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The recipe for PB in my Time-Life book on French Provincal Cooking specifies that when rolling out the dough for PB, it should be 1/8 inch thick.  And when pricked with a fork, the tines do NOT penetrate all of the way through.

 

I've been pricking my dough all of the way through and it's been rolled out thicker.  Hmmm, perhaps that's why it cook up with leakage.

 

What happens with a PB rolled thicker than what it's supposed to be??

 

FWIW checkout this thread concerning quiche crust.

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post #2 of 7

Koko, that recipe is the best ever - that strawberry tart is beyond beautiful. 

 

I went nuts with the recipe saying don;t prick all the way through.  It doesn't work, the bubbles come from between the pan and the crust, not within the crust. So i prick through, for the tart, because the bavarian cream filling will prevent anything from dripping through.  But if i use it for quiche, the holes through the crust often do leak the filling. 

 

The link to the other thread was so long i didn't have time to read it through, so i don';t know if this has already been said, but here;s what i do. 

 

To blind bake, i put parchment paper in the crust, crumpling it up near the edges.  Then i take a square of foil, and put that on top and crunkle that up around the edges so i can feel that it puts some pressure against the sides.  My main problem is not the bubbles, which i can deal with later, but that sometimes the sides slide down.  (To avoid that, i also make my top decorative edge go very slightly over the edge of the quiche pan so they hold themselves up.  Nothing like trying to fill a quiche crust that has one side that's slid halfway down the side of the pan. 

 

If i put weights in, they always seem to slide out onto the crust when i try to lift them out.  I never got the hang of it.   So to avoid the bubbles, halfway through, when the crust is set but still flexible, say after ten minutes, i take the foil and paper out and press down where there are bubbles.  If they don't collapse, i poke them with a fork, right through to the pan, flatten, and then add a thin patch made of a  tiny amount of dough.  At that point it usually doesn't bubble up any more.  If the dough is only partly baked like for a quiche, i just take it out.  The raw dough patch, being very thin, will cook with the quiche.  If it has to be baked blind i just put it back in the oven. 

 

Hope this helps

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I've heard of some people drilling several holes thru the bottom of the tarte pan to relieve the bubbles and to facilitate 'doneness'.


Edited by kokopuffs - 3/26/13 at 1:35pm

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post #4 of 7

Makes sense.  I can't see why it wouldn't work.  Though my quiche pans are made of tinned metal and i think maybe drilling them would make them rust.  I guess you could get the loose bottoms made of aluminum and they would be easy to drill. 

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Some three decades ago when I was last into PB and when there was no internet therefore not a lot of experienced information available, that's exactly what I did with my tin plated tarte pan.  And it rusted neat the holes only.

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post #6 of 7

I once had an ancient metal pie pan with an insert that had holes punched in the bottom of it. They were die cut, not homemade and I'm sure it was sold as a set. Got it at a thrift store and never used it. I think it's long gone.

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I once had an ancient metal pie pan with an insert that had holes punched in the bottom of it. They were die cut, not homemade and I'm sure it was sold as a set. Got it at a thrift store and never used it. I think it's long gone.


Wow, you made me remember the pie pans that we used to get from a pie company - what was it - ah yes, Table Talk Pies - you'[d buy the pie in a box with cellophane window on top, and the pie pans had a 5 cent deposit.  We had a collection of them and yes, they had holes in them! 

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