Edited by tasunkawitko - 9/18/12 at 7:12pm
Helfen, Wehren, Heilen
Die Wahrheit wird euch frei machen
aye, that's what i said....
Along about the same time, western tribes began to receive other very basic (and often low-quality) staples such as beef, bacon, hardtack, sugar, coffee, flour, salt and lard. These staples were, at first, bestowed by the "generous White Father" upon America's "domestic dependent nations" as gifts during treaty negotiations, and also as resulting annuities once the treaties were concluded. Later, as the tribes were systematically conquered, subjugated, relocated or simply herded onto reservations, frybread emerged as an improvised product of the government-enforced dependency on federal rations and, later, commodities.
hi, edg, and thank you for your outstanding information. no worries about hijacking - i enjoy seeing where discussions go and am always willing to learn.
you are of course correct with this:
having a minor in n/a studies, i should know better, but now and then i let my own personal experiences get in the way of complete and total academic accuracy. my personal frybread "experience" comes from families in the northern plains, and also somewhat in the southern plains and southwest in the late 19th and early 20th centuries. at first i thought it was a thing limited to those areas, but my research indicated it was much wider-spread than that, with examples of some variations stretching across the continent in many forms, including going back to pre-1492 days, but those versions as you know, are very different. anyway, i saw so many tribes listed in my research that i went with the wide brush, turning it into a "pan-indian" thing in my enthusiasm, but of course you are correct that it was not a common denominator. i'll most likely edit my text to something a little more demographically accurate, or elminate the phrase altogether, because i want to do this subject justice.
thanks again for your comments, and especially for your notes on how the Haudenosaunee make such interesting bread (that also sounds very delicious!). and as i said, never worry about hijacking one of my threads - i'm here to discuss and learn ~
Thanks very much for the beautiful pictorial, the historical background and diverse recipe options for Native American Indian Fry Breads. Perhaps, one day I shall give it a try in Madrid.
thanks for the kind words, I too minored in NA studies and as you are probably aware there are mixed feelings about sanctifying fry bread within the NA community.
I kind of lump it together with "All things NA according to (most) of the Angelo community", you know like dream catchers, tee pees, sweat lodges and turquoise.
If your interested in my thoughts from a historical NA perspective feel free to pm me as I do not think it appropriate here.
Anyway, thanks for the thread.