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post #31 of 41

well if its REALLY what you are after, be prepared to suffer some more!!!

you really have to work your *ss off to get somewhere at all.

I have been there done that…….did all the nasty chores others did not want to do.

with eyes and ears open……saw a lot, heard a lot…..learned a lot.

when you start out, it is mainly  those dishwashing, cleanup, prepwork stuff…….from there, you move on.

you have to keep motivating yourself and believe in your talents, if you have any at all.

have a goal and go for it, whatever it might be.

post #32 of 41

Devin,

 

I really appreciate your coming back to this thread and talking a bit more.

 

I really think you should work in restaurant (not a fast food chain--nothing against them, but everything you do was planned out by head office looong before you even started) to get a real feel for the hospitality business.  Because if you do, you will realize several things.

 

1) Cooking is a stepping stone to other things.  You will find very few  45 yr old cooks--people who just cook.  There are a zillion 45 yr old Chefs, whose main responsibility is to ensure the kitchen is running profitably, a  zillion owners, or  F + B mngrs, all  who needed the cooking experience to get to the next level; sales reps, banqueting managers, and many other careers that required cooking as a stepping stone.  But you will find very few older cooks.

 

2) The hospitality business is cyclical.  For instance, right now it's christmas season, so anyone in the industry is NOT working a 40 hr week, but a lot longer, and they know that they will have to work those hours because by mid January and especially February, senior staff will be lucky to get 24 hr weeks, junior staff lucky to get 1 or 2 shifts/week, and mngmt will be still working 60-80 hr weeks to cover all the hourly staff positions untill it gets busy again.  Feast or famine, it's never just right.

 

I'm not saying that every kitchen is like that, but it is typical for most a'la carte places. Hospitals and care facilities are very steady, and you can learn a lot and have good shifts and bennies in those places, but there is a caveat:  Food is not a money generator for hospitals and care facilities, and labour is one of the highest costs when calculating the price per meal for such institutions. When cost cutting pograms are put in place in such institutions, it's always the kitchen that takes a direct hit to the crotch.

 

Hope this helps

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post #33 of 41

Devin, they have all talked about food service mostly, now lets talk aircraft maintenance.  You are 20 years old I think?  Which service were you in that had 2 years contracts?  Do you have an A and P license, if not you will probably have to go to school for this to get on with most companies to draw the good wages.  Military training does not always go along with civilian jobs and 2 years in the military isn't a lot for experience in the field.  So it looks like education or flipping burgers.  Not sure what McDonald's pay their managers, but it would be some where in line with what you want to make later on.  Military use to give you benefits for education, not sure now, you might want to check that out with the VA.  Good luck either way, and thank you for your service.

post #34 of 41
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Originally Posted by Devin Ancrum View Post, I want to be able to make somewhere around 25-30k a year before i'm 27 ; the reason i mentioned  having a 9-5 is because I don't want  to have to make that goal by forcing myself to work more.

Are there casinos where you live? If so, you should be able to hit your financial goal working for them and hours would be roughly 40 hours a week because they usually operate 24/7 so they have 3 different shifts to cover a 24 hour period. Overtime does happen, but it is the exception rather than the rule. Downside being creative input is negligible but if you get in the right kitchen there are opportunities to learn and expand your skills. They offer benefits and job security and are usually looking for help so you might check them out as a possibility.

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post #35 of 41

This thread was good for a laugh.

post #36 of 41
Some of you are soooo rude " lol". Stuck in your narrow minded views of life and work.
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Some of you are soooo rude " lol". Stuck in your narrow minded views of life and work.


Ah geez... If you don't like the way someone has posted, can you address them personally?  This "some of you" or "Some people" business is really childish.

 

Thanks.

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post #38 of 41
Ya well, I cant figure how to quote properly sorry Im on a phone. I was refering to the above post saying this thread is good for a laugh. I find that rude and not constructive to the OP. Many other comments imo are rude as well but Im not going to keep quoting. Fellow got some help here but mostly negativity in my opinion from the forum. Yes, In judging the forum as a whole atm like a child. Im new here too. Some ^^ need to get of their horse. Education or flip burgers ! Lol again. Anyway I don't wanna pick any more fights than I did already so I'll stop there.

Ok wait I re read your feast or famine part. LOL. 80 hr weeks in January F that noise lol.
And im on vacation atm. Every business is different stop pigeon holing an entire industry
.... Tell him managers work 80 hrs a week and stay away from chains ahahahah. Make me work 42 hrs this week Im doing 38 next. Salaries Suck imo.
post #39 of 41

Can you clarify?  You're in a management position but are paid on an hourly basis?

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post #40 of 41
Are you talking to me? Can you address me personally please? Jk. Ye Im management and no not hourly. If you have to do more than your contract one week make up for it another is all I meant.
post #41 of 41

Thank you for the clarification.  Yes, sometimes salaries do suck....

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