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post #31 of 103

Cooking for a family of picky eaters...

 

Brother and sister who between the two of them won't eat most seafood, anything "spicy" (by which they mean seasoned), anything with visible green herbs, any greens except iceberg lettuce.

 

Brother will only eat meat on the charred side of well-done, sister only eats meat nearly raw.  Both will only eat poultry so overcooked that it's crumbling into sawdust-like consistency.

 

Vegetarian friend who won't eat anything containing garlic or onions.

 

Other vegetarian friend who won't eat pasta or anything with nuts.

 

Friend's wife who goes into anaphylactic shock if she's in the same room as a mushroom of any species.

 

Blah, blah, blah.

 

Thank God that at my last dinner party we had a power failure and had to eat by flashlight so they couldn't see what they were eating.

post #32 of 103

Home cook here...

 

I don't mind people wandering into the kitchen, but I don't want them hovering so close I can't pull my elbow back without knocking the contents of someone's glass on the floor. My mother has this extra-bizarre horrible thing where she hovers and then mops up little spills on the rangetop --- WHILE IT'S ON. I mean, like I'm tossing a blazing-hot skillet over high heat and here she is poking her fingers almost into the flame with this disgusting little wet rag because there's a little dab of sauce on the pristine white. Weird weird weird. I now routinely drive these people away: just toss the pan while lifting the handle so you get that big gout of flame -- I know, you're not supposed to do that, bad form -- but it freaks people out and they flee.

 

I gave up cooking at other people's houses without bringing my knives or resigning myself to it. That also gets rid of hoverers, actually. Sure, I'll be happy to cook, here's this 11" chef's knife sharpened to a razor edge... hello? hello? where'd everyone go?

 

One thing I really, really hate is when someone asks me to come and cook, and we arrange stuff in advance, and they don't pay attention. My mother and mother-in-law are the worst offenders on this one. They'll basically buy all the stuff, and I come and cook it, right? But I show up and where I said I would need a stick or so of butter, it turns out all they've got is 2Tb in the little dish, covered with jelly and crumbs from toast. Or they thought they had black pepper, but I guess they're out, sorry. My personal fave on this one was when my plan included some rather intricate potstickers, and I must have asked my mother about five times if she had a nonstick pan (the buggers aren't called potstickers for nothing), and she'd always say yes. When I got there, it turned out that by "nonstick" she meant "Calphalon." Eh? "Nothing sticks to it." Errr.... you don't make omelets very often, I gather....

 

I also deeply hate certain kinds of tools. What moron invented nylon spatulas that bend so easily you can't lift a single portion of fish fillet? Who invented kitchen tongs made out of that stuff that's only slightly stronger than aluminum foil, so you try to turn something and the things just crush in your hands?

 

Last but not least, I want the people who set certain standards about home rangetops and countertops and stuff to be killed. OK? Look, you've got four burners, in a rectangle. If I put a pan on one burner, and a pot on the burner behind it, they both need to fit, OK? I'm not talking about gigantic crazy things, I'm talking about perfectly ordinary pots and pans. And this is not so old, either: my mother's stove from the 60s has more than enough space for quite big pans back to back, but all the normal decent stoves today don't. Who thought of this?

 

Oh yeah, one more. I can't stand people who want meat well-done, don't eat fish or seafood at all, and avoid all green vegetables. One of these things I can live with, but all of them together makes me furious. People like that also always turn out to be unwilling to try things: "I couldn't eat rabbit, that's like the Easter Bunny"; "lamb? eeeew, it's a baaaaby"; "duck? oh, I don't think I'd like that." So what do you eat, anyway? Just meat -- always "steak tips" for these people, I find, preferably incinerated on a grill by some half-drunk macho man -- and then baked or grilled chicken, hamburgers, over-sauced and over-boiled pastas, and lots and lots of junk like canned salsa. I wouldn't mind so much if these people would just say, "I don't really care about food, I just eat what I'm used to." But no, these people always get into discussions about how the food at this place was so good --- read, large portions, everything deep-fried, free CheezWiz liquid glop on top, lots of stuff labeled "loaded," and really big drinks.

 

Bleah. Now I'm all irked. Thanks a bunch.

post #33 of 103

You know, rereading that little rant, I sorta forgot one thing. Am I the only person who hates this whole grill macho thing? What the heck is it with these guys, who can barely make toast in a toaster, that they drop thousands on some gigantic outdoor cremation device and a bunch of overpriced stupid useless tools, drink 8 beers, and think they're grill masters? And they have these theories. You know: "well, you have to get a good char on the outside, see, and that keeps the juice inside." Well, um, sorta, I mean no, but you're not totally out to lunch, but honestly you don't need to do this to a 1" cube of beef tenderloin, it's just going to burn to a lump of coal. And they spend all this money on "rubs" and then mix them together, preferably with some really cheap liquor, to make a "special flavor marinade." You must have seen these dudes over this past weekend, Memorial Day For Animals Who Gave Their Lives To Be Turned Into Charcoal By Drunken Idiots. By the time they eat anything, they're half-blitzed anyway and can't taste it, so they don't even know.

 

I still remember the time I tried to explain about resting meat to a neighbor who's a Grill Warrior. He said it wasn't true, swore up and down. OK, I said, and grabbed two thick steaks. Grilled 'em both good and hot, then said watch this and put one under a bowl, right next to the grill where it was passably hot, and cut the other one immediately. What happens? You know perfectly well: the immediately-cut meat was raw in the center and dry-gray around the outside. After 10 minutes' resting, I cut the other, and it was beautifully pink throughout. What about that, I said? Answer: (a) you didn't cook them the same, see, because this part of the grill is hotter than that one, and (b) you didn't cook them right, because the first one should have been gray all the way through, that's how you know it's done, and otherwise you die of e coli, and (c) I don't like meat pink, that's disgusting, what do you do, drink blood like a vampire?

 

Gah!!!!! Grills!!!!!

post #34 of 103
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(c) I don't like meat pink, that's disgusting, what do you do, drink blood like a vampire?

 

Gah!!!!! Grills!!!!!


Yes, I do. Didn't I mention I am a real cook? What do you think I mean when I mention Long Pig? *insert vampire smiley w/ chef hat here*

 

p.s. I mean Brahm Stoker's or Anne Rice's  or a variation of,  not those sparkly, Emo, crappy vampires upset for being rejected from Teen Magazine.

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Oh yeah, one more. I can't stand people who want meat well-done, don't eat fish or seafood at all, and avoid all green vegetables. One of these things I can live with, but all of them together makes me furious. People like that also always turn out to be unwilling to try things... So what do you eat, anyway? Just meat -- always "steak tips" for these people, I find, preferably incinerated on a grill by some half-drunk macho man -- and then baked or grilled chicken, hamburgers, over-sauced and over-boiled pastas, and lots and lots of junk like canned salsa. I wouldn't mind so much if these people would just say, "I don't really care about food, I just eat what I'm used to." But no, these people always get into discussions about how the food at this place was so good --- read, large portions, everything deep-fried, free CheezWiz liquid glop on top, lots of stuff labeled "loaded," and really big drinks.

 

Oh, so you've also cooked for my family???
 

post #36 of 103

 

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Originally Posted by Gunnar View Post

Yes, I do. Didn't I mention I am a real cook? What do you think I mean when I mention Long Pig? *insert vampire smiley w/ chef hat here*

 

p.s. I mean Brahm Stoker's or Anne Rice's  or a variation of,  not those sparkly, Emo, crappy vampires upset for being rejected from Teen Magazine.

Mmmm, long pig...

 

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Oh, so you've also cooked for my family???
 


post #37 of 103

Am I the only person who hates this whole grill macho thing?

 

Not hardly, Chris.

 

I used to have a boss who's father wouldn't even attend a back-yard cook out. If dragooned into it, he'd take his food into the house. His contention:

 

"For a hundred thousand years we've fought our way out of the caves to become civilized, with flush toilets, and high-tech stoves. Then we buy a place in the suburbs, and the first thing we do is cook in the backyard. Doesn't make sense, and I ain't gonna do it."

They have taken the oath of the brother in blood, in leavened bread and salt. Rudyard Kipling
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post #38 of 103

KYH,

 

That just reminded me of this old story : (getting away from pet peeves- I know, could not resist)

 

 

In a quiet Mexican fishing village, an American who was on vacation saw a local fisherman unloading his catch. He decided to approach him.

The American asked the fisherman, “Why are you finishing your day so early?”

The Mexican replied “Oh Senor, I have caught enough to feed my family and a little extra to sell for today. It is now time to go for lunch with my family and have a siesta. In the afternoon, I can play with my kids. In the evening, I will go to the cantina, drink a little tequila and play the guitar.”


The business professor was horrified at the fisherman's lack of motivation to succeed. He answered, “If you stay out at sea until late afternoon, you will easily catch twice as much fish. You can sell the extra, save up the money and in six months, maybe nine, you will be able to buy a bigger and better boat, and hire some crew. Then you will be able to buy a second fishing boat and hire another crew.”

He continued, “In another year or two, you will have the capital to buy a second fishing boat and hire another crew. If you follow this business plan, in six or seven years, you will be the proud owner of a large fishing fleet.”

“Just imagine that! Then you can move your head office to Mexico city, or even to L.A. After only three or four years in LA, you float your company on the stockmarket giving yourself, as CEO, a generous salary package with substantial share options. In a few more years , listen to this : you initiate a company share buy-back scheme, which will make you a multi-millionaire! Guaranteed!”

The American got very excited at the prospect himself. He said, “I definitely know these things. I'm a well known professor at the US Business School.”

The Mexican fisherman listened intently at what the animated American had to say. When the professor had finished, the Mexican asked him, “But, Senor Professor, what can a person do after getting millions of dollars?”

Now, the American professor hadn’t thought that far. He was taken aback by the question.

So he quickly figured out an answer “Amigo! With all that dough, you can retire. Yeah! Retire for life! You can buy a little villa with a picturesque fishing village like this one, and purchase a small boat for going fishing in the morning, You can have lunch with your wife every day, and a siesta in the afternoon, with nothing to worry you. In the afternoon, you can spend quality time with your kids, and after dinner in the evening, play guitar with your friends in the cantina, drinking tequila. Yeah, with all the money, my friend, you can retire and take it easy.”

Puzzled with the American's suggestion, the Mexican fisherman replied, “but, Senor Professor, I do that already!”

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post #39 of 103
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ooooooooooohhhhh........

people opening bread by tearing open the bags instead if using the twisty. that's a good one and really pisses me off.

 

coming in after my two days off and seeing that no one has been keeping up on rotating and icing the fish. i work the fish station and do it every night.

 

people touching my knives is another good one. drives me crazy. or people forgeting their knives and asking if i have one they can borrow.

 

co-workers who do nothing but complain about not getting enough hours. they are always willing to show up that half hour early(unknown to chef), but are always in a rush to get out right at closing. the beer will still be cold when you get home, trust me.

 

 

last one for tonight....

the sous makes specials and at the end of the night puts everything away in the cooler. the next night he makes something different and never uses the previous prep for something else and wonders why there are never enough containers and why the cooler is so cluttered.

post #40 of 103

Oh man, that one bugs me. And then when I do nag, they're like "But I'm finished up fill-in-the-blank in this game!" I don't give a damn! I told you in advance so you could be off the computer, or have your page bookmarked, or have whatever other task set aside by the time dinner's ready! Arg. Roommates.
 

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-Telliing people dinner will be ready in 10 mins, so please finish off what you are doing - and waiting 20 mins after having to nag - I don't make a nice dinner so it can go cold and spoil.  Me not hungry by then

post #41 of 103
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Oh man, that one bugs me. And then when I do nag, they're like "But I'm finished up fill-in-the-blank in this game!" I don't give a damn! I told you in advance so you could be off the computer, or have your page bookmarked, or have whatever other task set aside by the time dinner's ready! Arg. Roommates.
 


 

Heh, plate it and leave it in the kitchen and go sit and eat. My wife pulls that from time to time..finishing a phone call, blogging or just trying for one more row of knitting before I get done with dinner. Then it's all "where's my plate?". its in the microwave, you may need to reheat it.

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post #42 of 103

I just might have to start doing that.
 

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Heh, plate it and leave it in the kitchen and go sit and eat. My wife pulls that from time to time..finishing a phone call, blogging or just trying for one more row of knitting before I get done with dinner. Then it's all "where's my plate?". its in the microwave, you may need to reheat it.

post #43 of 103
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Originally Posted by Jmama View Post

Oh I so forgot the whole dinner will be ready in 10...Oh I feel your pain especially when your making nice seafood that doesn't taste good cold


Yeah its great fun innit?  My theory with seafood is get them to the table first with some thing nice to drink and some fresh bread and butter to keep 'em busy and them talking - then go start the seafood.

 

The getting them to the table is the hardest thing, I know I know....

 

 

 

Petals,

 

I love the tale you related.  Thank you for the post.


 

 Don't handicap your children by making their lives easy.
Robert A. Heinlein

 
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post #44 of 103

Oooh, you just hit one heck of a nerve. I HATE that.

 

A couple years ago I got drafted to cook this complicated fancy holiday meal for my parents, my wife and kids, and my brother's family. (Better that I do it than mom, though: jeepers, some of what she's served, following along with Gourmet magazine or whatever....) So I'm going guns blazing, trying to work clean, and I see that in about 15 minutes it's going to be dinner-time. Perfect timing: it'll be up at 6:00, precisely as requested (mom cares about these things). I take a brief break and go into the living room and say it'll be dinner in 15.

 

Ten minutes later, I remind them, dinner in 5.

 

Finish plating, put it all out good and hot, and nobody has moved a muscle. Oh, dinner's ready? Oh, well, I guess it's time to start getting organized, washing hands, encouraging kids to finish with their toys for the moment....

 

I seriously considered sitting down and eating right then and there, but it would not have gone over well.

post #45 of 103

My biggest pet peeve is when people think that adding massive amounts of salt makes something "taste better",

the same goes with tons of sugar and cream in gourmet freshly ground coffee or espresso drinks.

 

Also my room-mate who cannot cook at all and only drinks soda and eats chips, pizza rolls, frozen burritos and other preservative loaded low quality foods and then every time I cook he is standing over my shoulder expecting to get a helping.

 

I understand I could help him acquire a taste for better foods, however I know he is not interested in cooking himself and I'm not his wife!

 

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post #46 of 103

To be honest, the last few years I have been getting unpeeved, so to speak.  My wife and I have been married twentymumble years.  Usually during that time we've gone to her family's places for Thanksgiving and Christmas. It used to be turkey way overdone and dried out, instant potatoes, canned veggies, gravy from a packet - you get the idea.  Mark, shut up, smile and act like you enjoy it.

 

It has been a long process but they have come around.  I do the basic menu planning and most of the cooking.  I'll put in requests for various fresh produce and seasonings and such, it will be there when we fly in.  A couple of years ago I requested fresh rosemary sprigs.  Her older sister found some that were so fresh they were still growing - packaged with roots in a clump of dirt.  I was impressed.

 

I'd like to be able to throw a couple of my knives and such into my carry on luggage, but that ain't gonna happen.  The kitchens in Phoenix and Orange County are not equipped as I would like.  Maybe I'll mail a box of tools to precede us, it would be nice to have a decent blade to work with once there.

 

mjb.

post #47 of 103
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Originally Posted by KYHeirloomer View Post

I'd like it well done, but juicy"

 

Well, waddayaknow, PrairieChef. Seems like you've served my brother.

 

The boy insists on having his steaks cooked to the shoe leather stage, then douses them in ketchup because they're so dry.



ahahahaha i had a good laugh at this. Your brother doesn't really no food at all then i'm guessing after reading this?

post #48 of 103

When people eat some of my mac salad and leave the rest on the counter for hours to get  all dry and discolored. 

 

People using the same tongs to throw a raw chicken breast on the grill and then take a cooked one off the grill.

 

When people ask for help and don't tell me what they need me to do.

 

Servers constantly asking if their order is up. Look in the window.

 

It;s after closing time and I'm still getting orders.

 

Cooks forget  to empty the grease trap and make the dishwasher clean  their mess.

 

When product  isn't rotated or stored correctly .

 

When everyone accuses me of being high whenever I make a mistake.  

post #49 of 103

I invited work friends to my place for dinner after telling them that I know how to cook.  I made a rosemary pork tenderloin, rolled fresh spaghetti, and prepared a red sauce from scratch.  I waited to complete the dishes until I got the call that they were 10 minutes from my place.  When I did, I dropped the pasta, fired the sauce, and finished the pork.  Those ten minutes were an adrenaline fueled frenzy and when they were done I waited...

 

...for 45 minutes. 

 

They showed up with a supermarket-bought cake and a 12-pack of Pepsi.  They dined on gummy, old pasta, a sauce that was past its prime, and a pork loin that had to be microwaved(!) because it had "rested" for so long and was cold and dry.

 

They left my house giving me qualified compliments about the good features of certain aspects of the meal.  The salad (which their timing couldn't screw up) got universal and enthusiastic praise despite being the easiest, least time-consuming thing I did all night.

 

---

 

In my life I have completely butchered the preparation of food more times than I care to remember.  But never have I ever felt the immense frustration I experienced that night, when the people I was feeding ruined their own meal but didn't know better.

post #50 of 103
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People who use the old "well, i've been in this business for X number of years"

 

NOBODY CARES!

 

especially when it's someone who is young and claims to have been in "the business" for a number of years that would probably have them working at the age of 10. I would swear that some of these people think that because their mother was a chef while pregnant that they've been working since before they were born.

post #51 of 103
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Originally Posted by Patrick View Post Those ten minutes were an adrenaline fueled frenzy and when they were done I waited......

 

...for 45 minutes....

That's why I NEVER count on arrivals in xxx minutes, when I see the "whites of their eyes" that's when I "fire"the meal.
 

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post #52 of 103
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When everyone accuses me of being high whenever I make a mistake.  


Were you high when you made a mistake??

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Patrick - I know how that feels too well.  Not a pro cook here, but in the past I've had many a meal wasted (past its best but still served to the uncaring sod).  Makes for not a very enjoyable evening.  But they are to blame - not you.
 

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That's why I NEVER count on arrivals in xxx minutes, when I see the "whites of their eyes" that's when I "fire"the meal.
 



lol Pete - good quote.  I have come to live by that rule too- prep is all done.  But don't fire it until they're settled down with a drink and their coats are on the rack.  Especially with oriental meals or anything quick cooked.

 

Don't fire until you see the whites of their eyes.

 

 Don't handicap your children by making their lives easy.
Robert A. Heinlein

 
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post #54 of 103

"Don't fire until you see the whites of their eyes."

 

That's a good one too, but it does cross into the trying to be a chef vs. trying to entertain. You cannot do both. I am happy to have friends that also love food prep/cooking.. so we start together.. and make the most of it. If it takes 2 or 3 hours to get to the table.. I have a very understanding and appreciative group to share that with... because they were there the whole time!

 

Patrick... perhaps new friends are in order?

post #55 of 103

Not putting items back in same place where they belong

Eating with hands behind the line

Not wrapping things properly

A messy sloppy station 

Coming in high or strung out on drugs or booze(your gone)

Not caring about what you do

Constantly showing up late

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Were you high when you made a mistake??


Which time?

 

Seriously I don't even try to cook high anymore. I did it a couple times a while back I have to admit, but I learned the hard way that it slows me down way too much and throws off my timing and communication.  

post #57 of 103

Line cooks who were hired after you telling you how to do the freakin obvious.

Other cooks who are standing talking to you when there is a ton of prep to be done.

People who cook from a box or a bag and think it is as good as fresh from scratch because they have no idea how to make it from scratch.

post #58 of 103

-late people

-no shows

-the managers that won't fire them

post #59 of 103

Lets see... As a line cook/sous chef/kitchen manager/exec chef/prep cook in a bar/restaurant in southern california

 

1) I cant stand to see others on the line with a mess.... work cleaner/neater/efficiently please k thanx...

 

2) People who take wayyyyyyyyy to much time to prep something that only sells about 10 a night (busy night) while they prep almost a hundred... for 1+ hour... just to keep themselves busy while is slow (not rush hour)

 

3) Servers constantly asking for a condiment or dressing while I am in the weeds...... They store ranch and ketchup on ice in the smallest container they can find... How about they grab a LARGER container...fill it with ice.. and keep all cold dressings/sauces! maybe the ribeye wont overcook while you let it sit for 2 extra minutes while i grab you your freaking extra bleu cheese dressing....

**\When they are not serving they are just standing there talking about girls/sports/drugs? Common.. put some effort it.. help us out in the back of the house by doing 5 minutes filling up a couple squeeze bottles much valuable time during a rush hour...

 

4) I leave the line for a couple minutes and come out to find 3-4 tickets still attached to the machine...WHY couldnt the other cooks who are not doing anything, standing around, waiting for a ticket on their station, throw some wings or calamari in the fryer???  The worst is that the other cooks do not even tell me there are tickets there.. So I look at the ticket time.. 15 minutes passed already.. and its not even fired yet... Common amigos...

 

5) Other cooks who dont taste their food or watch garlic burn as they ignore the range, then put that dog food inedible BS on a plate like they dont care..

 

6) Professional cooks with no knowledge of proper sanitation procedures

 

7) No call, no shows...

 

8) Deep cleaning; then taking two days off work on slow nights (wed and thurs) to come back in on friday to see everythings ruined.. and by ruined I mean... exactly the opposite of everything I worked my ass off to clean/fix/organize in the first place..

 

9) When managers dont notify me of parties that were not on the reservation list then yell at me for not having everything they want to eat... a little prior preperation prevents a piss poor performance.. thanks

 

10) Managers cutting my cooks so when we get swamped there are only 2 of us to do what a team of 5 struggles to do efficiently.. Money is the root of all evil..

 

11) Cooks who do not do any extra work other than what they "think" they are paid to do.. They never do the things that I do.. Clean the fryers, put away orders... They never help others when they have no tickets, yet the appetizer guy is in the weeds... just keep standing and watching him struggle while you gaze or eat your food.... wow this never ceases to amaze me... good work amigo..

 

12) Cooks run out of an item, dont tell me or write on the board, then when that ticket comes in for it, we dont have any more fettucini...

 

13) people who return steaks when the take a 1/8 inch cut of the edge of the medium rare steak and see its too done for their liking..then i cut it right down the middle and oh yea baby,... perfect medium rare..

 

14) Repeating myself.

post #60 of 103

When a restaurant advertises Philly Steaks Subs and use under par hoagie rolls, meat other than ribeye, and does no used melted yellow cheese. Geno's or Pats? How hard is it to keep it real.

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