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gungasims buttered bread question

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a while back i had some friends over, when i served the main course(pic) they were outraged that i chose to have buttered bread with my seafood.. am i the crazy one?

 

post #2 of 17

Tell them to pound sand, eat what you like on your bread.

post #3 of 17

You could have used reel butter though......

 

post #4 of 17

I agree on the real butter.  But as for the dish you show,  i'm a great fan of butter on my bread, but not when the dish has tomato sauce that asks to be sopped up with the bread.  Not for tradition, or for authenticity or snobbery, but simply because i'd like like one condiment at a time. 

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post #5 of 17

Butter with a tomato based sauce?   Not for me.

post #6 of 17

I probably would have served the bread plain, let the tomato sauce do the work.

 

And I would NEVER mount a tomato based sauce with a knob of butter before serving ;-)

 

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post #7 of 17
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Originally Posted by gungaSim View Post

a while back i had some friends over, when i served the main course(pic) they were outraged that i chose to have buttered bread with my seafood.. am i the crazy one?

 

You're mistaken.  They were outraged that you chose a butter substitute on bread.

 

For me, more butter more better.

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post #8 of 17

The container says "Whipped Light Butter" .. that's not margarine or a substitute correct?

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Originally Posted by eastshores View Post

The container says "Whipped Light Butter" .. that's not margarine or a substitute correct?
Its still land o lakes.
post #10 of 17

Whipped Light butter - usually Light means it's got some fat substitutes in there - unless it's just air.  I'm not familiar with the product though.  I remember whipped butter in the states, and it didn't say "light" but maybe they add "light" to everything.  Light butter is usually with some fat substitute.  But in my day you couldn;t say "butter" anywhere on the package if it wasn't 100% butter, even to say "this is not butter" - but i know now these controls, at the behest of the big companies, have gone down the drain.   

 

What's wrong with butter in tomato sauces Teamfat?   Many are actually based on butter.  Not a rule or a law with me, but if i do a sauce based on onions, i fry them slowly in butter and oil, and add butter at the end.  If i do it based on garlic, like a marinara type sauce,  i don't tend to use butter because the taste is sharper. the consistency is less thick and it doesn't call for butter, to my mind - parsley would be more what i would finish it with .  Usually i'd cook shellfish with a sharper tomato sauce, not mantecato at the end, that is, without the creaminess butter would add.  Though there's a restaurant we've gone to many times that makes tomato based seafood sauces with cream added and they're quite good.  No laws, no rules, just what tastes good to me.  But why the never?  How can cooking have these "nevers" in them? at least when we're talking about ingredients that aren't pumped up chemically

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post #11 of 17

Here are the ingredients for Land o Lakes light whipped "butter"

 

Ingredients: Butter (Cream, Salt), Water*, Food Starch-Modified*, Contains Less Than 2% of Tapioca Maltodextrin*, Salt, Vegetable Mono And Diglycerides*, Lactic Acid*, Potassium Sorbate* and Sodium Benzoate* (preservatives), PGPR* (emulsifier), Xanthan Gum*, Natural Flavor* Vitamin A Palmitate*, Beta Carotene* (color).
*Ingredients not found in regular butter.

 

The ingredients in my Kerrygold butter are:

Ingredients: Cultured pasteurized cream

 

I don't mean to digress or to point to anyone and say hey look you're bad for eating this!  Everyone makes their own choices and need not be villainized for them.  What bothers me is the sheer magnitude of processed food substances that are available to people that are meant to fool them into thinking it's healthy.  Blah blah I'll take it to another thread.

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post #12 of 17

I have a container of "whipped butter" that I just checked and the ingredients listed were pasteurized cream and "natural flavor". From a little research on what natural flavoring is I found:

 

"The term natural flavor or natural flavoring means the essential oil, oleoresin, essence or extractive, protein hydrolysate, distillate, or any product of roasting, heating or enzymolysis, which contains the flavoring constituents derived from a spice, fruit or fruit juice, vegetable or vegetable juice, edible yeast, herb, bark, bud, root, leaf or similar plant material, meat, seafood, poultry, eggs, dairy products, or fermentation products thereof, whose significant function in food is flavoring rather than nutritional."

 

So most likely it is just a stand-in for the cultured component of butter that is for flavoring as opposed to nutritional value. Seems silly that land o lakes would use so many emulsifiers and preservatives. I suspect some of that is to make it more spreadable at cold temperature. My whipped butter is not very easily spread without warming it some.

post #13 of 17

Why the lemon wedge?

post #14 of 17
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Originally Posted by eastshores View Post

I have a container of "whipped butter" that I just checked and the ingredients listed were pasteurized cream and "natural flavor". From a little research on what natural flavoring is I found:

 

"The term natural flavor or natural flavoring means the essential oil, oleoresin, essence or extractive, protein hydrolysate, distillate, or any product of roasting, heating or enzymolysis, which contains the flavoring constituents derived from a spice, fruit or fruit juice, vegetable or vegetable juice, edible yeast, herb, bark, bud, root, leaf or similar plant material, meat, seafood, poultry, eggs, dairy products, or fermentation products thereof, whose significant function in food is flavoring rather than nutritional."

 

So most likely it is just a stand-in for the cultured component of butter that is for flavoring as opposed to nutritional value. Seems silly that land o lakes would use so many emulsifiers and preservatives. I suspect some of that is to make it more spreadable at cold temperature. My whipped butter is not very easily spread without warming it some.


The package shown is not whipped butter but "whipped LIGHT butter" - therefore not butter at all.  In any case, what kind of crappy cream requires flavoring, even if natural?

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post #15 of 17

Sim, butter and tomato sauce in one sitting is a bit much.  But the one thing I appreciate about your approach is the fact that you go against the grain with such confidence.  Tell your guests the next time they want to complain, THEY CAN purchase and cook the mussels.

 

Man, that steams my turnips.

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Originally Posted by TheSoupNazi View Post

Sim, butter and tomato sauce in one sitting is a bit much.  But the one thing I appreciate about your approach is the fact that you go against the grain with such confidence.  Tell your guests the next time they want to complain, THEY CAN purchase and cook the mussels.

 

Man, that steams my turnips.

My beef stew last weekend had both tomatoes and turnips in it- never combined those two before- quite tasty.

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Originally Posted by dutch oven View Post

My beef stew last weekend had both tomatoes and turnips in it- never combined those two before- quite tasty.

 

 

Very interesting, Dutch.  Much like Mr. Gungs, you are not afraid to experiment.  I like that.

 

I'll pass along a few NH recipes for you to try.

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