[chefteldanielle]

I have just received the date of my final (11/13) and reality is setting in..
AAAAAAAH....

The blackbox from ****.
Ok I need ideas.
Iam sure I will be fine.. I just need some reassuring here.
Iam sure and look at this thread and smack myself.
Blackbox

I need ideas.. I can go shopping for half an hour for additional
ingredients to make all the courses complete

Ingredients given for my appetizer posibilities may possibly be..
1 shrimp or scallop, crabmeat or prosciutto
I need some simple recipes..

For my main entree I may get chickenbreast, or salmon or pork loin or entrecote...(beef)
Any ideas..
Iam sure I will be fine but additional ideas from you always makes it better
Thank you in advance

Danielle

 

[w.debord]

I've never gone to culinary school but I'm wondering if it's right for us to help you? Even though you do have to do the actual cooking the mental aspect of this is a real part of our jobs and it's important that you can put together ingredients and menus.

Honestly, wouldn't it be better if you planned this with-out us? I'd think it would be fine bouncing some ideas around tweaking your thoughts, but too much help doesn't seem right either?

 

[kuan]

Don't freak out, and you don't really have to plan. There are only a few natural paths you can head with what's given. In otherwords, don't deep fry the beef and don't make a sausage out of the chicken breast. Just remember your fundamentals, don't try and make a scallop and foie gras terrine and you'll be fine.

Kuan

 

[cape chef]

Very sound advise givin,
Daneille as much as I would like to help you,I totally agree with WDebord,
This excersise is as much mental as physical.

Like kuan said,Use commen sence with your approach and don't try to over work the food.
Good luck
cc:chef:

 

[anneke]

Danielle,
I'm sure a 4.0 student like you will be fine.
You have a couple of weekends ahead of you. The best thing you can do for yourself right now is not to memorise recipes but rather calm yourself down. Practice is the best way to do that. WHy don't you ask your hubby or your friends to come over for dinner, and ask them to bring the mystery ingredients. (I suggest you give them a budget first!) You'll see that when you practice in a more relaxed environment, the ingredients actually speak to you, and you have to do very little other than listening to what they want you to do with them - so to speak.
So work on trusting yourself, ok?

 

[layjo]

Well! Not really out of situation. I think everyone comes to these boards to get advice, and to give advice. Being that a student is in school and is learning through the daily assignments and task, they generate ideas and skills that have to be mesured in exams at the end of a certain term. So from what you have already learned I'm pretty sure you can go through your exam smoothly. You have picked up some ideas here and there, just as we all have. But you have to show the instructor what knowledge and skills you have gained, which will be observed by the outcome of your practical exam. Listen to some of the guidlines from the previous post(s). Avoid repeating flavors/ingredients in a meal, unless they are necessary. Try to stay in the boundries of the particular cuisine as much as possible! I wish you great success!

 

[chefteldanielle]

I was looking over my books last night and just got afeeling of anxiety over me.. The threated final exam.. Iam quite ok at what I do.. I just feel the pressure..
Ok some ideas..
If I get salmon I will bake it (KISS) either make a fish fumee supreme sauce.. Now do I serve the sauce under or nappe'?
Pork loin I would saute' and serve with sauce Robert
Chicken (pounded) either panfry with a cheese sauce (bechamel sauce) or baked with a supreme sauce.
Entrecote (grilled ) with sauce Robert

My appetizers are freaky.. What do I do with Prosciutto other than wrapping it around pears and serving it with blue cheese. and
I have a great scallop recipe .
I will be fine..
Thank you for your confidence as always..
I just cannot believe it's almost over..
Danielle

 

[chadwic]

ok...from what i have read about you chefteldanielle you should do fine...if you are freaking out over this blackbox test... i would hate to see you in a real kitchen....there are far more pressures to deal with once you are cooking in a fine establishment...what are you going to do if the chef tell you to think of a special or an amuse..you cant jump on cheftalk on your lunch break and ask for help.... :bounce: (this guy is cool had to throw him in here) as soon as the chef says give me an app or give me an entree are you going to say hold on for a sec cape chef hasnt gotten back to me....... im sure cape chef could think something up.. ya it is nice to get opinions but your whole deal is weird... it seems you need constant reassurance that you can cook.... you have a 4.0 awsome you made deans list.... but can you cook!!! that all thatmatters i went to school with people who got 3.8-4.0's but i found it was them who cant cook.....can you realy cook??

 

[greg]

Chadwic, I sure hope you had no ill intent when posting that response, but, let me tell you, it sure does come across that way. If you (or anybody, for that matter) are posting about something you feel strongly about, as a moderator I can't stress enough the importance of thinking before you type and re-reading before you submit your post. Also, regarding the 4.0 students who "can't cook": some people are book smart, some people are street smart and some are both. I also got 3.8 to 4.0's in culinary school. Does this mean that I can't cook? The thing is, grades in culinary school usually include a practical exam. Taking that into account, I'd say that given Danielle's 4.0 average, she most certainly can cook. The reasons for this board's existence are for the exchange of ideas (for both pro and non-pro alike) and support between it's members. Support does not incude saying things like "I'd hate to see you in a real kitchen" just because someone has some anxiety over something. As you grow and develop in your career, hopefully you'll see your responsibility to help new talent in their journey and have the wisdom (as W. DeBord and Cape Chef have in this instance) to hold back in a supportive way at times.

 

[zorba the greek]

Well spoken Greg!

Using nicknames doesn't mean that we just type whatever comes to our mind.
When I was young we used to address to ladies politely , even when they drove us crazy, something that was not so rare, allow me to say.

Dear Danielle I am sure you will do great. You have earned your marks and yes, they prove that you know to cook.
Let us know what happened!

 

[isa]

We all know you can cook and you are creative in the kitchen. You're just nervous about your exam and sometime that's enough to forget just about everything and your own name.


When I need ideas, I usually head to the bookstore. Just sitting down with a few books and magazines is usually enough to inspire me. The idea is not to copy someone else recipes but to look at them for inspiration. Try it Danielle it might work for you too.



Best of luck!

 

[cape chef]

I guess you can say I am a little disapointed in the tone of chadwics post.

oneupmanship I feel not does't belong on cheftalk.
As you can see by the responce to daneilles thread that we are a community that supports and fosters our members.

As a proffessinal Chef and member of cheftalk I feel it is my duty to represent my choosen field with respect and dignity.
I know when I need help,support or ideas I come to cheftalk.

We may not agree on everything,However the language is respectful.
Daneille,When you are in a high end kitchen and the chef asked for some ideas I will always be happy to help
cc

 

[chadwic]

my intent was not to imply that she cant cook....read over her post and please tel me it doent sound like she A.bragging about her 4.0 or B. consintly looking for reassurance.... and Zorba the Greek you said " when i was young i treated ladies politily....ar eyou saying you treat ladies different in the kitchen...because im sure chefteldanielle would agree that she woud want to be treated just like anyone of your cooks, anyone of them!!..if you do that than you are simply making a fool out of yourself... the message i was trying to get across is ya if you are stuck for a dish...do as ISA does...read some book get inspired....its nice to ask other people if they thing a couple flavors blend but we all know cape chef, ISA and many many more members of cheftalk can cook the whole purpose of a black box is for you to do what you can do not others.......
:bounce:

 

[kylew]

I'm betting danielle can cook better than chadwic can spell

Sorry, couldn't resist

 

[kimmie]

OUCH!!!

 

[cape chef]

Before this thread heads in the wrong direction I think it would be prudent to turn back to the origanal topic.

daneille,

I believe you have the aptitude to develope thse dishes without our direct insight into the make up of the plated courses.
However, Do not feel at all held back to post as many questions as you deem nessasery for your growth.
cc
PS KylwW, Watch the spell thing

 

[kylew]

I will work on my behavior

 

[w.debord]

My quick two cents. It's obvious Danielle is a perfectionist, which is a wonderful driving quality that will indeed help to make her a much better chef (and person) because she cares and gives it her all! It's hard for others who don't have this quality to understand the perfectionists' "buzz words".


ANYWAY, I thought the idea to practice with the same 'blackbox' technique at home is a TERRIFIC idea. Actually you do this all the time Danielle at home making dinner...have you hubby pick up a couple gourmet ingred. and cook away. It should help you relax and get comfortable with this test.

 

[chadwic]

never once did i say or doupt chefteldanielle couldnt cook.....though it seems like its not her that is going to be taking the test....and Kyle im sorry if i dont take the grammer of my post more serious.....and to danielle cooking better than me... maybe she can maybe she cant...i just dont need to go into chef talk and somehow throw in My 4.0 gpa in every post.. or mention the chefs that i have worked for and with......i could but i know i can cook...i dont think i am great or good for that matter.....i still have tons to learn as do we all but i am confident in my cooking ability......gotta run...italk to you later:bounce:

 

[greg]

Danielle's 4.0 is an accomplishment that she is rightfully proud of, just as anybody can rightfully take pride in any of their accomplishments; no more, no less. Chadwic, I suggest you read your private messages (found by clicking on "user cp" at the top of the main page) if you haven't already done so. If I find any more posts on this matter that are made by anyone just trying to be right and not on-topic, trying to contribute supportively, I will forward a copy to Nicko and then delete said post. Let's all move on now, shall we?