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post #31 of 41
Oh, the groove does fish hooks and it can do scissors.
post #32 of 41
Thread Starter 

it's only 4 pieces of long stone though lol (unless your unlucky enough to only get the ceramic stones like one person said they did), for way less than that price i could get a wet stone with 2 sides and since you said you went through a few rods why do that when a stone will last you for years to come without having to buy another one? the reviews said they ain't what they used to be and the rods wobble and i read some of the comments on the YT video too it said the diamond rods coast almost as much as the whole thing lol so i'll pass on this, here in the UK things are hard money wise as everything is coasting more and more with no sign of a pay rise other than a few quid twice a year.

 

Every time we get a "pay rise" though they put prices up again, supermarkets are super bad for it and energy companies, supermarkets up prices up on certain items every single holiday, pancake day, st patricks day, summer holidays, ramadam etc... and they rarely put the prices back down, so in terms of how pricey this is going to be to keep it id say it's not worth it for me. I like the concept though to make faster and easier but these days it coasts more to get faster and easier because they know people want fast.


Edited by emmbai90 - 3/19/14 at 6:39pm
post #33 of 41
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it's only 4 pieces of long stone though lol (unless your unlucky enough to only get the ceramic stones like one person said they did), for way less than that price i could get a wet stone with 2 sides and since you said you went through a few rods why do that when a stone will last you for years to come without having to buy another one? the reviews said they ain't what they used to be and the rods wobble and i read some of the comments on the YT video too it said the diamond rods coast almost as much as the whole thing lol so i'll pass on this, here in the UK things are hard money wise as everything is coasting more and more with no sign of a pay rise other than a few quid twice a year.



 



Every time we get a "pay rise" though they put prices up again, supermarkets are super bad for it and energy companies, supermarkets up prices up on certain items every single holiday, pancake day, st patricks day, summer holidays, ramadam etc... and they rarely put the prices back down, so in terms of how pricey this is going to be to keep it id say it's not worth it for me. I like the concept though to make faster and easier but these days it coasts more to get faster and easier because they know people want fast.


 



Only trying to help not sell anything.
Like I've said, I've tried just about everything, I sharpen for a living and have learned from the ground up.

Go with your gut.
post #34 of 41
Thread Starter 

Cool maybe when i have more money i will try this, hopefully i'm lucky to get a job through an apprenticeship but it's hard to even keep jobs here these days as they are only mostly hiring for just jobs they need you to do and then let you off, i think you get to keep jobs you got through an apprentice though. For now though a whetstone and some paper for leveling it off is the safest option money wise i'm sure it will do for the time being as i have to learn to not cut myself with a super sharp knife yet aha best keep it to stone sharpness.

post #35 of 41
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Not sure which stone to get though, i found a top of the range stone that is 1000 - 3000 grit it's a combination stone but there has to be good ones cheaper than £30 :\ i read a few threads but you guys type a lot lol far more than i do most of the time it's a lot to take in reading everything, i read a good start whetstone is a king stone but they are more pricey than this one which is £30 http://www.amazon.co.uk/Grade-Double-Sided-Whetstone-1000/dp/B0099N3CYA/ref=cm_cr_pr_pb_t i think for a newbie a combination stone would be a good stone to start off on but i found a cheaper version of that rod set you showed me http://www.amazon.co.uk/Deluxe-Turnbox-Crock-Sharpener-Medium/dp/B000B8FW0E/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1395296008&sr=8-5&keywords=sharpening+rod my dad suggested rods too briefly so i might consider it, this one is more sturdy than the one you showed me and reviews say it still sharpens good, £30 is my max price range.Maybe rods would be better for me because of all the stuff about angles i'm terrible at maths i mean i've got better at basic thanks to Khan Academy but generally trying to tell the difference between angles for me is difficult lol, yet i'm amazing at it while playing zombie shoot ups lol i'm weird. Then again how would you even buy the mods? i see no way to buy more to put inside there but i bet it's £15 for 2 new ones.


Edited by emmbai90 - 3/19/14 at 11:31pm
post #36 of 41
As you seem to be located in UK have a look at
edenwebshops.co.uk
especially their Naniwas and Choseras, much less expensive than in the States.
My own favourites are the Chosera 800 and 2k.
post #37 of 41
Thread Starter 

Hmm... theirs no combo stone at 800 - 2k at the moment mostly just single stones, i also read it's better to get single stones than combo stones for different levels of sharpening like a lower grit stone for really blunt knives then the higher up you go the more it cleans it up and sharpens them nicely, says the same on in the description for the Naniwa stones, i think i will wait until i've started an apprenticeship and got some more money coming in as they might also provide me with knives and sharpen them for me, so i'll buy a few during it.

post #38 of 41
I should have mentioned that the Chosera grit system does not exactly correspond to the JIS: Choseras are bit finer than one would expect.
Edited by Benuser - 3/22/14 at 9:00pm
post #39 of 41
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3200rpm? Good luck!

great point

Guess could slow it down, but every method I know of its more expensive than the actual sander lol

 

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post #40 of 41
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Not sure which stone to get though, i found a top of the range stone that is 1000 - 3000 grit it's a combination stone but there has to be good ones cheaper than £30 :\ i read a few threads but you guys type a lot lol far more than i do most of the time it's a lot to take in reading everything, i read a good start whetstone is a king stone but they are more pricey than this one which is £30 http://www.amazon.co.uk/Grade-Double-Sided-Whetstone-1000/dp/B0099N3CYA/ref=cm_cr_pr_pb_t i think for a newbie a combination stone would be a good stone to start off on but i found a cheaper version of that rod set you showed me http://www.amazon.co.uk/Deluxe-Turnbox-Crock-Sharpener-Medium/dp/B000B8FW0E/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1395296008&sr=8-5&keywords=sharpening+rod my dad suggested rods too briefly so i might consider it, this one is more sturdy than the one you showed me and reviews say it still sharpens good, £30 is my max price range.Maybe rods would be better for me because of all the stuff about angles i'm terrible at maths i mean i've got better at basic thanks to Khan Academy but generally trying to tell the difference between angles for me is difficult lol, yet i'm amazing at it while playing zombie shoot ups lol i'm weird. Then again how would you even buy the mods? i see no way to buy more to put inside there but i bet it's £15 for 2 new ones.

OK so your looking for rock bottom cost. That's no problem, or surprise (most of my Brit friends have been known to be called cheapskates, and even the wealthy ones so I'll cut you some slack here lol) and there are options.

I have used e syringe everything from garage sale oil stones, nikken or other sand paper over marble or hardwood blocks, and even the bottom rough area on cups for cheap knives in a pinch.

They all work to varying degrees, and results do change with the actual knife, but all get the results of a sharp edge even if all are not truly sharpening.

I do keep a ultra fine (about 3000 grit) peeve of sandpaper on a hardwood block in my drawer as I find beget for touch up than honing rods. Works great

 

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post #41 of 41

yes, them grinders will ruin your knifes ,if you got a good set of new knifes they have the correct bevels on the blade, and all they need is a few passes on a hand held diamond knife sharpener, i have knives i had for 40 years and never sharpend them on a grinding stone

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