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Hi all,

So I was looking at sharpening stones for my future kitchen knives (I decide to get the Tojiro DP 210mm). At home I have two whetstones. One is (https://tinyurl.com/yb22869h) which is of 400/1000 grits (or so it says...) and the other one of unknown grits but feels much coarser than the 400/1000 grits. I am looking to buy a higher grit whetstone, and I came upon two pretty similar stones.

King KW-65 and King KDS
https://tinyurl.com/y7ye2lax (KW65)
https://tinyurl.com/y6usfv9w (KDS)

They are of the same grit specifications and made by King. Aside from the size difference, I don't know what are different between these two stones (save for that the cheap one comes with a base and the more expensive one doesn't).

Has anyone used both stones? Is there a significant reason to choose the KDS over KW65? (For more than double the price)

Thanks in advance!
Xavier
 

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I believe I've used similar to the first stone, not bad. The king combo is relatively slow and dishes fast, the other is likely no better. CKTG has the Iminishi 1K/6K (full size stone unlike yours), best combo for the money. But you could just go for a regular fine stone like the arishiyama/kitiyama, a lot of companies carry one or the other, differing in name only. Suehiro Rika is another popular one, but not quite as fine.

What are you sharpening, that might matter.
 

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I believe I've used similar to the first stone, not bad. The king combo is relatively slow and dishes fast, the other is likely no better. CKTG has the Iminishi 1K/6K (full size stone unlike yours), best combo for the money. But you could just go for a regular fine stone like the arishiyama/kitiyama, a lot of companies carry one or the other, differing in name only. Suehiro Rika is another popular one, but not quite as fine.

What are you sharpening, that might matter.
Hi, thanks for the reply! I am planning on using it on a messemeister santoku (7 inch ish), a Tojiro DP 210mm gyuto, and a cleaver made of some stainless steel (about 8 inch)
 

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The Tojiro could make good use of a fine stone, for the other 2 of cheaper stainless the fine stone would be mainly for deburring. Another stone to consider that is available on amazon is the Shapton Pro/Kuromaku.

Reading about the stone you bought it sounds like crap. So get the King 300 for a course stone (for thinning and repairs) and the Iminishi so you have a decent 1K and 6K. You'll see a world of difference with just these inexpensive stones.
 
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