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post #31 of 42
Wendy, I'm glad to hear I'm not alone with all our regional problems. That's why I've seriously cut back on the variety and am only going with what grows well and what the wildlife seems to leave alone.

This weekend I'll be putting in my peppers and tomatoes and the rest of my herb garden. The spinach is coming up nicely and the zucchini has just broken ground.
post #32 of 42
Thread Starter 
W.DeBord,

Great of you to join the thread!

You can always move your asparagus plants closer together.

Here is a good document on Growing Asparagus.

That's a good point about the extension service. It's staffed by volunteers. I suppose it's like any place you go to, everyone is different but you're definitely at a good source.

Deer and tulips? Sounds like you found out the hard way, LOL! You know, there are critters that eat the bulbs too.

It's always disappointing to hear about a gardener who is giving up because of pests, disease. I often feel that knowledge will help and encourage you not to give up. As I posted above, I highly recommend the book Great Garden Companions: A Companion-Planting System for a Beautiful, Chemical-Free Vegetable Garden. I like the idea of a biodiverse garden (similar to nature) to prevent pests and disease).

There are ways to sterilize your soil to help rid it of disease, etc.

I also encourage you to browse the GardenWeb Forums, especially Vegetable Gardening and Organic Gardening for solutions to any problems you may have. For example, just do a search there on any of the topics you mentioned and you'll have plenty of information to browse.

:)
post #33 of 42
Your definately not alone Thull! Once upon a time our area was great farm land. But the way the developers strip the top soil, rrrrrrrrrrrrrrr! Then they sell half of it -and we're lucky if they give us 9" of top soil over our clay.

When our house was built I was pretty dumb (well I'm not that much smarter now but...) I saw how they left all the junk in everyones yard from construction. They didn't clean up extra stone around our driveways and sidewalks. They left all their garbage, then the landscape crews come in and it's too much work to do it right. They use machines, not shovels to grade our yards........

I've spent alot of time redoing my yard. If only I had known then to pick up all the junk, scoop all the extra rock!!!!!!!!!! They didn't use any herbisides to kill off all the bad grasses (not weeds, thick blade grasses which don't die with-out roundup). They just layed the sod ontop of everything. Everything grew right thru the sod.

I also thought I was smart and planted grass seed in my backyard. But for 13 years now it hasn't worked. There's too many underlaying seeds that come up hardier then my grass. I've done everything imaginable thru out the years. Unlike many, I do have a very good green thumb. My spouse and I have even buildt a starter growing room. I've started the hardest perenials from seed with-out probelms.........but my yard, it's a daily fight!

I've gotten advice from the best lawn professionals at golf courses (I worked at shoreacres, ranked #67 in the world) over the years. I just don't have the patients to fight this any more. We killed off our whole backyard with roundup and either late today or monday the landscapers are coming to rototill my yard and then were going with sod. I've learned my lessons, I fight every day to keep my lawn nice.

My neighbors have given up. They have those fat blade grasses that choke out blue grass and invade your whole yard. By myself I replaced the side yard next to my garage (with all the neighbors watching thinking I'm a wild women). I'm actually winning now. The second I see a fat blade grass in my lawn I paint on round up and kill it.

I sort of think you were wise buying baged soil. Hopefully it was sterilized. I've had a "yard" of soil dropped off before, it was just loaded with weed seeds.......just made everything that much harder. If I could afford it I'd buy the best soil I could from the start (in bags) too!

I'd do raised beds with baged soil just like you.
post #34 of 42
Oops, mudbug you snuck in a post while I was whineing. I have done a little companion planting. It becomes a problem in your garden when the companion is something your not going to eat and it's taking space away form something you want to grow.

We do our best to keep things natural and not turn to pestisides or such. But honestly, that route hasen't worked for me. Eventually I have to spray or dust the garden. It gets about as bad as you can imagine.

After I get my new lawn in I will spend sometime looking at the sites you've reccomended. I do want to sterilize the area I've kept for our garden patch before planting. Everyyear I tell myself I'm going to do that, but then it means putting off planting until later in the season.....and well we get anxious to plant.

Well time to get outside and finish my work.
post #35 of 42
Thread Starter 
Hi W.DeBord,

Depends on what you're planting... Potatoes and beans make excellent companion plants. Dill and culinary herbs are wonderful and I'm sure you use those...

I actually find you can plant more within a smaller space because you don't plant in rows (at least I don't). It's a tradition that just says "Thanksgiving Dinner Here" to pests.

As for sterilizing the garden, it does not have to interfere with your growing season necessarily. The key is knowledge and preplanning to prevent you from having to be a daily garden watch dog.

Click here and scroll down to find a multitude of information resources for your area.
post #36 of 42
Major WOW, thanks for showing me those sites mudbug!!!!!! First rainy day and I've got alot of reading to do!


I thought to sterilize your garden you cover it with black plastic and when it's hot enough outside that bakes your soil? My biggest problem is being inpatient and getting overly excited to start planting asap.

I'm so thrilled, they (landscapers) came today and rototilled my whole backyard. It's this lovely blank palate now and I can't wait to start working in it. I won't have nearly the garden size I've had before.......but the more I think about it your right.........I've been broadcasting thanksgiving feast too long. I've also planted so much that it was becoming alot of work just keeping up with harvesting. It's time to plant only what we need......my neighbors always talk about wanting to garden......I guess I'm setting them free to do it themselves now.

Mudbug have you come across any photo laden sites showing realistic home (like small normal sized suburban yards) landscaping? I'm not a naturalist nor a cutzie gardener........I'm very design oriented with a heavy accent on hardscaping, hilling and using hardy plants that have year round interest. I lean toward drought hardy perenials with strong foliage interest with minimum maintance. What I like is more often seen in comercial landscaping projects then home projects. I've looked around on the web and haven't come across anything remotely close to what I'm looking for. Any leads would be greatly appreciated!?
post #37 of 42
Mudbug, the asparagus thread you linked is great! That's way more info. then I've ever found. Alot of it is completely new knowledge and different then what I "learned" when I first read up on it. Very cool, and very helpful!!

Thank-you!
post #38 of 42
Thread Starter 
W.DeBord,

My pleasure. Regarding one of your earlier posts... where you bought soil by the "yard". Don't assume that if you buy that way that it's all bad. The quality can vary greatly depending on who the provider is. I believe it is more cost effective than buying bags in the long run. Do your research if you ever decide to go that route again. Call local landscapers and nurseries and ask who they would recommend.

kthull & W.DeBord,
Buying bagged soil? Why not make your own mix by getting the ingredients separately? You'll know exactly what is in it and my guess is it will be less expensive.

Here is a great primer on making your own soil mix.

W.DeBord,
You don't have to sterilize your soil in the spring. You can do it in late summer when you're done harvesting your veggies. Two layers of clear plastic works better than black plastic because it heats the soil up quicker. It is called solar-sterilization. You could always consider planting part of the area and solar-sterilize just part of the garden. The rewards would be well worth the effort in the long run because your plants would be healthier. Or do it in the early spring before your planting dates.

Landscaping sources? Try posting the same question at the Landscape Design Forum. They should be able to recommend websites or books for you.

:)
post #39 of 42
Thanks for the soil mixing information mudbug. I've been amending the bagged soil with peat and compost, just not the vermiculite. I don't know why I always chose the bagged route, but it seemed to make sense in terms of only getting as much as I needed when I had the time to put it into my beds.
post #40 of 42
Thread Starter 
kthull,

You're welcome. I hope you find the information useful. You may find this informative for inexpensive sources of vermiculite as well.

:)
post #41 of 42
My 2nd year with my garden and I'm so pleased to see my chives return and full of chive blossoms. These will have to go into a salad soon. I have enough italian parsely returning to feed the entire town and thyme, lemon thyme, rosemary, tarragon all survived a tough winter and look great. I planted arugula, several lettuces, leeks, beets, radishes, carrots and cilantro and all are doing well. I've heard cilantro gets a bit leggy but so far I've had success and it's bushy just like the parsley. First year on roma and 100s, peas, yellow peppers and cayenne. Stawberries are back in the 2nd year with a vengence!! Last year I maybe picked 5 total and now we're going to have a great crop.

Major problem though. My husband and I just bought a new home down the street and I want to transplant as much as my garden as possible. I'll probably be ready to do so in July but I don't know if that's wise for the plants. Anyone have any luck with transplanting gardens?
post #42 of 42
Thread Starter 
catciao,

July would probably be one of the most stressful times you could be moving plants because of the heat. Part of the reason for transplanting at suggested times is to get the plant's roots established in during cooler weather before the heat sets in. If it is at all possible for you to start transplanting sooner, That would be your best bet.

If you absolutely have to transplant in July, do so in the evening. Dig them out and plant them in as soon as possible, the quicker the better. Try not to disturb the root systems and keep the surrounding soil of the roots intact.

Water them immediately. This way, once they've been moved, they can rest for a few hours before the sun comes out and the roots can have some time to adjust. If you do it during broad daylight, the plant is photosynthesizing and disturbing the roots would not be beneficial for the plant.

Also, if you can at all plant before it is going to rain, that is the best way. The good thing is that is sounds like you don't have to travel far.
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