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post #1 of 24
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We were invited to the home of a mutual friend.

They had just completed a total re-do of their kitchen,

The Missus is showing me around,

Beautiful granite counter tops with full backsplash up to the cabinets,

Huge Center Island done in old style butcher’s block (I wish I had)

SS prep sink with brushed SS facet, you know the really nice stuff on the TV commercial…all the bells and whistles …

Solid Maple cabinets all the way up to the vaulted ceiling

Drop pendant lights over the breakfast bar/counter with leather bar stools...

Just a wonderland as far as I was concerned!! 

Spacious, but not cold and uninviting…

Anyway, she serves us Costco-pre-made-dishes (still in the tin foil pans) for a sit down dinner in their newly remodeled formal dining room… WAIT! 

Not to sound like a kitchen snob,

but why would you have a kitchen to-die-for

(I was drooling) and not cook? 

DH noticed as well, and you know guys when you give them a beer… he asked the husband what’s up?  The Missus doesn't like to make mess, never did, she DOESN’T COOK, EVER!! 

Poor guy, they eat out or get microwave meals...

Mister k~girl has a new appreciation for his girl he said!!

Man, this gal's OCD would have been over the Moon at our house tonight while I shallow fried chicken cutlettes and the grease poppin' and splattering all over…

post #2 of 24

I'm willing to bet that most rich folks with state-of-the-art kitchens don't ever use them.  It's a status thing.  Technically there is nothing wrong with that but it is a little sad to see a 6-burner viking range in a kitchen that never gets used.  I get most jealous of people that have more than one oven though.

 

Even more disturbing is how many people don't actually cook.  I have so many friends with children that don't know how to boil water.  I always think to myself, what do they feed their kids???  A person can't live on sandwiches and take out every night can they?  But they do.  Many spend a fortune on nice restaurant meals but hey, that's their business I guess.

 

If it makes you feel any better I heard Wolfgang Puck in an interview one time say that his home kitchen is a small little room with barely any counter top.  Furthermore he said he doesn't need more space than that.

"You are what you eat, so don't be fast, cheap, easy, or fake."

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post #3 of 24

Kaneo,

 

Very interesting theme topic.

 

The art and preparation of food is as much a part of the Mediterranean as its wave beaten shores, green pastoral lands and its folklore.

 

The Jones competiiton for a better this or that, is a  Syndrome and lack of culinary culture.  

 

Marge.

post #4 of 24

I've seen this many times in the states, in particular, where people have space to make big kitchens.  I think it's the ultimate waste.  What i would do for even a couple of more square meters counter space. 

as they say in italian, "chi ha pane non ha i denti"  - those with bread have no teeth. 

"Siduri said, 'Gilgamesh, where are you roaming? You will never find the eternal life that you seek...Savour your food, make each of your days a delight, ... let music and dancing fill your house, love the child who holds you by the hand and give your wife pleasure in your embrace.'"
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"Siduri said, 'Gilgamesh, where are you roaming? You will never find the eternal life that you seek...Savour your food, make each of your days a delight, ... let music and dancing fill your house, love the child who holds you by the hand and give your wife pleasure in your embrace.'"
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post #5 of 24

Siduri, Buonasera,

 

Very well stated.

 

Ciao.

Marge.

post #6 of 24

We updated our kitchen a couple of years ago.  I removed the AGA that we had lovingly put in about 15 years ago, simply because I no longer do the bulk cooking that I used to when the family were younger and I wanted a more streamlined kitchen.  Luckily we managed to sell the AGA for almost as much as we paid for it when new (I'm a Scot, after all!)  I now have clean lined high-gloss units with stainless steel appliances and great taps in the double sinks which allow me to direct the jets of water and to change the flow easily.  I have two ovens (sorry, KK!!!) and my only complaint is trying to keep the stainless steel  hob (5 burner, one for a wok) and fronts of the ovens smear-free!  I've got quite a bit of worktop space, as well as a walk in pantry (actually the original pantry of this house).  But, it's still not big by US standards!

post #7 of 24
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Kaneo,

 

... The Jones competiiton for a better this or that, is a  Syndrome and lack of culinary culture.  

 

Marge.

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maybe I got lost somewhere

post #8 of 24

Kaneo,

 

To say this in a more simpler way;

 

Another example of the  Jones Syndrome is, a neighbor buys a Bmw, and another neighbor, their friend has a toyota; and the toyota owner goes and purchases a Bmw whether they can afford a Bmw or not to keep up with the Jones-es ...

 

Have lovely labor day.

Marge.

post #9 of 24
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Wow, Ishbel!  You had an AGA!!!  I’ve never even seen one, other than on television. 

That must have been a blast to cook on. 

And then you people with double ovens!! I WISH!!

I saw a range that had two ovens, a smaller one on top and then a standard size on the bottom, and dual-fuel (electric oven & gas burners).

I guess what I was think was: all of that and then to turn around and say I don’t want to get it messy?  Isn’t that part of cooking/baking?

post #10 of 24

my home in austria is my kitchen.   it is the biggest room, most light,  i see my herbs growing from the window,  it is where everyone sits when we have visitors.  i cook we eat we drink we play cards or dice we eat we drink laugh and everyone is in the kithcen until you need the WC.  water closet for all the northamerican people.  no flash no gliz just a working kitchen with a wood burning oven for the winter and lots of fun

post #11 of 24
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Right kostendorf?

When we moved here from Hawaii, what I wanted in our new home was what they call a ‘great room’.  The kitchen, dining and living room are all as one.  I could do without the rest of the house, well, the WC as you say and the bedroom with that huge king sized bed that would NEVER have fit in our tiny home back in Kaneohe.

post #12 of 24

I live in a city apartment with a galley-style kitchen that also includes my washer and dryer. One of the previous owners of my apartment did a very competent job of maximizing the amount of counter and cupboard space that could be wrung out of the room and most of my other city-dwelling friends envy the sheer linear footage of my countertop. My biggest challenge is the tiny stove. Oh--and the fact that I am on the 3rd floor and have no place to grill.

 

I also live in an extremely ethnically diverse area where you can find just about any foodstuff imaginable within a mile radius. There are also a number of excellent thrift stores overflowing with the cast-off cookware of my city brethren. Did I also mention the very nice kitchen supply store in the next block?  It makes for interesting and variable cooking but despite this being the most efficient kitchen I have ever had, my cupboards and drawers overflow and my countertops are lined with cannisters and appliances. My most over-stuffed cupboard is the one with spices and vinegars, followed by the one with bakeware. People get rid of the nicest things.

 

For all that--I do not possess a matching dish service and my silverware is a hodgepodge of mismatched forks, knives and spoons. My dining table only really only seats 4 comfortably.

post #13 of 24
We did a kitchen remodel about 7 yrs ago. I use the hell out of it

You can't lay on the beach and drink rum all day unless you start in the morning

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post #14 of 24

Similiar to Chicago Terry, when in the centre of the Madrid Capital, we reside in a rental Loft, and thus, the Loft style Kitchen, is totally renovated and modern to date, with Vitro Ceramic Stove Top and looks clever.

 

On the other hand, when in our recently purchased condo in Puglia, Italia, my husband and I had to have the apartment totally reformed and renovated, as we had purchased it in total ruin. The electrical system was totally overhaulled and updated for the office, and the computers, and  the restored wood flooring, and beams, terrace, and just every nook and cranny;  the kitch required  installed brand new appliances, refrig, sink, counters,  stove / oven and all that is needed for the two of us, plus the gals visiting at holidays with the children and their dads,  and of course, all in the 2 1/2  bathrms was totally remodelled as well ... Just had it finished a week ago. So, there is still alot to organize.

 

 

 

Have nice Labor Day Wkend.

Marge. 

post #15 of 24

I feel that great kitchens not being used is a shame. I Currently live in an apartment in a small college town, and would kill for more than 2 square feet of counter space, my roommate laughs as I put ingredients and bowls and other things on the bar, we have our microwave in a completely separate room to conserve space. My girlfriend came to visit me this weekend, I had to laugh as one of the first things she did was start cleaning my kitchen exclaiming "why is there flour on your bar???"(because I made pizza dough and I needed to put flour somewhere" "What's this red stuff on the counter" (homemade pizza sauce or Jambalaya not sure) "why is there so much grease on your stove top??? (Because I love bacon and sausage) Needless to say when you have 2 college guys with a small kitchen and one loves to cook and the other loves to help, you get a well loved very messy kitchen.... and I wouldn't have it any other way.

 

I share your pain Terry, no so much because of storing a grill or anything, but my city has a local ordinance that state you must be 50 feet away from a building to operate a grill... I have been told the very middle of the courtyard at my complex is 50 feet away. I sure hope so because its football season!

 

I have said to myself many times after moving in this house, if I'm successful one day, and get to make my own house.... there will be a nice kitchen, who cares about the rest of the house... there will be a nice kitchen (gives me something to work towards in school haha)

 

But I agree it pains me to see nice kitchens where the owner barely knows how to make a microwave dinner.

post #16 of 24
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I live in a city apartment

...

 

I also live in an extremely ethnically diverse area where you can find just about any foodstuff imaginable within a mile radius. There are also a number of excellent thrift stores ...

People get rid of the nicest things.

 

For all that--I do not possess a matching dish service and my silverware is a hodgepodge of mismatched forks, knives and spoons. My dining table only really only seats 4 comfortably.

::sigh::

how I long to live in the 'city' again...that sounds like our first apartment, which I wish we still had...tiny as it was ...

::sigh::

post #17 of 24

When we moved into our apartment (which, we were extremely lucky, our inlaws bought us - college is practically free here, so parents who could afford it in those days, would buy their kids an apartment) we chose it for the terrace and the kitchen which was bigger than most italian kitchens (which are pretty small).  (Here, people eat in the dining room, or have a dining table in the living room, but rarely do they have an eat-in, hang-out kitchen).  But the kitchen was near one bedroom, then came the living room and then a hall and at the other end of the apartment was another, very large for city standards, bedroom.  And our thought was, let's make the kitchen a bedroom and the other bedroom the kitchen.  It's long enough to divide into two square-ish areas (5 meters X 3 meters) and it's off the terrace, and the bedrooms are too far to hear kids crying in the night.  We were able to connect the drain to the drain of the downstairs neighbors who had their bathroom under us, and allowed us to break their ceiling and wall because we offered to fix the leak they just happened to have (talk about luck). 

 

So i have no other dining table but in the kitchen (well, also on the terrace), and the eating area is conceptually separate from the cooking area but it's all open in one room.  The counter starts at the fridges (two small ones) which stick into the dining area, goes along one wall, turns under the window (where i have the sink, probably the only under-the-window sink in italy where they usually shove it in a corner) with counter space on either side, then turns another corner and there's the stove, and turns another corner and there's a wide continuation of the counter that juts into the room like a peninsula and divides the cooking area from the eating area.  Sounds like a lot, but there's a bread box, a mixer, a blender, a bunch of large jars of flours and beans and stuff, a soda stream bubbly wter maker, an onion basket, a microwave, a coffeemaker, a bunch of oil, vinegar and condiment bottles and two or three large fruit bowls to clutter up the working space.  so there is never enough counter space. 

 

IN the eating area i have a round table with a central pillar which seats 6 or even 8, and has a leaf to open and sit ten in a pinch.  The walls and ceiling are dark mauve on the upper part and a base with moulding to look like wood painted eggplant, and the cabinets are painted darkish green and sage green.  A very tall window and a big door to the terrace bring in plenty of light and the dark color makes it feel cosier.  Brown tiles on the floor.  All somewhat shabby but all very comfortable and warm. 

 

I hate to be alone in the kitchen while the family or guests are in another room.  I like to chat while i work and i like to show off. So there are no formal dining room meals here.   We spend a lot of time in the kitchen.  It's always a mess, with food flying all over, but nobody has ever refused to eat there!  It's well-worn and well-lived in and cooked in.  And we're very lucky to have a terrace off the kitchen so in the long summer we eat outside every night and stay in the cooler air till late.  And we rigidly proclaimed, no tv in the kitchen. 

"Siduri said, 'Gilgamesh, where are you roaming? You will never find the eternal life that you seek...Savour your food, make each of your days a delight, ... let music and dancing fill your house, love the child who holds you by the hand and give your wife pleasure in your embrace.'"
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"Siduri said, 'Gilgamesh, where are you roaming? You will never find the eternal life that you seek...Savour your food, make each of your days a delight, ... let music and dancing fill your house, love the child who holds you by the hand and give your wife pleasure in your embrace.'"
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post #18 of 24

Our kitchen is the main room in our house when friends and kids come over.  The sink is in the island and I have a South Bend range - six buners, two ovens, griddle and salamander.  We have a party for our birthdays every winter and there are 20+ people packed in the kitchen areas eating, drinking and having a wonderful time.  One of these days I need to trim out the island . . . it's only been15 yrs.  We sometimes retire to the living room as it has a fireplace, but for the most part it's the kitchen.

post #19 of 24
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Siduri, so true!  I like to be able to interact with the house while I’m in the kitchen.  We have stools at the counter that juts out in to the ‘great room’ so that people can sit and chat, eat, whatever.  And then the second in line is the dining table, DH calls ours the kitchen table; one of the reasons why I wanted everything together, as one big room really.

This makes me wonder, is the kitchen the hub

in homes all around the world? 

post #20 of 24

Yes, K-Girl. I'm very lucky to live where I do, even though a big kitchen and dining room will never be mine and the oven is miniscule. I would wither outside of a big city. I picked this neighborhood largely because of the food! And all the cupboards in my kitchen clinched the deal on this apartment when I was buying.

post #21 of 24
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James (StatsCook), you got me thinking of when I was going to college. I had a studio apartment that I shared with a girlfriend, man!  We walked in the front door and BAM that's the kitchen it was so smal,l really there was no counter, just the sink the range right next to it and the 'fridge directly across. You couldn't open the front door if the 'fridge door or oven door were open!

 I had a folding card table and chairs setup next to the 'fridge and that was for eating/prepping/unloading groceries/everything... and then there was the bed and TV!

I set up a make-shift bedroom on the balcony that had a aluminum pull down to enclose it, handy!

post #22 of 24
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James (StatsCook), you got me thinking of when I was going to college. I had a studio apartment that I shared with a girlfriend, man!  We walked in the front door and BAM that's the kitchen it was so smal,l really there was no counter, just the sink the range right next to it and the 'fridge directly across. You couldn't open the front door if the 'fridge door or oven door were open!

 I had a folding card table and chairs setup next to the 'fridge and that was for eating/prepping/unloading groceries/everything... and then there was the bed and TV!

I set up a make-shift bedroom on the balcony that had a aluminum pull down to enclose it, handy!

 

I remember my first apartment in nyc was just a room with a bathroom and a closet.  No kitchen!  I had to buy one of those small square fridges and I put a hot burner on top of it.  Plus a small table with a microwave and spice rack  next to my bed and that was it.  No kitchen sink, everything had to be washed in the bathroom.  But you'd be surprised at how much cooking went on in that space. 

"You are what you eat, so don't be fast, cheap, easy, or fake."

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post #23 of 24
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...  But you'd be surprised at how much cooking went on in that space. 

 

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post #24 of 24

Ah, to have lived in the 60s.  I got my first apartment when i got my first job, minimum wage.  It was in a sketchy area of Boston, but it was safe because there was a fire station, police station and a couple of major hospitals right there, and it was on a very busy street.  A 3-story wood building, i had the whole floor - 3 big rooms and a small one, and a nice old fashioned big kitchen.  Bay window on the front.  The stove was huge and had the heating element in it, on top of which was a large very heavy metal plate (almost an inch thick) where in the winter i'd toast bread - just throw it on top.  Nice big sink, big round table, cabinets and counter space.

I earned 90 dollars a week, and the apt cost me 90 dollars a month.  IN THOSE DAYS A PERSON WORKING WITH MINIMUM WAGE COULD SUPPORT A FAMILY! Imagine how our salaries have gone down.  Now two or three jobs won't support a family.  I had a car and went out to eat all the time, movies etc, bought clothes, nice cooking equipment and even saved a little.  If i had been more frugal i could certainly have supported a family but i was single so i didn;t have to. 

Now that apartment is extremely expensive, and probably shared by ten students or a well to do family. 

"Siduri said, 'Gilgamesh, where are you roaming? You will never find the eternal life that you seek...Savour your food, make each of your days a delight, ... let music and dancing fill your house, love the child who holds you by the hand and give your wife pleasure in your embrace.'"
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