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After using the stones for a while I would say for any future readers of this thread avoid the Naniwa Combination Stone 1000 / 3000 , the stone is too hard and doest cut well, it barely creates any mud, seems to be a bad quality.

 

I'm quite happy with the King 1000/6000 (I got the small size 150 x 50 x 25 mm) but I did try another alternative of a bigger size which is the Suehiro new cerax 1000 / 3000  (#3000 - 186mm x 63mm x 13mm, #1000 - 186mm x 63mm x 15mm) , it has a silky quality but cuts fast and is not as soft as the king, I think it a great value and I prefer it over the king stone.

 

Now I'm thinking of a coarse stone and I'm between two options,

 

The price is almost identical but the 320 offers more stone for the money (205 x 73 x 23mm for the #320 vs 183mm x 63mm x 20mm for the #400), on the other hand the #400 has a nice base.

Anyway does anyone have experience with any of there of would recommend one or the other?

Also do you consider the #320 grit too coarse compared to the 400 of they are similar? (they will be followed by a #1000 stone).

This coarse stone will be used with my older non Japanese knives (even pocket knives) that need some thinning and re-profiling since my new Japanese knives are is quite perfect condition and will be a few years probably before I need any coarse stone work on them (if any).

 

Also I'm thinking of buying a Suehiro 'Rika' #5000 finishing stone (206 x 73 x 23mm).

Currently I use the 6000 king so do you consider the Rika a better stone or the only benefit for me would be the bigger size of the stone?

 

Alex

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The King 6000 and Suehiro Rika have a lot of similarities and a few differences.  The Rika is a little more versatile in that it will act as a relatively fast 3K stone, until the mud is broken down and then will act like a 5K.  The Rika produces a great deal more mud, wears quicker than the King, needs a bit more flattening, and has even more and better feedback. 

 

The King is straightforward:  It's a darn good, mud-binder 6K.  

 

If you really want to improve performance, you'll want to investigate stones with resin or magnesia binders.  But they do cost more, sometimes considerably more.  

 

I don't know the coarse Suehiros at all. 

 

Bottom line:  I prefer the Rika, but... Unless you want that 3K/5K thing the Rika does, switching from it to the 6K King surface or vice versa is more of a lateral move than an actual step up.  However moving from a 150mm to a 210mm stone length is a BIG improvement.  So, that's something you might want to think about. 

 

BDL

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Originally Posted by boar_d_laze View Post

The King 6000 and Suehiro Rika have a lot of similarities and a few differences.  The Rika is a little more versatile in that it will act as a relatively fast 3K stone, until the mud is broken down and then will act like a 5K.  The Rika produces a great deal more mud, wears quicker than the King, needs a bit more flattening, and has even more and better feedback. 

 

The King is straightforward:  It's a darn good, mud-binder 6K.

 

I'm not sure I would like a stone that is even softer than the king and I'm more interested in the "5k operation mode" of the stone since I now have the new cerax 3000 to use between the 1000 and the finishing stone.

Maybe I should just stick for a while to the king 6000 and just buy the coarse stone for now.

 

Any suggestion in general between the 320 grit and 400 grit stones, do you think that a 320 grit is too coarse or it also depends on the brand of the stone?

 

Alex

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