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We've just let management know that this holiday season will be our last with the current restaurant we're at. My chef is tired of dealing with their bullwhip and looking to hang up his tongs, move somewhere warm, and and open a little cafe

We told them we'll work this holiday season to mid–end January, train a new team, and move on

My question: when applying at other places around that time, how would I go about negotiating my pay? Since I'm on salary now, I would either need to match it or go higher.... This will be my first time applying somewhere else after being on salary
post #2 of 6

I don't have an absolute answer for you. I have found it beneficial to understand what kind of place you are negotiating with. Most places have a budgeted amount they can/will pay for the position.  Union shops pay union rates- many larger corporations follow union pay just to keep the unions out.  A small mom and pop with limited seating can not afford the same salary for a chef or cook as a big hotel. So in many cases, you will be negotiating within a very limited range. And then there are other considerations such as benefits, time off, expected hours, working conditions. Lower paycheck with full benefits and great hours in a clean, sun lit professional kitchen on one side or great pay with no benefits and horrible hours in a dingy, broken down closet.

post #3 of 6

Good luck keeping your job after you give notice to follow the chef, and even better luck trying to find a job in January.

post #4 of 6

Hang on a sec........

 

My understanding is that Unions do not pay union rates.  Say the salary posted of a union job is $20.00/hr (salary would mean mngmt, right?)  Your first 3 mths would be 60-75 % of the $20.00, say $15.00/hr  Assuming you 'qualified" after the first 3 mths,meaning that you worked 40 hrs/wk and 3 mths straight at 40 hrs week, you would move up to the next pay scale.  Of course, during the entire time your paycheck would be garnisheed union dues, yet you are NOT eligeable for any union benifits.  Then again, my understanding of most unions here is that you can appeal directly to mangmt and aks them to waive the whole process and pay what you ask them to--whatever you negotiate with them.  So much for Union representation, eh?

 

Now, my experiences have only been with the big chains in Vancouver, hopefully unions in other places are a little more.

 

Getting back to negoating: ,Take  your current salary, add 10% and negoatiate with that.  All kinds of confusing add-ons like benefits, longer/shorter work hours, need to be compared as well. 

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post #5 of 6
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Hang on a sec........

My understanding is that Unions do not pay union rates.  Say the salary posted of a union job is $20.00/hr (salary would mean mngmt, right?)  Your first 3 mths would be 60-75 % of the $20.00, say $15.00/hr  Assuming you 'qualified" after the first 3 mths,meaning that you worked 40 hrs/wk and 3 mths straight at 40 hrs week, you would move up to the next pay scale.  Of course, during the entire time your paycheck would be garnisheed union dues, yet you are NOT eligeable for any union benifits.  Then again, my understanding of most unions here is that you can appeal directly to mangmt and aks them to waive the whole process and pay what you ask them to--whatever you negotiate with them.  So much for Union representation, eh?

Now, my experiences have only been with the big chains in Vancouver, hopefully unions in other places are a little more.

Getting back to negoating: ,Take  your current salary, add 10% and negoatiate with that.  All kinds of confusing add-ons like benefits, longer/shorter work hours, need to be compared as well. 

No idea what that means.... This is Utah, it's a right to work state. We're not unionized
post #6 of 6

Then you take your right hand and pat your left shoulder.  Believe me, you don't want to work in a Union shop.
 

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