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post #31 of 39

Comparing Arsenic to MSG as far as both being natural is crazy. One is a science proven poison . The other has never been science proven, nor is it a poison.  Would you sprinkle arsenic on your food or incorporate it in . I doubt it.

 

Arsenic by the way years ago was given to infants when their digestive track could not keep food down. Minute amount of arsenic was given to open the organs that led to th stomach. Don't believe me ask an older gastro doctor. Plus I know first hand, as I was one of those babies.

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post #32 of 39

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Originally Posted by ChefDave11 View Post

Arsenic is ALSO a naturally occurring chemical in foods.

 

 

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Comparing Arsenic to MSG as far as both being natural is crazy. 

 

I agree it's kinda crazy.

So....you're saying that arsenic isn't natural, but rather a man-made laboratory chemical?

post #33 of 39

I use MSG all the time, at work and at home.  There are Millions of Asian people that use MSG like Americans use salt except it has a lower sodium content than salt so they are not all dying of heart disease.  Now they use things like Soy Sauce(MSG), Oyster Sauce(MSG), Fish Sauce(MSG), Tomato powder(MSG), and Umami powder(MSG) in the US and its all the same thing just under a different name. 

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post #34 of 39

I use MSG since years, but these days my wife, who is Chinese and a good cook, after reading a lot of reviews (in Chinese), talks horrible things about MSG and many times replace it with a touch of sugar. It's not the same of course, but close enough. For her, not for me. Anyway, if MSG is bad for our health, we should avoid all other condiments and sauces, as soy sauce, fish sauce (!), oyster sauce, canned products, etc, etc. -the list is endless- all of them containing a good amount of MSG.

Now, i'm half deaf, but that may be because...

post #35 of 39

Read what I said, I did not dispute that it is not a naturally occuring thing. I did say your anology was wrong as it is  a proven poison  whereas MSG  is not proven to bother anything.So how can you compare its like apples and oranges

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post #36 of 39
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Read what I said, I did not dispute that it is not a naturally occuring thing. I did say your anology was wrong as it is  a proven poison  whereas MSG  is not proven to bother anything.So how can you compare its like apples and oranges

You can ingest a certain amount of arsenic before it poisons you, too.  After all, it's naturally occurring in food.

And I didn't say that MSG is a poison same as arsenic is, just that they are both natural.

My analogy is correct - you're just reading too far into it.  Kombu - Apricots; MSG - Arsenic.  Although that's flawed too because of the inherent differences between MSG in whole foods versus MSG that's been extracted.

post #37 of 39

And yet, still nothing peer reviewed...

 

Paracelsus is still right. "Everything is poison. All that matters is the dose."

post #38 of 39

WOW. This sure is a hot thread. 

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"And those who were seen dancing were thought to be insane by those who could not hear the music."

I'm not sayin', I'm just sayin'.

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post #39 of 39

A certain amount as you state wont kill you right away, but arsenic builds up and done over a certain amount of time will kill you(woman have killed husbands like this) a little bit however will make you sick and lethargic.As I stated above I was treated with it when I was an infant it makes you sick and opens lines to stomach .  Arsenic appears quite a bit in potatoes, but it is then cooked out.

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