DIRECT RESTITU-
   21  TION. WHENEVER THE COURT  SHALL  DETERMINE  THAT  A  VIOLATION  OF  THIS
   22  SECTION  HAS  OCCURRED, THE COURT MAY IMPOSE A CIVIL PENALTY OF NOT MORE
   23  THAN ONE THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR  EACH  VIOLATION.  EACH  USE  OF  SALT  IN
   24  VIOLATION  OF  THIS  SECTION  SHALL  CONSTITUTE A SEPARATE VIOLATION. IN
   25  CONNECTION WITH ANY SUCH PROPOSED APPLICATION, THE ATTORNEY  GENERAL  IS
   26  AUTHORIZED  TO TAKE PROOF AND MAKE A DETERMINATION OF THE RELEVANT FACTS
   27  AND TO ISSUE SUBPOENAS IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE  CIVIL  PRACTICE  LAW  AND
   28  RULES.
   29    S  2.  This  act shall take effect on the thirtieth day after it shall
   30  have become a law.

        EXPLANATION--Matter in ITALICS (underscored) is new; matter in brackets
                             [ ] is old law to be omitted.
                                                                  LBD16210-01-0

post #34 of 44
I just took another peek and the bill, which has no co-sponsors, has been routed to the health committee and no action has been taken.  I would be surprised if it didn't die a quiet death there now that Ortiz has the sound bite he wanted.

Rich
post #35 of 44
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Originally Posted by CaboSailor View Post

OK, I looked it up and will paste the proposed bill here.  I don't believe that violates any copyright laws.

You're in the clear.  Legislation is public access.
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post #36 of 44
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Me thinks if it were to pass, it would be the largest culinary cash-grab in history.  A thousand bucks per infraction?  Would that mean for every dish sent out?  I am well away from NYC but I still hope CaboSailor has the right of it.
post #37 of 44
HaHa...  Watch the next time I'm visiting my aunt in Brooklyn, I'll have to throw a benjamin to the chef to include the 'special spice'.

  The way I read it, the establishment cannot cook with salt.  Assuming that salt can be had at the tables, I can't see how this could be enforced. 

 "What?...This big bin of salt officer...It's for customer use only!...Honest!"

Well that's a big load of  horse.gif
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post #38 of 44
I read something a long time ago about salt and iodine.  Apparently the American diet/food for whatever reason did not have enough iodine.  That was when iodized salt came about.  I think it may have been put into law something like pasteurized milk.  The use of salt, iodized salt in particular, was encouraged.  The pendulum swings...
post #39 of 44
 You know what the answer is?  Anchovies.  In everything. :)
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post #40 of 44
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Originally Posted by Free Rider View Post

I read something a long time ago about salt and iodine.  Apparently the American diet/food for whatever reason did not have enough iodine.  That was when iodized salt came about.  I think it may have been put into law something like pasteurized milk.  The use of salt, iodized salt in particular, was encouraged.  The pendulum swings...
 

Iodine is an essential element for thyroid health. 

  If you do not have enough Iodine you will develop a condition called goiter which is the enlargement of the thyroid gland.
This is a pic of stage III goiter.  My sister (not in the pic) developed stage III goiter to which makes the pic below seem tame in comparison and guess what?  She never used salt before her goiter.  She has and always will now.
Do you want to look like this? Rib-bit rib-bit:  

 It just so happens that NaCl is a very good carrier of Iodine and it is something that everyone uses.

What I get a kick out of most, is the bill is prohibitive towards professional use.  I don't know of a restaurant that is worth their...ahh..salt...hehe that won't cater to dietary needs of individual customers.
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post #41 of 44
The ASSemblyman should be; on a salt-free diet for a year--how would get sick within a few months as his electrolyte balance would go wacky and probably dead well before his year's diet is up.

But admit, he made a name for hinmself--otherwise he would be a nobody.
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post #42 of 44
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Originally Posted by FR33_MASON View Post




Iodine is an essential element for thyroid health. 

  If you do not have enough Iodine you will develop a condition called goiter which is the enlargement of the thyroid gland.

 It just so happens that NaCl is a very good carrier of Iodine and it is something that everyone uses.
 

You can also develop other conditions from not having enough iodine, also related to the thyroid.  I know because I suffer from one of these conditions.  I used to think salt was bad and so cooked without salt.  I don't do that anymore, but will still have to take a thyroid-stimulating salt (prescription) for the rest of my life.  Had I only known.  I think this was the motivation behind the previous push in the US to make iodized salt available.
post #43 of 44
I think this was the motivation behind the previous push in the US to make iodized salt available.

Yes, it was; and was done at the request of the U.S. government.  It was largely but not entirely directed towards goiters. 

It's also worth pointing out that "enriched bread," which was introduced during the depression as a result of a request also made by the US government to large bakers was done for similar reasons, and was/is similarly successful.

BDL 
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post #44 of 44
Reminds me of the day I came home from work at Apple, and it was smelly hippy day in Davis...er...Earth Day. Found a clipboard and a piece of paper and started talking about the dangers of Mono-hydrogen Dioxide. how it was in our food, being used daily in pesticides and and was a common ingredient in a lot of "so called" kids juice drinks. Had about fifty signatures before my girlfriend caught up to me and made me knock it off.  Some guy I had just talked up was wondering why this woman was interfering with my campaign, I told him she was a firm believer in the uses of water... he didn't get it. I imagine someone suckered people on salt much the same way.
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