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I have cooked beef stew, porkchops, flank steaks, & sirlion and it all end up tasting liver....YUK!  Why is that and How do I get rid of it?  I've slowed cook it and I had prepped it on high, low, medium flame and no such luck. I've used vinegar, wine (white & red), tons of onions, even garlic.  Nada!   Now, when put no efforts in caring for the liver taste its when it becomes perfect to the taste.  This is far and few occassion since I resigned from making red meat dishes.  I leave that job to some other family member to do. 

 

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Thank you for your help.

 

 

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How odd.  Cooking on high vs. low heat really depends on the cut of meat itself.  For example, meat for stew would need to be seared on high heat and then once all the wet ingredients are added would need to cook for a long time on low heat.  Pork chops would need a relatively high heat.  It's hard to help you though without knowing what recipes and techniques you are using so if you could provide that we'd be able to help you.

 

I find meat that has very low fat content (like beef tenderloin) to have a bit of liver taste and prefer meats with higher fat content.

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A liver taste often results from meat which is less than fresh, or was improperly aged. 

  • Where do you buy your meat? 
  • How do you handle it when it's still raw? 
  • How long do you keep it? 
  • How well do your refrigerator and freezer work? 
  • What are their respective temperature settings?

 

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A liver taste often results from meat which is less than fresh, or was improperly aged. 

 

Aren't there also some cuts that are closer to the liver and that taste more like liver than others? I believe I read this once on this very forum - not sure. I have also noticed some cuts tasting like liver a few times, and it was on steaks bought from a reputable source and cooked right away. I have never had that problem with rib-eye, but I've noticed it with other cuts (can't remember which unfortunately). 

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I buy my meats at a local supermarket, either pathmark, shop n stop, and Costco.  Usually, when I buy red meat I store it right away in the Freezer. I separate the meats and store it in ziplock bags.   When ready to use I thaw it for a day at the bottom level.  Then prep for seasoning(salt, peppers, sofrito, onion and garlic powder). 
 

I do not leave the meat lingering around on the counter table before setting to cook.  I usually have it high flame to create that seared texture and lower it down to cook for a long while. 

 

It still has that liver taste.  Yuk!

 

It's interesting that you say, liver taste may be because of the meat not being fresh.  Unless the food stores are falsiying the information on the ticket I try to get the one that is furthest away from the expired date.  

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Aside from the nuance of the freezing, storing, etc...you just might be incredibly sensitive to some of the aspects of the meat itself.  Perhaps iron?  Since the meats you list are not exclusively beef, I am going to say that you should look into that.  Does this happen when you have a meat dish out or at a friends?  The only other thing I would wonder is how long do you freeze your meats for typically prior to consumption?  Given that you rarely eat meat, I would suggest seeking out the best possible in your locale.

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I usually try to eat the meat the week I buy it.  I never have that liver taste problem when I eat red meat at a friends or resturant for that matter.  It just when I prep it.  Even my mothers red meat is better tasting than mine and I try to replica her technique but she puts the same thing as I do.  So Im at a lost.  Arghhh!

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What kind of pan are you using?

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Aluminum and also the iron cast.  Mostly, on the first. 

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Try a non aluminum pan.

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post #11 of 16

Some cuts of meat usually muscle generally are stronger in taste and flavor. Also diet of the animal, if a cow eats corn all day which is not natural to it the beef will taste stronger, Maybe try organic beef.  Meat that has sat in blood for any length of time is basiclaly marinating in blood, and will be stronger in flavor. Age of cow also makes a difference older is stronger.

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post #12 of 16

Do you happen to take medication for cholesterol?  My husband does and has the same complaint.  It does not matter what cut of beef I choose, he says it tastes like liver.  The only exception is my marinated T-bones that I grill over charcoal.

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In 2008, R. Wadhwani submitted his graduate thesis at the University of Utah on the the very subject of liver off-flavor in beef steak (Google: "Cause and prevention of liver off flavor" for the pdf).  Around page 22 of his thesis he presents his hypothesis that the liver off-flavor is a result of inefficient blood drainage from the beef carcass. Given that beef liver itself is saturated with hemoglobin/myoglobin giving it its very distinctive taste, and the fact that the liver (and other organ meat) is removed immediately upon slaughter thus sustaining the blood content, I see no fault with his hypothesis. My understanding is that the off-flavor is further heightened by prolonged storage, such as freezing; where the meat is practically marinating in its own blood.

 

Knowing what we do now of the practices in the big commercial beef producers/slaughterhouses, it's not surprising that the time needed to properly raise and process a cow is not a priority for them. To avoid this unpleasant taste in what you hope to be a nice steak dinner I suggest you do not purchase your beef from any of the mega grocery chains. I only occasionally indulge in a steak dinner -- because when I do it is fresh, USDA prime, local, grass-fed, and raised free of added hormones and antibiotics -- and yes, it costs more.
 

post #14 of 16
Aluminum pans might react and cast iron might hold in old flavor because most people don't wash them. Try stainless steel.

Since you complain about the taste in all kinds of meat, including pork, and not just the "livery" cuts of steak, my guess would be the type of oil you are using. I never use Canola, it tastes like fish when heated. Other oils have off-putting flavors, as well,when heated. If you use no oil at oil, that also may be the culprit.

Start with something like a NY strip, salt and pepper it and leave it for 15-20 minutes for the juices to start re-absorbing, and for the steak to come to room temperature. Heat the pan until it feels warm when you hover your hand about 3" from the surface, Put 2-3 Tablespoons of Butter (not margarine) in the pan. As soon as that's melted put the steak in. Let it sit for 5-7 minutes, then flip it over and cook it for another 5 minutes (this is medium well-well). Take it out,put it on a plate, pour pan juices over it, and let it rest a few minutes before you cut into it.

I forgot, the pan should be on medium heat, and Rinse the steak and pat it dry.

Try to eat it with a salad with vinegarette to cut the fat a little.

If it doesn't taste like liver, it was your oil. If it still tastes like liver, ya got me.

I use mostly butter, olive oil (Filippo-Berio), or grape seed oil for frying.

Good luck!
post #15 of 16

I worked in a slaughter house and that liver flavor comes from leaving the digestive system in the cow to long.

post #16 of 16

I hear your frustration Azusena!

Since you are ALL EARS then here you go...

When I first read your top post I immediately thought you had a medical condition that is causing this taste in your mouth.  You kind of eliminated that possibility when you mentioned that other peoples cooking does not cause the same effect as when you do it.  Assuming it's not a psychosomatic condition (you're making up the symptoms for yourself) then obviously it's something in your environment.

I like Toshiko's input that excessive blood may be causing this problem combined with BDL's insight on the fridge not being cold enough which could be causing excessive blood leakage from the muscle tissue.  In that vein of thought, I would propose that you Kosherize your meat before cooking (not a religious reference) but to salt your meat using kosher salt. Meaning to place a large quantity of Kosher (or pickling) salt crystals on each surface of the meat and let it stand in the fridge for 30 to 60 min.  Don't use table salt because it will dissolve too quickly and completely. The purpose is that salt crystals that remain on the surface will draw out the blood and serum from the meat.  Rinse under cold running water and pat dry before cooking. This technique makes for very tasty steak!

 

Good luck!

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