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We're all thinking about it, Turkey Day is next week.  Menus, recipes, new ideas, questions, vent about it here.

 

I have never cooked Thanksgiving dinner but I have contributed several dishes.  I've made all except the turkey.  This year I plan to cook Thanksgiving style dinner for Christmas so I'll be paying close attention to what everyone does this Thanksgiving.  I plan to do a dry brine for the turkey and cook it spatchcocked or in parts.  I just need my oven for the rest of the time and it seems silly to cook it whole when you can cook it in less than half the time.

 

For me, Thanksgiving christmas dinner will include:

 

- corn pudding

- spicy sweet potato mash

- spiced orange cranberry sauce

- smoked ham

- apple sausage sage stuffing

- chestnut/chicken liver/rice stuffing

- gravy

- shaved fennel, pecan, pomegranate salad with citrus dressing

- brussel sprouts

- pumpkin pie with fresh whipped cream

- warm apple pie a la mode

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post #2 of 16
Thanksgiving ,Hanukkah, Thanksgivukkah, however you celebrate the day, enjoy it. It is a day of gratitude that is global.....
joey

food is like love...it should be entered into with abandon or not at all        Harriet Van Horne

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post #3 of 16

I just finished breaking down my turkey. The breast and legs are back in refrigeration, the rest of the carcass, wing tips, thigh bones, tail and such are cooking down for stock right now. I'll use some of the stock with stuffing and some for gravy probably. 

 

I'm also rendering the fat stripped from the cavity with which I'll make the roux for the gravy and saute the vegetables for the stuffing. 

 

Pies are done, the rolls will come in a bit and a cheesecake still to do this evening. 

Palace of the Brine -- "I hear the droning in the shrine of the sea monkeys." Saltair
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post #4 of 16

I deconstruct my birdie too and my stock, made from the carcass and wings, is turkey noodle soup for tonight's supper along with a salad (I picked the meat off for the soup) and then the rest I too will use for gravy and to moisten the Portuguese sausage (linguica) dressing casserole tomorrow.

post #5 of 16

We're going to a friends tomorrow and he's cooking his first turkey.  He calls me every evening for advice - LOL.  I'm bringing the stuffing - sourdough, corn bread, pork sausage, andouille, fennel, onion, celery, pecans, chestnut and I added a handful of craisins for a twist.  I'm also bringing the fixin's for corn and oyster pudding and a bag of stock for gravy.  I'll make the roux tomorrow morning or when I get there I haven't decided.

post #6 of 16

I'm going to a friend's. She's making the turkey, dressing, cranberry sauce and latkes.

 

Another friend is bringing more dressing and some chopped liver.

 

A third friend who is an excellent artisan bread baker will most likely bring a loaf.

 

I'm bringing petite peas with pancetta and shallots,(we're not keeping kosher, despite the appearance of latkes and chopped liver on the menu) roasted sweet potatoes with a bourbon-maple-coffee glaze and a Grand Marnier cake with chocolate chips and chocolate glaze.

 

Someone else is bringing a pumpkin something with whipped cream.

 

I'm not sure who else is coming and what they might be bringing.

 

I just reminded myself to go buy a bottle of wine. I forgot to grab one when I made a liquor run earlier today for a bottle of bourbon to replace the one I will finish off making the sweet potato glaze. Can't run out of that!

post #7 of 16
Long but funny. Boy could the perfectionist in me relate!!!!



Thanksgiving Letter to the Family 2013

Dear Family,

I’m not dead yet. Thanksgiving is still important to me. If being in my Last Will and Testament is important to you, then you might consider being with me for my favorite holiday.

Dinner is at 2:00. Not 2:15. Not 2:05. Two. Arrive late and you get what’s left over.

Last year, that moron Marshall fried a turkey in one of those contraptions and practically burned the deck off the house. This year, the only peanut oil used to make the meal will be from the secret scoop of peanut butter I add to the carrot soup.

Jonathan, your last new wife was an idiot. You don’t arrive at someone’s house on Thanksgiving needing to use the oven and the stove. Honest to God, I thought you might have learned after two wives – date them longer and save us all the agony of another divorce.

Now, the house rules are slightly different this year because I have decided that 47% of you don’t know how to take care of nice things. Paper plates and red Solo cups might be bad for the environment, but I’ll be gone soon and that will be your problem to deal with.

House Rules:

1. The University of Texas no longer plays Texas A&M. The television stays off during the meal.

2. The ”no cans for kids” rule still exists. We are using 2 liter bottles because your children still open a third can before finishing the first two. Parents can fill a child’s cup when it is empty. All of the cups have names on them and I’ll be paying close attention to refills.

3. Cloe, last year we were at Trudy’s house and I looked the other way when your Jell-O salad showed up. This year, if Jell-O salad comes in the front door it will go right back out the back door with the garbage. Save yourself some time, honey. You’ve never been a good cook and you shouldn’t bring something that wiggles more than you. Buy something from the HEB bakery.

4. Grandmothers give grandchildren cookies and candy. That is a fact of life. Your children can eat healthy at your home. At my home, they can eat whatever they like as long as they finish it.

5. I cook with bacon and bacon grease. That’s nothing new. Your being a vegetarian doesn’t change the fact that stuffing without bacon is like egg salad without eggs. Even the green bean casserole has a little bacon grease in it. That’s why it tastes so good. Not eating bacon is just not natural. And as far as being healthy… look at me. I’ve outlived almost everyone I know.

6. Salad at Thanksgiving is a waste of space.

7. I do not like cell phones. Leave them in the car.

8. I do not like video cameras. There will be 32 people here. I am sure you can capture lots of memories without the camera pointed at me.

9. Being a mother means you have to actually pay attention to the kids. I have nice things and I don’t put them away just because company is coming over. Mary, watch your kids and I’ll watch my things.

10. Rhonda, a cat that requires a shot twice a day is a cat that has lived too many lives. I think staying home to care for the cat is your way of letting me know that I have lived too many lives too. I can live with that.
Can you?

11. Words mean things. I say what I mean. Let me repeat: You don’t need to bring anything means you don’t need to bring anything. And if I did tell you to bring something, bring it in the quantity I said. Really. This doesn’t have to be difficult.

12. Dominos and cards are better than anything that requires a battery or an on/off switch. That was true when you were kids and it’s true now that you have kids.

13. Showing up for Thanksgiving guarantees presents at Christmas. Not showing up guarantees a card that may or may not be signed.

The election is over so I’ll watch what I say and you will do the same. If we all stick to that, we’ll have a good time. If not, I’ll still have a good time but it will be at your expense.

In memory of your Grandfather, the back fridge will be filled with beer. Drink until it is gone. I prefer wine anyway. But one from each family needs to be the designated driver.
I mean it really!

food is like love...it should be entered into with abandon or not at all        Harriet Van Horne

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post #9 of 16

Joey im sure 100% of the things you said is true , and you were being serious , but i still laughed A LOT. 

 

Have a great thanksgiving :D ( that goes for everyone). 

Today you are You, that is truer than true. There is no one alive who is Youer than You.

Dr.Seuss

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post #10 of 16
These leftover ideas are some new twists worth looking at.

http://gothamist.com/2013/11/26/thanksgiving_leftovers.php

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/1100281
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post #11 of 16
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Originally Posted by durangojo View Post

Long but funny. Boy could the perfectionist in me relate!!!!



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Dinner is at 2:00. Not 2:15. Not 2:05. Two. Arrive late and you get what’s left over.

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House Rules:


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4. Grandmothers give grandchildren cookies and candy. That is a fact of life. Your children can eat healthy at your home. At my home, they can eat whatever they like as long as they finish it.
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9. Being a mother means you have to actually pay attention to the kids. I have nice things and I don’t put them away just because company is coming over. Mary, watch your kids and I’ll watch my things.
6. Salad at Thanksgiving is a waste of space.
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11. Words mean things. I say what I mean. Let me repeat: You don’t need to bring anything means you don’t need to bring anything. And if I did tell you to bring something, bring it in the quantity I said. Really. This doesn’t have to be difficult.

 

 

 

Haha, these are funny.  Are they your rules?  I just have to comment because some of these are so outrageous in other cultures they'd never fly!

 

Dinner at 2:00.  Greek people are late, many cultures have this lateness thing.  It's like a contest to see who can arrive the latest.  If I'm serving dinner at 7pm I actually tell everyone that it is 6pm.  It's the only way to ensure that I don't lose my mind trying to keep things warm.  So basically I lie, and even so someone is always late past 7pm.  This would drive you crazy with these rules but really, all you have to do is lie and save yourself the heartache.

 

Candy - don't you know that people don't give candy anymore?  My son has never even had candy.  He's had a few bites of dark chocolate and he loves it, it's a special treat and we don't keep any visible around the house.  We throw away all our Halloween candy.  Sugar affects kids, it's a leading problem that can and does exacerbate attention deficit, and is quite addictive too which can make it a very hard habit to break later down the line.  If Mommy says no candy then Mommy's word is final.  I don't understand why Grandmothers feel they are higher on the totem pole.  And don't get me started on "finishing everything on your plate."  I'm not even slightly tolerant of this mindset.  I never want anyone telling me I have to finish everything on my plate.  I eat as much as I can and don't feel the slightest bit guilty about leaving a bit of food. I'm not a proud member of the Clean Your Plate Club and will not force my kid to be either.  I don't buy into the whole starving african kids thing because the remnants on my plate will never reach them anyway.  I'm pretty good about gauging how much food I think I can eat but sometimes I'm wrong, and there's no need for anyone to develop a food disorder in order to clean their plate. Besides, giving candy to a child seems pleasurable but then again, Grandmas aren't the ones that have to then settle that kid for bed do they?  Which brings me to the next point:

 

Mother's job of looking after kid amongst "nice things" - Having a toddler is surely a very hard thing as anyone can imagine.  Holiday parties are by far the worst most horrible place I go with my son.  Because nobody but me has the responsibility of looking after him, especially if he's being given candy and bouncing off the walls.  My entire holiday consists of trying to subdue my kid from touching all of grandma's nice (heavy and dangerous) knick knacks.  Don't touch this, don't touch that, leave that wine glass alone, come sit for dinner, I have to sit in the kitchen to feed him because there's no place for a 2yr old at the table, no highchair in sight which means he's a flight risk.  2hrs at grandma's house for Tday and I'm still recovering.  Thanks Grandma for all your help.  I don't even get to eat really.

 

Salad - it's like my favorite part of the meal!  I don't eat the goopy stuffing that comes out of the bird's butt, nor do I eat much of the dry turkey.  I live on ham and salad.

 

In my culture, showing up to any dinner party empty handed is quite rude.  Everybody says "please don't bring anything" and then if you show up with nothing you're a miser.  Dessert, wine, a loaf of bread, a salad, a side dish even if it mirrors another side dish are not only welcome, but expected.

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post #12 of 16
God no kk...they are certainly not my rules....someone else's that are making the email circuit that i got a kick out of and thought to share...it is meant to provide some levity, and i believe a parody of sorts. I can't help envisioning SNL's 'church lady' as the original sender! I don't have any rules other than just play nice and have a great time ..... However i will add this.....let grandparents be grandparents...let them spoil their grandchildren...it's their role in life now, and part of that role is to 'allow the unallowable'......thank god for them!!! it's part of why children love their grandpas and grandmas sooo much. Don't we all have those memories and miss those special times? As for kids.....let them run around....its what kids do....for sure not for them to be underfoot or bratty or tantrum-y but just to enjoy life as a kid....considering the big picture it's such a short time. too short really. It all adds to the chaotic symphony of a family holiday gathering. It is so much more than just the food on the table. if i had to choose one describable word it would be CONNECTION.
Fwiw i didn't get to eat either, but for totally different reasons. Being in the restaurant/hospitality business, I am just one of the many minions(indentured servants)who work holidays to serve and cater to people and families to help them have a special relaxed time....i am actually fine with it for the most part as i enjoy my role. nothing screams love like a family gathering so i do miss that part of the ball of wax, and it is getting tougher as the years whisk by but......so it goes!

joey
not to worry, i did get a turkey sandwich the next day which was just heavenly and perfect! smile.gif
Edited by durangojo - 12/2/13 at 8:11pm

food is like love...it should be entered into with abandon or not at all        Harriet Van Horne

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post #13 of 16
Laughing my behind off. So funny, so true!
post #14 of 16
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My mil chases my son around with forkfuls of food, cookies and slices of bread. If my son tells me he doesn't want to eat I'm ok with it but for her it's not ok unless he's either chewing or swallowing food at all times. We don't let her babysit much.

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post #15 of 16

never mind

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post #16 of 16

I won't even get into what holidays with my family are like... picture to much beer and wine, wayyyyyy to much food, when we all get together at once it is now up to 50 people with all the great grand-kids... picture chaos, arguments, flying food(how else do you pass a dinner roll 40 feet?)

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