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post #31 of 57
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Lol Jeff!
You're right about ins. & Italian men! Heh gumba!
post #32 of 57

Get yourself a meter( Walgreen has a self contained one, all you do is prick the finger and it test. Its about $ 20.00 and requires no  prescription.

\Test yorself once in a while  (this way you catch it early and control it)  . Buba and I have to do it at least 2 times a day.

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post #33 of 57

100 fasting isnt any concern IMO, After eating a number below 200 IMO isnt anything to be overly concerned about.   I agree with getting a Dr. that is much more familiar with diabetes / blood sugar.

post #34 of 57
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thanks dburg30!!

and I think you're right!  The first blood work doc did, Mister had not fasted and his sugar was 164;

I thought that was pretty good considering he had just finish a HUGE breakfast with all the fixin's. 

When I told doctor that, he ordered another prick of the needle. 

BTW, his staff (they're not nurses but Medical asst.) s****!!

They could not hit his vain on either arm, which was as plain as day standing up and saluting them!! 

post #35 of 57

K.      Friday I had a Catscan and they could not get the I,V.  in my arm after 4 tries, so that is not uncommon(2 people tried). I had an IV years ago where they killed the nerves in my arm, because they hit wrong spot to many times. Why they tested in your Hubbys arm is beyond me when it can be done by just pricking his finger. Again get another DR.       EdB

 

 

P/S They don't call it the practice of medicine for nothing, they more or less PRACTICE on us. As I told a Doctor once ""If I make a mistake I could poison people, but  if you make one you could kill them"".

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post #36 of 57
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EdB, I'm so glad that you can guys can make me laugh about this.

I just got back from the "Superstore" and for some strange reason

I found myself standing in front of the meters. 

I came THIS close to buying one, but not knowing which one...

also I have not discussed this is Mister as yet. 

Which one would you guys suggest? 

As you can imagine, he has not been in the best of moods as late.

post #37 of 57

There's all sorts of them out there....different prices, colors, designs, they all have the same function.

I have only used one brand , freestyle lite. I would suggest the cheapest one on the market unless insurance pays for it.

My test strips are close to a buck each!

post #38 of 57
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I think that after this next doctor's visit on Friday, I'm going to bring up getting a meter. 

You guys are right, even testing myself never hurts, well kinda', I have fobia about needles. 

When I was a kid it would take two nurses to hold me down so that I wouldn't bolt down the street!! 

Oh, BTW, Mister (and you all know that I am using this term with great affection) lost another FIVE POUNDS!! 

I'm so proud of him, he turned down my home made pizza yesterday!!

post #39 of 57
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ok, get this guys, my husband needed more blood work prior to his next doctor's visit.  The medical assistant calls today will I was out;  Mister answers the phone and she says, to the best of his recollection, "you don't have diabetes, maybe you should call her back and find out what she was saying".  So...when we go and see doctor on Friday, let's just add to the list of question.  I will be tying him down in the chair until he does!  Oh my gravy and chips!!

post #40 of 57

You didn't ask for advice, so that's why I must give it. Make a nice cup of tea, or margarita. Place yourself in front of you computer. Go to the website

of your health insurance company. Create a list of GP's in your area. Start pulling up their information and any reviews on them. Find all the local endocronologists

names. Call and find a GP that you feel comfortable with. Ask them who is the endo they refer to. Look them up. I check the AMA for every doctor for sanctions or disipline.

You would be surprised how many have sanctions. Some of the ones on our ins. list were finded thousands for not being in the OR during his surgery and thing of that nature.

A lot of fines are for inappropriate behavior with patients. That's why all my Doc's are female but no luck so far.

pan

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post #41 of 57

I'm not a diabetic, but I've recently made a point to increase the protein and decrease the carb intake, and was sad to learn many of my favorite foods, even though not normally considered starches, are high in the carb count. Green beans for example. "What? They're GREEN! Why aren't they good for me?!"  

 

Your husband being italian, you maybe eat more pasta than potatoes (not stereotyping), but keep in mind that there are a lot more root vegetables out there, most of which make a nice mash and have less carbs. Celery root, carrots... etc...

 

Onions and garlic.  They're cheep, make food seem more indulging, and somehow, actually good for diabetics? I thought onions were full of sugar, and would be bad, but they're proven to really help the body control blood sugars. For the same reasons, make sure the carbs that are consumed are whole grain.  The nutrient of whole grain, especially wheat germ often helps the body regulate blood sugar. (Never understood that one either. the germ is the work of photosynthesis, and thought would contain lots of sugar due to chlorophyll)

 

And as far as snacking is concerned, there are plenty of fruits that are good for diabetics. I tried a raw food diet once, eating salad all the time just doesn't work. And fruit was my savior.  Raw apples, pears, and mangoes are all good for diabetics because they're high in fructose and not glucose. Fructose requires no insulin for your body to metabolize.

post #42 of 57
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I’m with you Pan, I prefer female Doctors of all types. 

Sorry guys, but women are maternal (by in large anyway) and intuitive. 

When we lived in Hawaii my husband had two out of five doctors that were ladies. 

And pcieluck, Mahalo plenty!! 

I will let you all know what happens tomorrow. :]

post #43 of 57

No problem. I was a nursing student before i was a culinary arts major.  I've got a little better knowledge of nutrition than your typical culinary arts student, and do my best to benefit others with it.

post #44 of 57

Pcieluck,

Your husband being italian, you maybe eat more pasta than potatoes (not stereotyping), but keep in mind that there are a lot more root vegetables out there, most of which make a nice mash and have less carbs. Celery root, carrots... etc... 

Now you're sure your are no stereotyping???lol.gif

 

 OK lets see. I should cut pasta out of my diet and replace it with mashed celery root and carrots? Oh yum!!

I guess I'll start eating the garlic instead of wearing it around my neckpeace.gif

Your Italian friend

panini

actually good information thx

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post #45 of 57
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... I prefer female Doctors of all types. 

Sorry guys, but women are maternal (by in large anyway) and intuitive... 

 

KG, almost a year ago I had to be put to sleep to be administered electroshocks to my heart. It danced a wild Dominican merengue instead of a Wiener Wals.

When I woke up, my doctors quite young female assistant checked and said she had to perform the therapy in person for the first time, assisted by the doctor of course.

You need to know it's the most gorgeous redheaded, sorry, Venetian blonde, I have ever seen in my young life! I told her how utterly pleased I was that such a young beautiful woman had given me the most memorable "coup de foudre" of my life... Another undiscovered quality of a good female doctor. I still enjoy thinking about this!

post #46 of 57

A good friend of mine is diabetic - she got a blood test, which came out high, and then she had to do another, the glycemic curve I think it's called.  You get the blood tested in the morning before breakfast - then you eat a big and heavily carbohydrate and sugar breakfast, then you test it every hour or something like that.  This is the test for diagnosing blood sugar, because it's not only about the fasting level, but the way it curves after eating and how long it takes to go back down. 

 

If he IS diabetic, watch out for common hearsay beliefs.  Fruit is NOT good.  It has plenty of sugar, and you have to WEIGH it, and can't have much at all.  My friend (who takes insulin, so she has to have more sugars than someone who is controlling it with only diet) can have something like a small apple and half a tangerine in a day - not much at all.  Cherries are out.  Strawberries are better.  Peaches are really sugary and are mostly out - maybe a slice. 

 

There are plenty of foods full of carbohydrates, but some are worse than others, because they turn immediately into sugar in the blood.  My diabetic friend tests herself after EVERY meal and before bed, and has to adjust the amount of food she eats and amount of insulin accordingly - too low blood sugar and she has to have some carbohydrate, too much and she has to increase the insulin. 

I made her bread once with mashed chickpeas in it along with whole wheat flour (no white flour).  She could eat more of that as compared to regular bread (and note, Italian bread has NO sugar added, but american breads do have sugar).  But even then, it had to be weighed, and only a very small amount. 

 

A colleague has diabetes (type B) which he controls only with diet.  In the first year he was in treatment, he had to completely eliminate carbohydrates almost entirely (or perhaps it was entirely).  He would bring a steamed chicken breast for lunch with some vegetables - it was sad.  Now he has it under control and though he rarely tastes a sweet, he can eat bread and pasta in moderation. 

 

Fats are a big problem for diabetics, because diabetes affects all your organs, increases your cholesterol, raises your blood pressure, etc.  You really have to be careful. 

 

If your doctor didn;t give you PRECISE directions on HOW MUCH of WHAT FOODS he can eat, get to someone who will.  Abd don't listen to the advice of people (like me) who are not specialists.  When she's looking for sugar-free products, my friend tells the salespeople (in health food stores no less) that she can't eat sugars because she;s diabetic and they say "well this has only brown sugar" or "only fructose" etc.  Most people are pretty ignorant.

One glaring example is jams made without sugar.  Fruit is extremely sweet, and if you boil it down enough to make jam you've simply reduced the liquid and concentrated the sugars - if it doesn;t go bad it's only because the end product has the same amount of sugar.  The fact that the sugar is from fruit is irrelevant - regular sugar is from beets or cane - being natural doesn;t make it ok. 

 

It's a serious disease which you have to take seriously. 

"Siduri said, 'Gilgamesh, where are you roaming? You will never find the eternal life that you seek...Savour your food, make each of your days a delight, ... let music and dancing fill your house, love the child who holds you by the hand and give your wife pleasure in your embrace.'"
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post #47 of 57

Little late based on the post dates but here's my 2 cents. Fasting glucose of 100 is pushing toward the high range but would be acceptable norm by many standards. Diabetes is a killer, literally. If you're husband's doctor is really concerned about his fasting glucose, he should consider running a Hgb A1C and or sending him for a GTT (glucose tolerance test). These are the true diagnostic indicators for diabetes. As a nurse nothing is more irritating than doctors that tell they're patients they are "border line" diabetics. If he's concerned, get the test. if not, not. Of course this could be MD's nice way of saying lose weight, watch what you eat cuz this could become a problem. But based on your first post this doesn't sound like the case.

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post #48 of 57
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So, we went to see my husband’s GP today to discuss his most recent blood work.  Everything came back great.  No diabetes (even though not four weeks ago he gave me a scare).  Doctor congratulated my husband and shook my hand for the amount of weight that he has lost.  He asked Mister what he had been doing differently, as he was looking at me, and told him to keep up the good work.  It’s amazing how much a few simple changes in diet and exercise and make. Baby steps… I’m bound and determined to keep my husband around for a few more years.  Thanks so much guys for your support and words of wisdom. 

Btw the-boy-nurse his A1C was 6% that's within "normal range" right?  Fasting was 95, non-fasting (had just eaten a HUGE breakfast) was 164.       

I have been doing so much reading on the Internet!!  Ya' know, I'm glade that this topic did come up and get people, and I mean food people, talking about this. 

post #49 of 57
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heh, pan, did you see my malloredddus I made last night?  (see what is the big deal about "fresh" homemade pasta ??)

mister was drolling all day, waiting for dinner and since he has been so good I let him have a small plate NO BREAD!! and a salad...

magiamo!!

post #50 of 57

Should eat less rice. My step mom is a diabetic and she drinks tea.

post #51 of 57
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you're right rgordon82, we love our rice, that's for sure.  Now it's MAYBE once a week and only one scoop no more two scoop rice and one scoop mac salad.

oh yeah, I forgot the-boy-nurse, AAA - LLLOOOO - HA!!  didn't notice your location...

post #52 of 57
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Originally Posted by panini View Post

 

 

 OK lets see. I should cut pasta out of my diet and replace it with mashed celery root and carrots? Oh yum!!

I guess I'll start eating the garlic instead of wearing it around my neckpeace.gif



What I was getting at was; Being of Italian background, he mgith not eat any potatoes as me, being of french and irish decent.  but the meals where he DOES maybe he could substitute for something else. I didnt suggest ANY alternative to pasta, only potatoes.

 

I only know two alternatives to pasta. There's "spaghetti" squash which is very easy to prepare. Simply cut it in half, core it, and roast it for ~40 min. Then pull with a fork

And eggplant, sliced thin and used like sheets of pasta.

post #53 of 57
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you hit that one on the head, hubby doesn't really like potatoes that much, maybe mostly for breakfast but not so much at supper. 

post #54 of 57

A1C of 6% is great. 2hr postprandial (after meal) blood glucose should be under 145. Glucose level15 min after a big ol breakfast doesn't really give you much info. Congrats on the good report!

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post #55 of 57
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I can’t believe my husband; he must have at some point been actually listening to me (WHAT?)

He knew that he had enough carbs already for today and said no thank you to any “starch”

with dinner tonight as I was plotting out our meal. 

You could have knocked me over with a feather. 

I try to break up his portions of carbs throughout the day, seeing as he’s not a diabetic

that the GP thought he was, but he’s doing really well with the weight lose and exercise twice a day. 

He’s up to four miles a day plus a half mile swim (today was cut short due to inclement weather, Monsoon and all).

post #56 of 57

Kaneohe -

I see an endocrinologist whose primary patients are diabetics. I'm seeing him for weight loss, but he's put me on his "standard" diet which he composed for his diabetic patients. Unfortunately, it makes Atkins look like haute cuisine! I suppose I shouldn't grouse ... I've lost over 150 pounds so far. It works. For what it's worth, here it is:

 

NO's...

cereal

bread

pasta

rice

potatoes of any kind

corn

beans

cheese

milk

juice

fruit (except 1 piece per day, the size of a small apple)

fast food

sweets

sugar

fried foods

mayonnaise

alcohol

salad dressing

 

OKs...

Egg Beaters™

oatmeal with water & Splenda™; no milk

beef - lean cuts, no bacon or sausage

chicken

fish

pork - not fatty (bacon or sausage again)

shrimp

seafood

protein shakes

EAS Advantage™ shakes (whey protein powder)

salad oil (olive oil and vinegar)

green leafy vegetables; non-starchy

carrots

onions

mushrooms

one fruit per day the size of a small apple

calcium 500mg 3 times a day

multivitamins

 

The rationale for the starches and carbs is that carbs are just complex sugars. Those are naturally a big no-no for diabetics. I've started actually reading nutrition labels (!) for the carbs. You'd be amazed at the load we're giving ourselves, even with "healthy" foods! Don't believe the promotional language. Read the labels. eg -  "health" cereals are sometimes worse than "regular" ones. It's amazing. And just TRY to find any packaged (frozen) dinners that don't have carbs as a primary ingredient. Good luck.

 

What works for me is to start my day with a protein shake. I don't know where you are, so I don't know if you have access to a Publix supermarket. I love their store brand shakes. I've tried most of the other ones (even the EASs, which most people say they like, taste like chalk beside the Publix brand), and I don't like any of them. I've tried the Special K or Kelloggs (whatever it is)... I also tried the Glucerna (my husband has just been diagnosed with weight-associated Type 2, so we're both on this diet!), and they all taste nastified to me. If you don't have a Publix locally, it might be worth it to contact them and see if they'll drop-ship their shakes by the case. There's only 6 in a pack, and that doesn't even last a week here! They make the standard 3 flavors: chocolate, strawberry, and vanilla. I only use the first two. I tried the vanilla with a variety of flavor additives, and it's still bland. Not chalky, just not very tasty. The shakes themselves taste sweet and creamy. I'd probably drink them even if not for the diet-from-hell. };> Anyway, I only drink half of one when I first get up to get my meds down. The nutrition count on that is 120 calories; 20 carbs; and 5 protein. That holds me comfortably until midafternoon, when I eat my primary meal.

 

Despite my doctor's admonition about beans, I've recently gotten him to bend to french-cut green beans. He wants the little bean seeds out, of all things! sheesh  So I eat lots of veggies (unfortunately, nothing in the cabbage family agrees with me, so I'm severely limited in choices) and salad (when I can; other digestive issues complicate that too - roughage is tough for me to take much of). I've discovered that sauteed mushrooms make an awesome main dish! And I actually like Egg Beaters™ (30 cal, 1 carb, 6 protein).  Maybe that's because I haven't had much variety to choose from ... but I can't tell much difference with omelets. They make them "whites only" (yolks are off "the list" too!).  Whole hard-boiled eggs aren't too bad either. I think the count on those is something in the vicinity of 80 cal, 0 carbs, and 6 protein. I've also discovered that I can get away -with some grumbling- with a couple sorts of bread-y things: one are the really tiny mini-pitas; the ones that are about 2" in diameter. Their serving portion is 5 pieces, and I think that comes to around 100 calories and minimal carbs. That's from memory, I won't swear to it. I only eat about 2 at a time, so that works. I put salad or veggies and sometimes a small piece of cheese or meat in them. Cheese is not on the "good" list, and it's evident I'm "cheating"! But I try to cheat with things I've read the labels on, so it's not too bad. The other bread-y thing I break down over is a bread made by Pepperidge Farm™ called "Very Thin" and it comes in white or wheat. Their serving size is 3 slices, but I cut that to one (40 cal, 6 carb, 1 protein). It's similar in shape and taste to Pullman loaves, and makes incredibly yummy toast. I use "I Can't Believe It's Not Butter", the original version, and a 2 T portion of that is 70 cal, 0 carbs, and 0 protein. And while cheese is "officially" off the list, I will rarely break down and have a slice of American, gods forbid... 60 cal, 1 carb, 4 protein. I happen to love canned beets, especially if I can get S&W brand julienne beets (1/2 cup = 35 cal, 8 carbs, 1 protein). I like broths, so that tends to "round out" (?) my protein requirements. There's a beef-mushroom that's pretty tasty. I make homemade onion soup when I'm feeling especially inspired, but that's a long process. Lots of things I'm permitted to eat go well in either chicken or beef broth.

 

So there are things to choose from. You just have to be ridiculously judicious in choosing them! Read labels. "Cheat" with lo-carb things, if you have to cheat. Eat as much protein as you can stomach. I'm allowed all the protein I can swallow. Unfortunately, that goes in the same category as roughage for me; I've got more than one thing going on, health-wise, and neither of them work together, alas. I can go on "binges" with seafood! At least I don't have to hang my head in chagrin for cheating  LOL

 

Like your husband, starches have always been my downfall. I don't have much of a sweet tooth ... but I think I could live on bread and cheese and rice. Oh, how I crave rice. <sniff>

Well, I hope any of this is of use to you. Good luck in creating a diet you can live with. Food used to be a joy! not so much anymore. But we'll live longer if we can get it manageable. We're told that my husband's diabetes will likely disappear if he can get his weight down; and I'm (hopefully) not going to be on a reduction diet forEVER!  I'm praying so, at least. I'm actually starting to worry when the doctor tells me we'll "start adding things" at some point ... and I'll have to tell him, oh no "we" won't: I can't eat those things any more!  <sigh> But I'm not going there yet. Fifty more pounds to go! woo-hoo!!!  =D

 

~vicki~

 

post #57 of 57
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Wow Vicki! 

I'm so impressed with you and your husband, you've got it goin' on girl!! 

Thank you so much for sharing with me (us) and I will pray for you as well. 

Fifty more pounds to go, not bad!! 

As for my mister, well, that's a story for another day, but he's plugging away.

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