Best software for calculating food cost? - Page 2
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I am blown away by the lack of food costing prowess I am seeing in these threads. I would like to posit a thought for you to consider.
That 15 lb. strip... requires trim. The yield of an average whole striploin is somewhere south of 80% (if you trim it properly and back out your vein steaks). Now your cost for 15 lbs. of steak just got turned into 13 lbs. of usable product. Now you go from $.94 an ounce to $1.39 or from $11.28 per 12 oz. steak to $16.64 per steak.
Assuming the rest of your pricing is all the same (even though your yields on onion and lack of yield on mushrooms is modest at best) your price per plate is now $17.69 with a food cost of 66% vs. 45%. That 21% margin swing on profit is why people need a food cost program. Just the training alone you get from buying a food cost program is worth its weight in gold... so silly little errors like this are not missed.
BTW, not accounting for this yield would have resulted in an under purchase of product which would have left the consumer agitated or the chef misrepresenting the portion amounts on the menu. A food costing tool is just as useful for forecasting your purchases as it is for calculating your cost. The only profit comes from the bottomline after calculating what you bought and what you earned. How you buy the product is critical. Leaving the customer short on expectation could result in not being called back. Buying too much product means you are going to be eating well but the perfect balance means everyone is happy,because the math is right and that means money in the bank account!
I am blown away...
That 15 lb. strip... requires trim. The yield of an average whole striploin is somewhere south of 80% (if you trim it properly and back out your vein steaks). Now your cost for 15 lbs. of steak just got turned into 13 lbs. of usable product.
... so silly little errors like this are not missed.
15 x .8 (80%) = 13?
I got 12, mahbe my software broke.
I know its been a while but wanted to share that I found a great food cost software called QSROnline. If you are looking for similar software I would highly recommend checking it out at www.qsronline.com - you can even get a free trial to try it out!
Have a great day! :)
O.k., look, you're driving down a highway and every car you see has tire chains on, is farting along at 40 mph, and has at least 20 car lengths between each car. Now, you'd figure it would be prudent to do the same, right?
In terms of food costing, inventory, and scaling out recipies, the imperial weight system is probably the worst, most frustrating and mistake prone systems to use. Why?
Base units are 16's, Sixteen oz to the lb. After 1 oz things really get weird, because then you go to fractions, and 'puter programs will use decimal fractions. Bad. We're Chefs here, decimal fractions are O.K. for machinists and rockets scientists. An oz is 28 grams, which is alot if you're dealing with spices, booze, or even tenderloin. But even that oz or fraction thereof was dirt cheap salt, a mistake in reading decimal fractions could cause a lot of mistakes in a batch of whatever the cook/baker was scaling out.
Most important is money. Money is in base units of 10's, not 16's, right?
Look, I've been cooking for 35 yrs now starting back in the day when the rest of the English speaking world used "imperial gallons" (160 fl oz) and the 'mericans used "U.S. gallons" (128 fl. oz). The biggest "A-ha" moment for me was working for a Chicago-ean in Singapore who refused to have any imperial measurements in his kitchens--4 of them to be precise. This guy had every recipie scaled out to the last gram, and had food costs that any Chef would dream of
My "program" is a simple spreadsheet that I update anytime I get a price change. First column is the weight of the item--say a 25 kg sack of flour, next column is price, then date, last column is price per kg. This is the most important one. Everything is converted into $/ kg, flour, eggs, butter, meat, booze, oil, milk, everything. Doesn't matter if the packing is in imperial or metric, it's the price per kg that I want and need.
Thus, my recipies call for 200 grams of chicken, 24 grams of butter, 10 grams oil, 30 grams wine, etc Every items is multiplied by the $/kg amount of the ingredient. This also makes it very easy doing inventory calucations
I have used many systems over the years including
Star Chef + Fourth Hospitality
plus many others over my 30 years in the industry
However the best I have seen on the market that is built by chefs for chefs and is by far the easiest system to operate, which also does everything the above systems and more is Kitchen CUT.
It has International consultancy advice and features and every form, tool, calculator you could wish for in the management part of the site.
The system is cloud based and is superb either for businesses or chefs to take with them and develop and fully costed portfolio of recipes and menus accessible anywhere in the World.
Many of the top chefs in the industry have endorsed this website and it is constantly developing and improving all the time. unlike other systems on the market.
The other superb thing about this system it is a fraction of the cost.
You might want to disclose that you're obviously being paid to promote this program since your face is plastered all over it's website. Just saying... I doubt your opinion here is unbiased.
Hmmmmm... "cloud based" calculating software that is significantly cheaper.... Which would also mean that the Website or host would have access to the Chef's information....
Information like how much the Chef pays per unit, and more importantly the volume the Chef purchases of certain items.
Information that any broadliner sales wreck--uh, 'scuse me--, sales rep., would pay for...
Which would explain the "significantly cheaper" cost of said service.....
A-yup, a $2 calculator is a pretty good....
I used to do this for the longest time :) but I have seen some benefit in using different programs for better long-term organizing.
I've tried using http://costbrain.com which seems to be another alternative to kitchencut. Kitchencut also looks interesting, I'm scheduling a demo, and also scheduled a demo for costbrain. Using just a calculator takes a ton of time. Using software even for a small fee seems worth it if it helps track spending and food margins.
CostBrain looks nice and simple, I might check that out. I think ive used the KitchenKut a while ago and didn't really like it.