Originally Posted by IceMan
If Starbucks sucked ... nobody would go there to spend their money.
I said to the OP if he doesn't have the kind of secret formula Starbucks does have he would not succeed, because, YES, they profit and you can't compete with that.They are not a coffee shop, they are as you said a multi billion dollar company. I don't think the OP has in mind opening a new SB franchise, he wondered about a coffee shop.
And what is your logic to say because people spend money on Starbucks it doesn't suck? Because millions of people do that? Does quantity now accounts for quality?
And it happens that half of America and people who endorse your quality analysis is OVERWEIGHT, struggling with health issues related to bad diet, eating tons of sugar and fat on anything (perhaps even you?)
Just because YOU may not like it, doesn't at all make it a bad product. Are YOU a multi-billionaire?!? NO, I do think so.
I don't like to play semantics though I think it is the case here to clear things up.To be a bad product for coffee appreciators is different than a puke inducing product for the masses. SB clearly IS NOT puke inducing, but that doesn't make it a good product for people who REALLY like coffee.
And I have no idea what my income and savings would have to do with the matter... should I have a multi billion dollar coffee shop to make my opinion relevant? Do you?
I'm pretty sure you can find high end coffee shops in Chicago where the owners are not multi billionaires nor are starving business men, but are quite successful and real in the coffee business.
Obviously there are enough people with opinions different from yours, willing to go into a Starbucks location somewhere in the world to spend their money.
Indeed, as well as there are enough people in America to get Donald Trump to the elections =/ You know? the relation of quality and quantity...
If you can make a cup of coffee so much better ... please do. I'll be happier than happy to come in, spend some money, and help support your soon-to-be multi-billion-dollar company. Until then ... grow up.
Anyone willing to afford a espresso set up at home, purchase high quality coffee beans and willing to learn how to brew coffee CAN do that for you. The question is... do you have the palate to judge that? I don't think so...... Most importantly, are you the kind of person willing to pay $6 or more for a single Guatemalan espresso shot? Clearly not. Does the high end coffee industry struggle to survive charging those fares? Absolutely not.
And sorry if I sound not grown up enough to you but I never meant Starbucks would not be profitable and successful, I was just addressing your lack of background to judge coffee quality as it really annoys the hell out of me people with bogus opinions - and bad taste - pointing things they have no clue about. Optionally.. YOU could grow a decent taste on coffee and get rid of that Nespresso machine I'm pretty sure you have there in your place lol