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Stones' durability or lifespan in EP sizes?

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I'm evaluating the options ahead of me for sharpening my knives, and am keenly interested in the ease (of learning) and results-repeatability afforded by the Edge Pro system.

 

My question, then, is how long can stones last in the EP's size? I'm considering getting the Chosera package.

 

Contrary to popular belief, I don't actually prepare kaiseki feasts every other night, so my knives aren't really getting used that much. Let's assume for a moment that I clean up the edges of my two or three main carbon knives on an Idahone every use, and polish them with the finer grades once a month or so. How long can I expect the finer Choseras to last?

post #2 of 7

Mark's stones @ CKtG are much thinner than the original ones that Ken was cutting.  I can say the thicker ones from Ken have been going strong for a couple of years doing all my knives plus those of about a dozen co-workers.  I doubt you'd ever wear out anything above the 1k unless you sharpen for a living.  The aratos of course will wear faster.  I like DMTs & Atoma diamond plates for the coarse work and Choceras for the rest.

"Excellence is an art won by training and habituation. We do not act rightly because we have virtue or excellence, but we rather have those because we have acted rightly. We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act but a habit." - Aristotle
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post #3 of 7

You're probably steeling too often, and actually weakening your edges.  But if you're very gentle and only use a couple, three strokes on each side of each knife, you're only hastening the inevitable sharpening by a little. 

 

The current Choseras are thick enough so that the medium and fine stones (1K, 3K, 5K) will likely last a typical home sharpener nearly forever.  Like Phaedrus, I don't use coarse Choseras in the EP.  I'm not sure if Phaedrus uses the 10K or not; but I don't.  I polish those knives of mine capable of taking a very fine finish either on a bench stone Gesshin 8K or on a strop.  But that's me.  Not recommending, just saying.

 

A DMT XXC is an excellent and efficient flattener.  I see Atomas, which are better, more expensive, and which can actually be resurfaced, as overkill for flattening; but since I only use diamond plates for flattening and not for profiling I can't comment on whether their superiority makes them worth their price.  In any case, drywall screen is a fine flattener, especially for cut down stones like those you use in an EP, if you don't already have a diamond plate.

 

BDL

post #4 of 7

I feel the 140 EP Atoma is well worth the price for sharpening, not just flattening.  When it's new it's nearly as fast as a belt grinder, no lie!  It's much better than the DMT Dia-Sharp line, although a bit more expensive.

 

The Chocera 10k is one of my favorite stones, although I sometimes finish with the 8k "Snow White".  Mostly I use Chocera stones on my knives and Shaptons on everyone elses.wink.gif

"Excellence is an art won by training and habituation. We do not act rightly because we have virtue or excellence, but we rather have those because we have acted rightly. We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act but a habit." - Aristotle
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post #5 of 7
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Thanks again. I think, for starters, I'll go with Mark's EP Chosera kit along with the Atoma for profiling my older blades. As my obsession waxes I will probably add some bench stones and learn some party tricks.

post #6 of 7

I think you'll be very happy with the Choceras.

"Excellence is an art won by training and habituation. We do not act rightly because we have virtue or excellence, but we rather have those because we have acted rightly. We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act but a habit." - Aristotle
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"Excellence is an art won by training and habituation. We do not act rightly because we have virtue or excellence, but we rather have those because we have acted rightly. We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act but a habit." - Aristotle
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:) It's an expensive kit, no joke, but I think it will prove its worth by keeping my growing high-end blade collection performing at its best. Being able to rehab my older knives along with those of my friends and family will be a bonus (and help get more value from the kit).

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