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Help choosing a waterstone set

post #1 of 10
Thread Starter 
Hello guys!
I am currently using an edgepro to keep my knives "spliting hair" sharp, mostly because I was afraind of screwing my knifes with a bad free hand skill.
However, I have been studing a lot since and I am now willing to step forward. I will start on cheap knives, as everyone should.

So, I need your help on recommending a 4 or 3 stone set on a $300 budget.
One important comment is that I am finishing on balsa with Cr oxide and bare lather strop. I am sharpness addicted an go through a 10k on the edgepro.
My knifes are a 52100 ultimatum, a 270mm kono hd guyto, a 300 kono Hh suji and a tojiro Dp 120 utility.

Thanks in advance!
post #2 of 10

Japanese Knife Imports has the best waterstones and water stone selection I've tried.  They aren't the cheapest, but you can definitely stay in budget for three, maybe even four.  They are also very responsive, though more so by telephone than email.

post #3 of 10

i'm actually super behind on e-mails... trying to catch up today... but phone always works.

post #4 of 10
Thread Starter 

Tanks guys, but which stones do you recommend? not too hard, not too soft.


post #5 of 10
You may consider a two stones solution: e.g. Chosera 800 and 2k or 3k.
Relatively hard with a great response.
post #6 of 10
Thread Starter 

Tanks Benuser.

Wouldn't it be helpful to have something a litle under the 800?

I was actualy thinking about something such as a 400, 2k and 5k.


Best regards,


post #7 of 10


I was actualy thinking about something such as a 400, 2k and 5k.

Why would you want to go as low as 400? It would grind too much metal from your nice knives.
I believe that unless you wanted to thin your knives or make some repairs, you don't need such a low grids.

On your place I would call Jon and spend money on Gesshin stones.
post #8 of 10
With the Choseras, the grit numbers are to be taken with a grain of salt. With the Shaptons, the real grit is a tad lower, with the Choseras a bit higher.
I like the Chosera 800 a lot for its versatility. I use it for thinning as well, while the end result is equivalent to a JIS1200. With a lot of stainless you may use it as a one and only.
A lower grit can be useful if you have some projects waiting. Normally I would use sandpaper in the few occasions I need a coarser grit. That being said, I do love my Chosera 400, but could live without.
The step from 400 to 2000 is possible. I've tried it with very different steel types, basic carbons, AS, moly, VG-10. I don't know why, but with the 800 in between I get a much stronger edge.
In general I tend to limit the number of stones in the progression, but never skip the 800.
But these are very personal impressions, probably related to technical deficiencies at my side. Not to be taken too seriously.
post #9 of 10

You might want to reconsider the Chosera 400, 1k, 5k progression, don't forget the nagura you get are a 600 grit stone as well.  I like the speed of the 400, it saves me time, the 1k does a good job of cleaning up the 400 saves me time. The 5k does a decent job of finishing a good working edge.  Then strop as desired on balsa with crox :)

post #10 of 10

A great set-up that's budget friendly as well....


500ish grit (Beston, chosera)

1-2k (Naniwa SS, green brick, Chosera, Bester)

4-6K (Sue Hiro, Naniwa SS, Chosera, etc.)


My vote and what I tell my cooks to get is 500, green brick, sue hiro.....great set-up, no frills, does the job...get a stone holder and cheap diamond plate for flattening...and you're in under $300.  You already have a strop...


once you're dialed in with can add specialty stones like a 10k, etc.

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