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post #1 of 30
Thread Starter 
I realize every topic discussed here goes with my topic. But I have just determined that I really really need to start eating healthier. Honestly, I am just confused as to what that really means.

Can someone run down the absolute basics for me?

Low fat vs. low calorie. Do you know that a lot of low-fat food is higher in calories than the higher fat versions? They add extra sugar for more flavor. So which is more important, less fat, or fewer calories?

What do I eat instead of icecream and candy? Seriously.

And please don't recommend a diet program. I don't have money to join one, and I'm more interested in general changes than following a specific plan.

Thanks, all. I should have asked a while ago.

~~Shimmer~~
post #2 of 30
Here's a start:

A typical office worker who is 6' tall 200 pounds needs no more than about 2400 calories per day of food. Not knowing your height/weight (and I know that such is very personal information) it's tough to estimate caloric requirements.

One cannot eat enough veggies yet one can consume too much meat. A piece of meat about the size of a deck of playing cards is all the meat (not necessarily protein) that one should consume daily.

Add to that dietary regimen a 30 minute aerobic workout for obvious reasons: improved metabolism and well-being.

Get yourself a copy of the book PRESCRIPTION FOR NUTRITIONAL HEALING by Balch.

Dessert is my downfall - sorry!
post #3 of 30
Good advice, Kokopuff. I may look up that book, too.

Shimmer, unless you're under the care of MD or nutritionist, reorganize your habits with moderation. Eat a lot of different foods in each category, substitute fruit for sugar treats (as much as possible<g>). Avoid any diet book that offers you extremes, such as no carbs, no protein, all xyz. Also, I've found that if you have an occasional absolute craving for something, eat it. Avoiding a sense of deprivation helps me keep on track. For example, when I MUST have something sweet, I'll sometimes get a sorbet which has intense flavor and (usually) no fat. I find it takes less sorbet to satisfy my yen than ice cream. And don't get a pint of it, find a place that will dip a cone of it.

In general I personally find low fat substitutes for foods that at their optimum are fatty only leave me hungry for the real thing. Instead, seek out dishes that are naturally lower in fat and/or calories when made at their best. For example when I bake a potato, I make a topping of yogurt, fresh herbs, finely minced (mashed, really) garlic. And in a good brand such as Stoneyfield, lofat yogurt is an exception to my "rule" below.

What you can healthfully and helpfully remove from your diet is all processed, packaged, preformulated foods. Particularly avoid anything that says LoFat, it's probably loaded with sugar and salt.

Make everything from scratch. If you're too tired when you get home from work to cook that way, make a batch of stew, soup, etc and freeze in baggies in 1 serving size. Use a lot of raw or simply steamed fresh veggies. You can serve them with a little mild vinegar and oil. (you can use less oil with a milder vinegar) To control your diet whether for weight reduction or general health, you need to know what's in the food you eat. Just getting rid of the chemicals is a plus.

Try to use fresh fruit and veggies. The more flavorful your food, the more satisfied you taste hunger is, the easier it is to control how much you eat, I find.

Get a scale.

Get a book that breaks down each food nutritionally, telling you what is sat fat, how many calories. For example, all beef isn't equally fatty. This will help you choose less fatty cuts most of the time. Some fats are more healthful than others. Such a book will help direct you to olive and grapeoil which are more healthful oils to cook with than most of the others. (All fat seems to have the same calories, but some are more unhealthy than others.) Find something to put on your bread besides butter such as a tapenade or vegetable spread (eggplant caviar, a homemade salsa). I find that I eat really good bread without anything on it, happily.

Good luck.
post #4 of 30
I can recommend a book:
"Becoming Vegetarian" Vesanto Melina, R.D., Brenda Davis, R.D., Victoria Harrison, R.D.
This book contains alot of good information of basic nutrition for vegetarians, vegans and omnivores. The information on fats was most useful for me. It's available at Amazon.com and B&N.com.
post #5 of 30
I eat vegetarian about 30% - 50% of the time. And when I crave Hagen Daas, Ben and Jerrys, or, desire an entire Pepperidge Farm Vienetta Cake for supper, I indulge. And I feel downright full for the entire day following. Yes, grant me redemption for I am a sinner! Fortunately I sin only once every 6 months or so.
post #6 of 30
Want to know something kind of funny? As everyone knows, I'm diabetic and I have been working really hard to get and keep good control. And I'm doing it! My average blood sugar is now 100 mg/dl. Excellent if I do say so myself!

Last Wednesday, I impulsively bought a pint of Godiva chocolate-chocolate cheesecake premium super all of the sugar and twice the fat ice cream. I'll only eat a little, I said.

I ate half of it for dinner. Oops. Steak and ice cream. The dinner of champions. I figured that I had really screwed up and my blood sugar would be through the roof! But, when I did my post prandial check 2 hours later --- my BG was only 76! That's a little low, so I obviously had to eat more ice cream to bring it up.

My new theory is that ice cream lowers my blood sugar and I should eat more of it! And by the way, kokopuffs, I already went to diabetic confession about this!

Shimmer, consider checking out this author. I've heard good things from a nutritionist, but haven't read it myself yet. I'm encouraging others to read it and report back to me...

http://www.schwarzbeinprinciple.com/

Nancy
post #7 of 30
Nancya:

In some cases I THINK that insulin receptors become resistant, leading to elevated blood sugar (BS). They MAY lose (some of) their resistance to insulin following a period of abstinence from sugar.

Also, just for information's sake, alcohol lowers BS. It interferes with the liver's ability to release sugar that has been stored in it. It's the mixer within the alcoholic beverage that elevates the BS. Bottoms up!

Back on the bully pulpit.

It's red meat and ice cream that are harmful to your health. Yet, it's red meat and ice cream PLUS EXERCISE that's beneficial or less harmful to the body. GET OUT THERE AND METABOLIZE, please.
post #8 of 30
kokopuffs!

So, I should drink more tequila shooters and fewer margaritas?

Edited to add: I swim twice per week and do tai chi 3-4 times usually. I'm metabolizing the best I can, friend!




LOL

Nancy
post #9 of 30
Yeah! Lots more shooters, your body need minerals, right? Unless your margaritas are made from scratch - what better way is there of getting vitamin C?

Assuming we're middle age or younger, we all need to exercise IMHO 5 time per week. If , on the day(s) of rest fatigue is felt, then decrease the intensity by 25-30%.
post #10 of 30
Brava! M. Kokopuffs!

Dear Abby has always believed in moderation and the occasional sinful indulgence. Her personal weakness is cheesecake. Dear Abby will not inform the diabetic police!

Abby
post #11 of 30
One of the absolutes of any eating plan is to drink at least 8 glasses of water a day. Your body functions much more efficiently when properly hydrated.

Eat more fiber each day in the form of whole grains.

Get rid of processed foods. Keep fresh produce on hand so you are less tempted to eat empty calories.

Get rid of dairy. It is not a food for humans. Treat it as junk food.

Use expeller or cold pressed oils only. Mass produced oils are either heat pressed or chemically extracted which renders (no pun intended) the oils useless for a healthy diet. Canola is high in oleic acid (which is in fish oils) which is good for regulating cholesterol in the blood.

Buy organic. Your body doesn't need chemicals and in fact chemicals get in the way of the natural process of the digestion of food.

Eat oatmeal and use it in cooking and baking to replace fat. The natural fibers in oatmeal have the ability to lower cholesterol and cleanse your digestive tract.

Eat soy in the form of edamame (boiled green soybeans) and tofu.
Tofu contains 8 out of 9 essential amino acids and is the most complete form of protein you can eat. Meats and poultry have animal proteins which are harder for the human body to digest and absorb.

Avoid white flour and overcooked pastas. Use whole grain flours and pasta. Cook pasta al dente (Italian for to the tooth) which is slightly undercooked so it breaks down in the body slowly and does not convert to sugar too quickly.

White flour is often chemically treated and spikes your blood sugar and contributes to weight gain and the onset of diabetes.

Use fresh lemon juice, mild vinegars and herbs as flavor enhancers. Use sea salt in cooking sparingly. You only need a little salt. Too much and you throw off your body chemistry and can retain water.

Attend a natural foods cooking class (hint hint) to learn different ways of cooking.

Shop when you are not hungry so you are less likely to impulse buy.

Use non-stick pans so you use less oil in cooking.

Walk each and every day. It is the single best form of exercise and places less stress on joints.


Stay away from products claiming to be low-fat or no fat. Either they are chemically enhanced or full of sugars.

Sugar substitutes:

brown rice syrup - less sweet than sugar and is metabolized slower than cane

natural honey - use in moderation

Rapadura whole organic sugar made from organic sugar cane that has been squeezed and dried so it retains all the natural minerals and molasses. Use in about 1/2 to 3/4 amount compared to regular sugar.

Agave nectar made from cactus

Stevia - extract of South American plant up to 400 times sweeter than sugar yet it is not sugar. Can be eaten safely by most people. sold as a supplement because the FDA will not allow it to be marketed as a sugar substitute. If this was marketed as a sugar sub it would put nutrasweet, splenda and saccharing companies out of business.

Never use trans fatty acids - margarine, hydrogentated oils, some baked goods, soft drinks they can cause coronary disease and increase the amount of bad cholesterol in your blood

Use Earth balance spread made from soy, olive and palm oil. Low in saturated fat 3g versus 13 for butter. Excellent for baking and cooking.


Hope this helps.
post #12 of 30
www.oprah.com
She did a show today on heart healthy eating.
post #13 of 30
Well I object that eating healthy means that you are a vegeterian but this is not my problem right now.I don't know if I am changing the subject. If yes I apologize but I thought that it doesn't worth to start a thread ( or it does?)

On Monday the Lent begins and I have decided this year to follow the fast.

As a passionate meat consumer , I am really confused because I don't know what to eat.

According to the rules of fast for the Lent period, meat is forbidden of course and fish that contains blood is forbidden too !!! Eggs are out of question and diary products too but there is no way for me to live without milk or yoghurt so I'd rather burn myself in **** than abstain from yoghurt.

What is left???

Do you know a nice site about vegeterians? I have to confess that I have already started feeling miserable :(
post #14 of 30
Originally posted by Shimmer
Can someone run down the absolute basics for me?

Heart-health and overall health are based on a few facts. For one, keeping the amount of fat you consume to a minimum not only benefits your weight but your heart. Second, you need to expend calories to keep your metabolism at a good rate - to put to work the "fuel" you consume. If you don't expend these calories, they are stored as fat. Fiber and vegetables are important. Protein is a basic building block and can be found in lean meats, fish and soy products. You do need some fat. If you try to cut it entirely out of your diet, the side effects are horrible. Your skin dries out and hair falls out. A great deal of the fat Americans consume sneaks its way into our diet in prefab food products and humungous restaurant portions. Be aware of quantities...Heaping helpings of food pile on calories as well as fat.

Low fat vs. low calorie. Do you know that a lot of low-fat food is higher in calories than the higher fat versions? They add extra sugar for more flavor. So which is more important, less fat, or fewer calories?

Bingo. You've just "outed" the technique kept secret by the manufacturers of low-fat products designed to replace full fat products...The addition of sugar to improve flavor. Not to mention the horribly undersized portions! Your calories should come from food that is as unadulterated as possible; and your fat should come from heathier sources like olive oil and polyunsaturated fats. (Things that don't hold their shape at room temp - also check labels for "trans fat" sources.) Keep in mind, "diet" products do not hit as many satiety buttons as full fat versions. Perhaps a small bit of something real can prevent you from eating a whole package of something fake. (I got fat eating Snackwells several years ago...)

What do I eat instead of icecream and candy? Seriously.

Yogurt, well-made granola, fruit, nuts (in moderation), sorbets, granitas, baked goods that have been designed to cut out a lot of the fat and replace it with crunchy, sensory-stimulating ingredients. And remember...any of this "retraining" is going to take time so don't freak out when your first handful of granola may not leave you as satisfied as that huge bowl of ice cream.

And please don't recommend a diet program. I don't have money to join one, and I'm more interested in general changes than following a specific plan.

Lucky for you this is not necessary. All the info on the net that's available, books, friends' experiences, etc. can negate the necessity of joining an "organized" diet program. Learning the basics is a great first-step. Watch shows like "Cooking Thin" on the Food Network to get practical applicable methods and a world of information from a spa chef. It's worth recording.

Also, ask your doctor. For #*@& sake, this is what they get paid for! He/She may have a written down plan you could follow for a while until you get the hang of cutting unnecessary fat and calories out of your diet. Whatever you do, please don't try a fad diet like Atkins or the cabbage diet, etc. Quick fixes will not help you look better in the long term and can be very harmful to your present and future health.

Perhaps the first building block of a healthier diet is your firm commitment to make the changes and live by them. If you simply declare yourself to "wanna lose a pound or two," your whole program is built on a foundation of sand. Embracing a better way of eating and living will show itself in your appearance, your medical stats, and overall quality of life.
post #15 of 30
Making the lifestyle changes to eat more healthy is probably one of the hardest things to do. I've spent 30+ years working on this lifestyle, and it isn't easy to change!!

I made my first change 6 1/2 years ago when my husband and I decided to have another child. I was so severly hooked on caffeine (Mt. Dew) that I needed it to sleep! While in Culinary School we did a nutrition project where we wrote down all of our calories for 2 weeks, and then tried to make changes for the next 2 weeks. It came out that 75% of my calories were from Mountain Dew. That was the first moment I realized I needed a change.

That change was the hardest 6 weeks of my life!! I would rather give birth for 6 weeks than EVER go off cold turkey again. But I have been clean since then, and have been working on all the OTHER changes that need to happen.

I recommend the book "Eating Well for Optimium Health" by Dr. Weil. He gives a good lesson in Nutrition. Also, there are general guidelines I have come up with.

First, I WILL NOT count calories, fat etc. I may eat very low fat one day and higher the other. I will just go nuts trying to calculate things each day. I also don't deny myself specific foods. With my personality if I try to deny, then I start to crave that food.

Okay, eat more fish. This simple act with automatically cut down your red meat intake. Eat smaller portions of meat and larger of veggies and rice etc.

Eat colorful food. By eating food with color you will automatically increase your nutrition. Also, eat in season. It's cheaper and the food is better in quality.

Don't plan meals based on meat. Re-think the usual meal planing of "...I have a roast, now what will go with it." to "...I am making a rice and vegetable pilaf medley, what will go with it?"

Eat more beans! Some how, some way add beans into your diet, this will also help you cut down on meat intake. I've added beans to my fussy kids' diet by cooking them and pureeing them and adding the mixture to my taco mix and pasta sauce. They don't know, and probably never will!

Cut out on drinking empty calories. Don't supersize the soda, or don't drink the soda at all. I dumped 15 pounds by giving up Mt. Dew and doing nothing else! I will not comsume the "diet" drinks, I drink hot tea (green), water, milk (skim), and fruit juices. Soda is a treat, not a way of life.

Learn about soluble fiber, like eating oatmeal and whole grains. These foods keep you feeling "full" longer because they are digested slower. They also keep your cholesterol down. Science is coming out with new info on this every day. The diet trend of tomorrow is going to be "lower my blood sugar diet".

Cook with olive oil, and use the butter and cream sparingly. I make wonderful cream soups with skim milk and a tiny bit of half/half or cream. If you think only heavy cream can add flavor you need to re-think it!!

One thing I have learned from the "Eating Well" book is to read labels and avoid "High Fructose Corn Syrup" you would be SHOCKED where you find it!

And.....for the question, "What to eat instead of ice cream and candy?" Well, I still eat ice cream and I do eat candy. I have found a great light ice cream, and I have learned to cut back on my portion size. Instead of filling a bowl full I eat a cone, cutting my serving in half. I buy candy on occasion, but always those little bit-size ones. One or two usually calm the "chocolate" craving for me.

For me the cravings for sweet candies and ice cream and junk in general come when I am VERY hungry. I have started eating breakfast in some form every day and I curb my "lunch time " munchies. I start my day with a cup of tea, a muffin or scone of some kind (my own, NOT those things from the store) that is made with oatmeal, whole grains and usually fruit and from a lower fat recipe. Believe it or not there are some GREAT scone and muffin recipes out there. Some kind of fruit, depending on the season, a fruit juice. My fave is fresh squeezed orange or grapefruit juice. That really fills me up and I eat a light lunch with my daughter after Kindergarten. She is a picky meat eater, so I usually make a meat-less meal for us.

I have found with this I am eating less "munchies", I crave sweets less, and things are slowly changing. Do I still eat things that aren't good for me? Sure, we all do! But I am doing it less and the nasty habits I worked so hard at are slowly changing!!

Tami

...now if I could just get tofu into my meat eating husband all will be well!!
post #16 of 30
You've gotten a lot of really good information.

Whether you are motivated by a desire for better health or simply a slimmer waist, it is important that you keep good nutrition in mind. Too many fad diets (none recommended here, of course) can do harm to you.

Essential ingredients to better health (and slimmer waist):

1. Get a physical and know what your base line is before making any major changes. As has been suggested, s/he may even have some helpful recommendations. But remember many, particularly older MD's don't have nutrition training.

2. Exercise, walking is excellent and not likely to harm you.

3. Get a few books on the subject and read up on what you're doing. Libraries if you can't spend the money. In addition to those already suggested, Drs Dean Ornish and Andrew Weil (see Chefmom's post) have several out. Ornish emphasizes preventative and curative diet (+ exercise & meditation) to keep the heart healthy; he even has a cookbook. Weil heads the complementary medicine department at U of Arizone. Both have web sites:

http://www.drweil.com/app/cda/drw_cda.php
http://my.webmd.com/medcast_channel_toc/3068

4. I would personally recommend your owning a copy of a book that will give you the nutritional value, including fat and calories of food that you eat. You need to be careful as all too many of them emphasize processed foods by brands, etc. What you need is one that will give you the fresh foods and staples that you should be eating for a healthy diet. This will be a handy reference for you.
post #17 of 30
Thought I'd post the White Dog (drop) scone recipe here. It's dead easy to make, has only 1/2 Tbs butter per scone; the buttermilk is essentially low fat. It has only 3 Tbs sugar divided among the 16 scones it makes! It's from the White Dog Cafe recipe book. WDC is a very popular long time Phila restaurant off the U of Pa campus. It's not a "health food" restaurant.

I make the full batch, freeze them on a sheet pan, store in baggie, and bake just before eating. Once baked, I don't think they keep very well so bake what you'll eat that day. . My 5 year old gd was very enthusiastic about them.

ORANGE AND BLACK CURRANT SCONES WHITE DOG CAFÉ: Makes 16 (1/4 recipe follows ingred)
serve with raspberry jam and whipped cream

4 cups flour (1 cup)
3 Tbs granulated sugar (3/4)
2 tsp baking powder (1/4)
2 tsp baking soda (1/4)
1/4 tsp salt (pinch)
8 oz butter, diced (2 oz)
grated zest of 2 oranges (½ orange)
2 eggs (½ egg)
1 cup + 2 Tbs buttermilk (1/4 cup + ½ Tbs)
1 ½ cups dried black currants (3/8 cup)
raw or granulated sugar
garnish: raspberry jam & whipped cream

combine flour, sugar, baking powder and soda, salt; mix well. Cut in butter and zest til mixture resembles fine granules.

2. Whisk eggs and buttermilk; pour over dry ingredients and sprinkle on the currants. Stir just til ingredients come together and soft dough forms. Do not overmix or scones will be tough.

Divide into 16 mounds; place 1" apart on ungreased baking sheet. Sprinkle each with a little raw sugar; cover; refrigerate 15 minutes - overnight

Oven at 375f.

Bake chilled scones til lightly browned on top, 20 minutes. Cool on rack. Serve at room temperature. Best if eaten same day.

[If buttermilk is not available, You can substitute either the powdered dry buttermilk or make some with milk + vinegar. King Arthur sells the powdered buttermilk as do some markets]
post #18 of 30
Which kind of flour are you using in your scone recipe, Alexia?
post #19 of 30
Kokopuffs, I use King Arthur all purpose flour, but it might work even better with pastry flour.

A few other particulars that might be useful:

I freeze the butter, quarter it lengthwise before cutting across into irregular little chunks (c. 1/4 - 3/4") so I'll get irregular meal with a few larger bits. I mix it in the cuisinart. (same as for pate brisee)

I always keep raisins and currants soaking in rum (brandy, etc ok, too) so they will be soft, juicy, flavorful, and drain them before adding by hand at the end.

If baking frozen scones, do not defrost them, bake a little longer (I've never timed it). I always use an oven thermometer.
post #20 of 30
There's an article in Wenesday's edition of The Washington post, that has been written just for you it seems. A journalist went vegan for a week, you can read her journal My Week As A Vegan.

Here are a few vegetarian websites:

In A Vegetarian Kitchen

Veggies Unite

Vegetarianrecipes.com

The Low Fat Vegetarian Recipe Archive

The Vegan Chef
post #21 of 30

The Good Doctor...

Recently, Oprah Winfrey interviewed Dr. Dean Ornish, the top cardiologist in the United States. He has written books on reversing heart disease and preventing heart disease. He spat out a statistic that made me choke: 1 out of every 2 American Women will develop heart disease. Ouch.

Oprah contacted him because she had been having some heartbeat irregularities and she felt that he had valuable information to share.

Given his specialty is reversing/treating heart disease, his diet advisories can be viewed as particularly stringent - but I know women personally who have gotten incredible results using his methods. He advocates no more than 10% of total calories come from fat but remember his patients are either struggling to prevent heart problems (because they're at risk) or treat an existing condition.

His methods, along with a bit of added fat like olive oil and the better fats, can be applicable to a successful "life change." This will not only help a person lose weight, but will prevent heart disease in the future.

He does not advise vegetarianism but does advise consumption of leaner meats. He has a website but I don't know the addy. Perhaps a visit to the Oprah website can get you a link to his. Worth looking into.

Also, I've been noticing people advising against dairy. Perhaps the worst advice anyone can give a woman is to cut dairy out of her life. There is no better source of calcium and you need calcium to combat osteoporosis. Tabs are fine but they need to be specially processed to be effective. Calcium is a mineral and therefore not absorbed by the body, unless it's attached to something else that the body does absorb. Chelating is the most popular process for this. However, skim or 1% fat milk, and lower fat cheese products, are the most effective, user friendly, daily-applicable ways to get calcium.
post #22 of 30

YOGURT AND CALCIUM CONTENT

The most concentrated food source of calcium is yogurt, not milk. Furthermore, TUMS and other antacids don't count. I won't bother explaining why.
post #23 of 30
Thread Starter 

Thanks, everyone

My husband is a vegetarian, so sometimes the hardest thing on a budget is to eat healthy vegetarian food. In Indiana at least, good produce is hard to find, and expensive when it is good quality. However, I've been cutting back on the addition of fat, and adding a lot of whole grains and lentils and beans, and trying not to go for the ice-cream every night (I have frozen yogurt, just in case I have to have something).

And I'm not sure if its the feeling that I'm doing something good for myself or the actual food itself, but I sleep better when I eat better. Go figure.

So now I have a few more questions.

What is a good thing to eat on toast in the morning? I used to do the margarine + peanut butter, but I can't put it on there knowing how much fat a little teaspoon has (and margarine isn't the greatest thing). Is honey okay? I'm so used to eating toast, and I can't look at a dense piece of whole-grain bread and eat it plain....

I have also found that dried fruit will satisfy the sweet craving I have at work (usually satisfied by the vending machine conveniently located down the hall), so I keep those resealable bags of dried cranberries, etc, in my desk.

And I have been substituting soy milk for regular milk in recipes, and have found that it has the same function, and doesn't change the taste or texture (and soy milk is half the cost of dairy around here, and lasts longer!).

Something interesting I have found- did you know gardenburgers have two kinds of cheese in them? Since I started reading labels, this is what shocked me the most.

Hooray for reading labels, and actually understanding what is actually going into my body! It definitely makes me think twice. Definitely. Hmm, I never did that before.

(BTW, I do own Andrew Weil's book and am on a waiting list to check out his new cookbook from the library; I have read hundreds of cookbooks and feel his idea of eating healthy is a lot more realistic than most).

Thanks again, you all are great.

~~Shimmer~~:bounce:
post #24 of 30
O.k. please be gentle...but I just read something that I stuggle with, budget and health. Not that I follow a strick budget, just that I find it hard to pay some of the prices in the produce department for fruit that's usually horrible and vegies in the winter that are all starch and bitter.
So I find I really eat like poor people because I buy that way(haven't there been studies about low income diets being bad?). Alot of the bad stuff is cheap. I don't mean to be cheap or short sighted because I understand in the long run this will cost my husband and I our health. But there's times when I don't buy fruit for MONTHS!

In the summer I have a huge garden and we eat very healthy. In the winter I kill us with bad for you types of food. I'd like some guidance about winter food and winter diets. Unforunately I really dislike beans and wild rice.... also I'd love to read up on good eating but I won't lie, it just puts me to sleep. I can't force myself to read on this topic.

Any help for the lazy and winter challenged food purchaser? Baby steps please, your all way more advanced then I????



P.S. we do go for a walk most nights... but not as fast as when I do my tread mill. Is it still good for you if it's not fast?
post #25 of 30
Wendy, I suspect that in Chicago there are food cooperatives. I belong to one (NE) that runs like a grocery store with some paid employees and some work (6 hrs/yr per adult in ea household) from the members. Our apples for example have cost about 85 cents/lb when in the supermarket they are about 1.00 - 1.25 (and up in some markets). We also try to buy from local suppliers in season, have some organic foods (way less than in supermarkets and specialty stores), have organic chicken (1.35 for legs yesterday), some non-hormone beef, dairy, etc as well as a lot of dry goods, King Arthur flour, McCutcheon's preserves...(I'm just giving you a sampling. Everyone makes a capital investment (don't know what it is now, but it increases by about $20/year). Overall, I'm sure that I save about 30% or more over regular markiet prices. On "organics" I believe it may be more as the regular mkts mark that stuff way up.

Some cooperatives have more, some less member participation. Ours is about 30 years old or more, so as its original members began to have families and careers, the amount of partipation decreased and the prices went up a little to pay the staff. But still cheap for what we get. We also have a some input into what is carried. In some coops they even allow for members to pay a little percentage more in lieu of work time. When I get back from my trip I will check at the coop to find out if they know about one in Chgo, if you'd like me to. (There's a boolet that lists many/most of them.)
post #26 of 30
Wendy, I'm going to worry about your diet! So here's a suggestion or three about winter veggies.

Cabbage of all sorts is cheap and VERY nutritious. The simplest way to prepare it and to my mind most delicious: wash it, cut it up into bit sized chunks, put it in a relatively deep bowl so that the plastic you cover it with does not touch the cabbage. Microwave it - probably 10-15 minutes, depending on your microwave. For the first time, I'd go in 5 minute increments til I find it softened but al dente. This method bring out the inherent sweetness of the vegetable and I eat it as is, without even salting it. (but you can add a little salt before cooking). Failing a microwave, steam it. Unless you come from a family where boiled cabbage in all in watery grave is a tradition, this is the only way to go. Also, you get less of the cabbage smell all over the house; hardly any. I treat Brussel sprouts similarly; they tend to be more expensive than cabbage, though.

If you can find some good winter squashes (butternut, acorn, turban and others less well known - the latter tend to be a good bit pricier. Simplest preparation: halve it, scoop out seeds (which can be toasted and eaten) put in a dollop of butter and/or maple/honey or other syrup and bake (45-60 min depending on size) at 325-75f (I tend to bake hotter than many do). Also full of good nutrition.

Sweet potatoes (yams) are very nutritious, also. Bake as for baked potato, or for a real treat, cut them up, rub the bits with some oil, sprinkle with favorite herb if available (dried ok here) and bake in some sort of dish (the squash is also very good this way)

If you buy fruit and vegetables in their seasons, you'll spend less. Forget strawberries in winter, asparagus, turn to the cabbage family, beets, turnips, parsnips, winter squash, pears, apples, oranges.

Kale, chard, turnip greens, collards, chard, spinach, beet greens, escarole, etc. Whatever green leafies are available as winter veggies will be a lot cheaper than lettuce usually and a lot more nutritious. The darker the green, the more nutritious. I don't care for any of these cooked in water, and tend to saute them in a little oil. You can begin by sauting a little onion if you like, or do them straight. Add a pinch of (hot) red peppers if you like that (I don't), or bacon bits if you're not fighting fat. You can eat it Italian style as a sauce with pasta and a grating of cheese as your meal. (Weigh your pasta so that each serving as only 3 - 4 oz if your waistline is an issue).

Some of these vegetables can be grown in your garden and harvested during the winter, planting them as the more tender veggies are harvested. I'm not much of a gardener, but I believe cabbages, beets, kales, parsnips, perhaps some varieties of carrots for awhile. Get Johnny's seed catalog online, I'm sure they have that information. Maine's winter's no better than Chgo. Also if you have good light exposure (southern, etc) make a cold frame, and you can extend your growing season considerably even for some of the more tender veggies such as lettuces and begin some seeds earlier.

And for fruit, try to add at least an apple a day, usually about 2-3 per pound, it shouldn't add more than 50 center/person/day.

Most of all. Give up buying stuff that someone else has prepared for you. First it's full of chemicals to replace the flavors and nutrients that processing has sucked out. Second, you're paying a premium for it. That's where the big bucks go. Ditch sodas (colored sugar water!) - make lemonade with fresh lemons, cheaper and better for you.

We've been brainwashed into thinking 75 cents or more for a can of soda or a bad cup of coffee in a styrofoam cup is cheap enough to grab on the run every day , but apples at $1/lb, etc. are too expensive to eat on a regular basis (nearly $200/yr/person if you only do it workdays . Furthermore, many of these processed foods (including, especially? sweets) have lots of salt (and perhaps other chemicals) that stimulate our appetite so that we eat WAY more than we might of well prepared and more nutritious foods.

Oh, I could go on, but will spare you.
post #27 of 30

Low salt cooking

I have a sodium restriction. Can be a pain. A great cookbok for heart health and insightful low salt cooking is Gazzaniga's No Salt, Low-sodium cookbook. It's farily new and quite good. He can cut sodium to about 500 mg a day and you still eat well. I get by with about 3000 mg as my condition is not blood pressure or heart related.

Phil
post #28 of 30
Alexia, I'm going to look for more recipes using the veggies you mentioned. Thank-you.

I thought sweet potatos and winter squashes were considered starches? Also have to find recipes for them. Traditionally we eat them with tons of butter, br. sugar or marshmellows. I've never had sweet potatos with herbs, which ones are good compliments?

P.S. We don't eat that bad, just too much snacking junk food stuff (in addition to meals). Not enough fish! Twice a week... More like twice every six months. O.k. I went to the store yesterday and bought several kinds, steak is cheaper and I know in my area it's better tasting then fish... it's HARD to not go with a sure thing.

I'm in the far burbs, no co-ops for us yet. We have our own apple trees, asp. patch and such. It's just that we eat a ton of veggies and fruit when they're in season (cause they don't hold) then come winter the produce I get at the store is no comparision and I wind up throwing too much out, then I stop buying it.
post #29 of 30
To roast the veggies, I put some oil in the pan, add the veggies and herbs & shake it about. Some of the veggies take less time to roast, so if doing more than one kind of veggie, pull them out as they are done (or go the other route and add the quicker cooking ones as the baking process goes on).

Personally, I usually break up a head of garlic, without peeling, to add to the pan. I also love roasted onion and add a few of them. If you use small onions, you can just peel and do them whole. For herbs, I tend to use a little thyme, rosemary, sage sometimes.

You can roast virtually ANY veggie. I think I may have neglected to mention eggplant, one of my favorites.

Another possibility is to explore recipes for gratins, tians.

It's true that sweet potatoes are starchy, but they also are very high in Vit A, has about the calcium of 2 oz of milk. And a side benefit is that unlike white potatoes, they're good to eat without adding anything fattening to them.

Another vegetable to try is white turnips (parboil, then saute in butter, add breadcrumbs and when they're browned the dish is done. - or if simpler for you brown the crumbs and add at the end - Oh, a great treat - if somewhat fattening.

Also, I believe I forgot to suggest onions. Just halve them dot with butter and bake (some people put liquid in the dish to keep them soft on the outside). You can stuff them with all sorts of things, too.

Beets, parsnips, carrots are a great winter veggies, and good roasted, too.

Lastly, for something really fresh and green in the winter, try sprouting seeds. Mustard, radish, alfalfa, mung beans (though not green, still fresh). Just be sure to get them without pesticides.
post #30 of 30

I really needed to hear this

Thanks for all this great information. It's good to hear the consenses, when we hear so much conflicting information. You've propelled me to action...
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