Food Network: The Big Waste - Page 4

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Originally Posted by PeteMcCracken 

Foodpump,

 

The last word sums it up; "consumed"!

 

If it is not consumed, it is never purchased. If it is never purchased, it is never sold. If it won't sell, it will not be:

• Produced
• Harvested
• Graded
• Processed
• Transported

 

I guarantee that if the consumers of whatever product refuse to buy it, changes will take place.

 

Can you imagine what would happen if no one ate fast food for one week?

 

Can you imagine what would happen if no one bought tomatoes that were not locally grown?

 

 

It's frightening how much power a consumer has yet does not use.  I love the concept of "vote with your dollars"

The unfortunate fact is that bad food is cheap and easy to find, good food is expensive and hard to find.  Unless good food becomes a little cheaper I'm afraid this country is nutritionally doomed.  McDonalds isn't going to stop their advertising.

Oh did you hear?  Burger King now delivers.  Bad food, cheap, and now you don't even have to move your butt out of the chair to get it.  Ordering pizza tonight?  Do it online, you don't even have to dial a number anymore.  How can fresh food compete with that?

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Originally Posted by foodpump 

All I'm saying is this:

 

Broaden your knowledge about food and how it's grown, made, sold, and consumed. 

 

Watch a few Netflix documentaries and you're an expert apparently.  Like it or not double arches and friends are the most successful restaurant in the world.  You can honestly say you think it's only because of advertising?  You think that lowly of the public?  That they'll shuffle like zombies anywhere that pays for a TV ad?  Its a vertically integrated monster, but get over yourself and I think you'll find that they secretly do a lot of things well.  As for supermarkets, they sell what sells.  Yes they offer out-of-season produce, I personally have no use for it but I fail to see how offering more choices is a fundamental flaw with the food distribution system as the in-season stuff is still available.  Thank your stars that not everyone is a classically trained cook who is familiar with seasonal cooking.  If they were our skills become a lot less marketable.

All I'm saying is this:

Maybe this system you detest isn't about stupid people but rather a matter of money.  Valuable stuff to know when working in the business of food.

Benway-

While I agree with most of your post, my question is this-

Is your derision such a point of pride that you have to put down others' views?

Sorry dude, I don't do netfix or whatever, haven''t watched tv for the last, oh..ten years now.

Yes, I think the public is that stupid, just ask Visa/MC

Perhaps I should research how much in % of gross sales the chains and franchises put into advertising. Maybe Coke too.  Kelloggs I know is over 40%

Oh,and btw,  BK and KFC as well as Pizza hut had delivery via 50 cc motorcycles in Singapore since the late 90's. 

McDonalds makes their money from real estate. It's not about the food at all.

Ah what a first post.  This thread is full of frank opinions, and sometimes the words we choose can make a difference in how our opinions are viewed.  Everyone please take a deep breath and remember I am entrusted with great power on this forum.  That includes the smite button.  No, I won't smite you, but let this serve as a reminder that this thread is not heading in the proper direction.

Thank you.

ditto....I'd love to see how different cities work through their food waste issues.  Or how different community's environmental programs function.

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Originally Posted by mrmexico25 

kuan, as the OP, I would be very disapointed if this post were deleted just because of strong opinions.  It's a serious topic, and even though some people dont want to take it seriously, it's naturally going to evoke some strong emotions - which in my opinion is good for the forum. 

 

There's a lot of constructive input being added, a lot of stuff I've already started practicing.  So just because there has been a lot of pointless arguing, there has been plenty of beneficial stuff too. 

I wouldn't do that.  I'd just remove the people who cannot seem to rise above the noise.

You know, I definitely thought I had put my comment in the least offensive way I could think of. Therefore, I think my comment was deleted because it expressed viewpoints that are not necessarily in line with those of the authority here.

Mr. Mod, please delete my account with this website, if you could. I doubt I will ever return here since I can't contribute "useful" things from my perspective. Bye bye.

I must agree with MrMex. people's passion for change must be served raw to get the full flavor. Still it would not hurt to garnish with a little etiquette when counteracting to a fellow foodie's opinion.

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Originally Posted by Nonfoodie 

You know, I definitely thought I had put my comment in the least offensive way I could think of. Therefore, I think my comment was deleted because it expressed viewpoints that are not necessarily in line with those of the authority here.

 

Mr. Mod, please delete my account with this website, if you could. I doubt I will ever return here since I can't contribute "useful" things from my perspective. Bye bye.

If you walked into a party where you didn't know anyone and right off the bat started insulting everyone by calling them stupid then I would expect the host to intervene.  The door is always open for discussion and debate but manners are expected.
 

Bravo Koukou

Well said.

Or, as we Scots would say 'Dinnae let the door hit your bum oan the way oot'!

LOL Mr.Mexico. It's AG my friend. 

As for that "other plant" ... the trick there is proper "gender" planting. I'm serious here too. You need four(4) female plants and one(1) male plant. You plant them in a four(4)" square box two(2)" deep, evenly spaced, in the arrangement like a 5-pip on a dice, male plant in the middle. Proper watering and proper lighting is important. Not too much water. You can use an additive such as "Shultz's", just go lightly. Proper light should follow the general times on-off as you would find in a place like Arizona. Improper lighting will screw things up. 

OH!?!            I thought you were talking about oregano. 

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Originally Posted by Ishbel 

Or, as we Scots would say 'Dinnae let the door hit your bum oan the way oot'!

That's it, from now on every post you make MUST be spelled out in a Scottish accent. 

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Originally Posted by PeteMcCracken 

This makes absolutely no sense!

 

Why in the world would you expect the farmer to pay transportation and handling for a product that will not sell?

 

Now, if you convince the consumer to buy the imperfect product, then there might be some sense.

 

Farmers make no money on unmarketable product, why would you increase their costs?

 

For the record, I am an Ag Engineer and worked for too many years as a farm manager to let this kind of thinking pass uncorrected.

 

Take a trip through a packing house of your choice and see whether you have a different viewpoint.
 

 

Pete , I understand your point about farmers paying transportation cost, and it is going to take convincing consumers to buy flavor over looks, which I have stated in an earlier post, and when it come to shipping fruit and veggies grown in California and shipping it to Chicago that would bankrupt them in no time, but regionally grown products going to local farmers markets then they will save some of their product from the land fill and bring in money that they would not have made otherwise, where I live in Tennessee the are a lot of farmers  markets, of course this is by no means a complete solution but only a step in the right direction, to truly eliminate the problem of food waste it's going to take a complete change of national attitude, plan and simple it's going to take a whole lot of change at a whole lot of levels

I watched the show, finally (had it on DVR) and I was just taken aback!

I have become very aware of what I am doing now with our food stuffs.

I went to the Megamart today and found that the prepackaged veggies had expired 3 days ago, and still on the shelf.

Would it be appropriate to ask the manager to reduce the price for me rather than throw it out?

You should have seen what they were about to throw out!

A HUGE garbage can of produce that looked okay to me if you were going to eat it right away.

What’s really amazing is the serious garbage put out by Hollywood these days and so many still watch this crap. Talk about waste!!! Clearly our notorious education system is still hard at work to dumb down our society.  

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Originally Posted by kaneohegirlinaz 

I watched the show, finally (had it on DVR) and I was just taken aback!

I have become very aware of what I am doing now with our food stuffs.

I went to the Megamart today and found that the prepackaged veggies had expired 3 days ago, and still on the shelf.

Would it be appropriate to ask the manager to reduce the price for me rather than throw it out?

You should have seen what they were about to throw out!

A HUGE garbage can of produce that looked okay to me if you were going to eat it right away.

 

Yes that is appropriate!  You'd be surprised that if you ask for anything nicely enough you'll usually end up getting it.

How, exactly, do you equate Hollywood with the public education system?

Okay, I challenge everyone!

 I took my Mother grocery shopping today, and we went to a quite large, higher end grocery store that is found across the country.  We found packed Persian Cucumbers that had expired 3 days ago.  I looked for  the store manager and pointed this out; asking for a drastic discount, we paid barely nothing!  At first my Mom was, "No don't do that", and I said no, I knew that she would eat them within a few days.    

I challenge you, search out the food stuffs that you know darn well are about to be thrown out and purchase or haggle the store manager for and feed to your family.  I did it, and I'll do it again!

Too funny, so called "professionals" saying they are not impressed by what they can learn on the food network!  I am a computer consultant and I am insulted by the quality of computer education garbage put out by the video professor on late night TV! Ba ha ha ha. I thin FN does a nice job mixing in entertainment and some educational value with their shows. I have learned a thing or two , but I do not profess to be able to keep up with a culinary schoold graduate either. I think the big was was valueable information presented in an entertaining way. I would not have enjoyed a NOVA episode on the same topic as much. I was not aware that farms thow out up to half of what they produce. I guess that partly explains why flavorless, gassed green tomatoes cost $3.29 per pound in the market. I don;t think they were saying there is a high profit business opportunity selling a menu made up of discarded seconds. If you think that was the point, you should stick to Jersey Shore that has no point except exactly what you see, pointless drinking a sleeping around.