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post #1 of 12
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Hey Ya'll,  Last night I fixed prime rib (started with $100 prime rib which I dry aged for nine days)  and only one guest liked it.  Four guests turned their noses up stating "We don't like this type of food but for next time we like hamburgers and pizza.  The beef was the best my husband and I have ever eaten and we have had many.  Question:  How did these 20-30 year olds get this way and how (if possable) can I fix it.  It breaks my heart that they have no idea what good food is. 

post #2 of 12

Dry aged beef is an aquired taste and while 9 days isnt that long it is long enough to begin to get that nutty earthy flavor and aroma that is usually equated with dry aged meats.  I have found that if you start with baby steps its much easier to run when you want to.  Maybe a nice wet aged Strip or Skirt Steak rather than a dry aged Rib is the way to go and work or ease them into the heavier flavored cuts. 

If you were to feed somebody who has never had fish before their first cut would you start with a simple light flavored fish like a Halibut/Cod that has been steamed or would you go in for the kill with something like a Salmon/Makrel that has been seared to really intensify and bring out the flavors?

Taste: The sensation derived from food, as interpreted thru the tongue to brain sensory system.
Flavor: The overall impression combining taste, odor, mouthfeel and trigeminal perception.
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Taste: The sensation derived from food, as interpreted thru the tongue to brain sensory system.
Flavor: The overall impression combining taste, odor, mouthfeel and trigeminal perception.
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post #3 of 12

well MommaT, IMHO, I think that the down fall of American Kids appetite started when a certain something/someone (now I'm not talkin' politics here) stepped into the lunch room.  For myself, I went to a private school were a hot lunch was included with our tuition.  All the way through to High School, it was a ...

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Then in my Senior year of High School, they said that they weren't allowed to serve us what we had been eating all those years, because the school was being subsidized by that certain something/someone and they made the rules now as to what we could and couldn't eat.

I never had a Chicken Nugget until that point.

I still don't really care for foods that are fatty, full of salt and preservatives, basically processed foods I guess, which is what I've seen our children being given in schools today. 

But it does start in the home, when kids are little.  Our youngest grand-nieces get as many organic fruits and veggies that our Niece can get a hold of.  Along with a mixture in their diet of lean proteins, we're talkin' real food now, and they love it.  This is the Niece who would only eat hot dogs and kraft mac&cheese until she had her own children!

Wait, was I rambling?  That topic kinda' got my dander up...

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post #4 of 12

Have niece in her early 30's.  She DIDN'T have the greatest upbringing and never learned basic cooking techniques.  When she got married... got a S-load of NICE kitchen stuff thru her registry??  KA stand mixer, food processor, NICE knives, etc.  BUT she didn't COOK!  Her kitchen "junk" drawer was full of take-out menus!  When 1st baby (now 4) came along, she wanted to be a SOHM... but thought she would HAVE to go back to work... NOT a high paying job.  We did a little (no calculator required) math... what would child care cost + what would she make working = IN THE HOLE!!  Told her she HAD to learn basic cooking and save a bundle.  First time visiting new baby, took along chili and rice to cook.  My chili is fine, but youda thought I could wind some chili contest with it... they way they raved!?!  They often have friends over to watch football on weekends... told her she could feed 8-10, maybe more... for $8-10 worth of ingredients that were needed for the chili/rice.

 

For a while, I would bombard her with EASY recipes... what to do with a lb of ground beef, what to do with chicken (whole or pieces).  SIL thught she read them all but rarely tried them??  She has ventured into cooking and thoroughly enjoys her time with the TWO kids.  She needed to know that you don't need elaborate recipes to make great meals.  A whole chicken, S&P, and into oven can be pretty darn tasty.  On Saturday, she told me about a recipe for "gravy" she got from a true Italian... she better send it my way soon!

post #5 of 12

I have worked with many young people in my career that have not had the opportunity to grow up eating food.

By food I mean, proteins, veggies, and starches.

Most of them never had experience handling raw meat, poultry, fish, seafood and most vegetables.

To this day even my family members still count canned peas, corn as their only vegetables.

This type of this is instilled at home and very few people still cook.

 

It's a sad state of things, but it is the norm now.

post #6 of 12

As a 19 year old I can relate to this, for example I took some friends out to a steakhouse on me ( don't recall why I was being nice. Probably a gift card) I told them order whatever you want my friend ordered a plain and dry hamburger, we go to a local Mexican food place, he orders a hamburger plain and dry. It blows my mind, I have sat down to lunch before at the dining hall where I go to college with whatever is in the cafeteria section (where they have actual decent more homecooked meals as opposed to fast food) and a huge pile of fruits and my friends are stunned as to why I am eating fruits, and how I could like fruits and veggies soooo much. ( I really do love them).

 

I personally am stunned as to why they don't like them. I feel part of it is Fast food, the convenience especially among busy teens which most of us are. We want it quick and don't have time to make a good meal(or so we think). So they grow into a habit of eating Burgers and pizza and nothing else, and don't want nicer foods.

 

My suggestion for changing it: ease them into it. Start out with something they are familiar with but make it better than normal, for example a burger but maybe cook some bacon in the patty, add a cheese besides craft singles maybe make a nice sauce to go on it use a bun besides your standard bun. or do basic pasta dishes or rice dishes ease them into better foods. Another great way is if they are interested get them in the kitchen, and show them a simple easy recipe that's quick. Chicken Parm is easy go to and incredibly cheap that was actually the meal that got me into cooking.The friend who got a burger at a steakhouse I made chicken parm bites for a party I went to he was at ate them asked me what I did because he said they were the best chicken bites he'd ever had I told him the recipe and explained how he could use it to make normal chicken parm and he realized how easy and simple it was the next weekend he made a classy dinner for his girlfriend (who was incredibly pleased and surprised considering her parents are both chefs who trained in France) and he got more into food, the same thing happened with my brother cause I had him get in the kitchen and help me make a dish I wanted to test before I brought it in for a class I was in. Now he says he finds himself cooking more often because its cheaper and easier than he thought.

 

Basically you have to ease them out, if you bust out your top of the line 100 dollar pieces of meat it's like handing a brand new Mustang Shelby Cobra to a 5 year old, you are wasting something beautiful for someone who doesn't appreciate it or understand it.

 

I hope that makes sense I feel like I rambled a lot, but I feel your pain and wish you luck

J

post #7 of 12
Thread Starter 

Thank All of You,  I am going to try your ideas and try to teach them that real food dosn't come out of a window.  Also, Its good to know I'm not alone in this.  I love this site.  MommaT

post #8 of 12

Part of a successful meal or event is knowing your audience. So yeah, a good starting point would be burgers and pizza. And there's a lot of interesting things you can do with them to help expand their horizons as well. 

 

Once they've had really good burgers and pizza, they'll start to open up to the idea that there is a range of quality and experience beyond what they knew.

post #9 of 12

Wow, James!

I am impressed, young man!

You stated your thought and opinion like a person much older than your years.

Your parents truly did something magical with you.

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post #10 of 12
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Wow, James!

I am impressed, young man!

You stated your thought and opinion like a person much older than your years.

Your parents truly did something magical with you.


I'm going to guess this was directed at me (I actually went through to try to make sure there wasn't another James

Thanks! Credit definitely has to go to my parents, they definitely brought me up right, guess that's what happens when you're the son of a teacher and raised in the ways of East Texas hospitality.

 

back to the original thread part of this actually is interesting because all my friends are headed back to college in the next few weeks and I decided I would host a little shindig at my new apartment, and said I would cook a meal for all my friends and it really is a trick to figure out what to cook, because I want to cook some quality food because that's what I'm used to and I actually feel disgusting after eating too much junk food, but like I said earlier my friends look at me like I have grown a second head when I eat a ton of fruits, so I'm polling them, it'll be interesting to see what happens.

post #11 of 12

Keep us updated one that survey, James.

I think that would be interesting.

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post #12 of 12

uh survey update: I said originally that I would like to cook some form of fish (because I was never allowed to make it in our house because the smell of fish made my mother dramatically sick) I had one or two people who seemed timid about fish but begrudgingly gave it, I had one friend quickly request salmon, another friend had her wisdom teeth out so would be grateful to eat anything solid, I had one friend request if I could make him a burger (I wasn't shocked by this at all I think I'm gonna try to make it fancy... or force him to eat salmon) one friend said he was ok with fish as long as I had something to go with it and I had one friend reply that salmon sounded good but I better cook it right, so kinda a vast array of answers
 

Now comes down to the meat of this conversation, how to prepare it in a way that they will enjoy it, everyone from the nervous ones who'd probably wish I'd make them a burger to the guy who told me I had to cook it right (who is a good cook in his own right), If I had a grill I would do that because that's pleasing to just about everyone in my opinion. I guess this is similar to the question raised by chefhow

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