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I have only heard of this. I was told that meat can be cooked by imersion in wine or some sort of mildly acidic substance for a time. Has anyone heard of this? Is it safe?
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Not cooked but proteins denatured, much like ceviche. (the old dissolve a steak in a pitcher of Coke trick eh?) Hence the existence of ceviche, yes it is safe (sans chicken, and all the other usual PHF suspects). But why? Some places you just don't go...

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chicken, and all the other usual PHF suspects

Chicken or not, the safety depends on the source of the proteins. Some people eat raw chicken (I have some friends who were part of the "raw" movement for a while and ate everything raw - included chicken, they just sourced excellent quality chicken, not your mass produced chicken), and AFAIK you can find chicken sushi in Japan. 

 

 

 

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Raw chicken really? That just sounds like your asking for trouble. Vegetables make sense to me but eating any kind of meat raw is risky. I do enjoy carrpaccio and tar tar on occasion but it is still always a risk.

 

GBhunter typically you see this type of cooking done with Ceviche. There is a great article on how it works here:

 

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As a kid I used to eat raw bacon, it drove my father crazy as he has to have everything cooked to the point it all tastes the same.

I asked this since I used stewing beef in beef Stroganoff and seeing that these cuts are rather tough I soaked them in wine a few hours, they became much softer. But i heard of people just eating them after a 24 hour marinade in wine.
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The only meat that's unsafe to eat raw is the meat coming from our industrial mass production food system. If you source quality meat that's been handled properly there's no more reason to get sick from raw chicken than there is to get sick from eating sushi. There's always a risk, yes, just like there's a risk from getting sick from eating bread or vegetables - the risk is rather low. 

 

But when you wash 1,000 chicken in the same water bath to save time and money and to sell your chicken cheaper, you increase the risk of food poisoning. 

 

As a kid I would eat raw beef, raw bacon... we'd also go to the farm, buy some fresh eggs and go home, pierce a hole at one end of the egg, another hole at the other end and swallow the whole raw egg. That was considered a "healthy" thing to do for kids. Funny how the feeling of what's "healthy" or "dangerous" changes depending on the period and the geographic places. 

 

After all, potatoes can be poisonous. Didn't that guy from Into the Wild die from eating wild potatoes? I'd say if you had to survive in the wild, chances are you'd die from eating poisonous berries or plants, not from eating the raw meat off of an animal you just killed. 


Edited by French Fries - 10/18/13 at 12:55pm
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I have seen Thomas Keller do a Chicken Carpaccio, but you have to know your chicken supplier and the type of chicken, how it was raised, where it was raised and a lot of other things, i would not do it here in the states unless you know your chicken, which i don't trust a lot of chicken here.. Seafood would be your best bet for that imo..
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As a kid I would eat raw beef, raw bacon... we'd also go to the farm, buy some fresh eggs and go home, pierce a hole at one end of the egg, another hole at the other end and swallow the whole raw egg. That was considered a "healthy" thing to do for kids.

 

Hmm... I still do that. Used to as a kid , too, sure. I wouldn't try that with any supermarket eggs, but those eggs come from my neighbour. They are pastured and get the greens I would throw away from my kitchen.  So far I survived...

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